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Boullier said the lack of pace was confusing considering the drivers "don't report anything wrong" with the car "Obviously it's a bit of a surprise, based on the pace we had in FP3," Boullier told Sky Sports F1 immediately after Q2. "There is a need for a big investigation. "On his last lap Fernando found some pace in sector two and sector three, which would have helped earlier. We need to find out what's going on. "The balance is fine, obviously there's a lack of grip, that's my conclusion for the poor performance, but they don't report anything wrong." https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/135237/mclaren-astonished-by-poor-pace-in-bahrain

Boullier said the lack of pace was confusing considering the drivers "don't report anything wrong" with the car



"Obviously it's a bit of a surprise, based on the pace we had in FP3," Boullier told Sky Sports F1 immediately after Q2. "There is a need for a big investigation.



"On his last lap Fernando found some pace in sector two and sector three, which would have helped earlier. We need to find out what's going on.



"The balance is fine, obviously there's a lack of grip, that's my conclusion for the poor performance, but they don't report anything wrong."

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/135237/mclaren-astonished-by-poor-pace-in-bahrain
问题1:缺乏抓地力,轮胎窗口没设置好,一圈没能让轮胎热起来进入工作温度。其他原因在紧急调查中了。
问题1:缺乏抓地力,轮胎窗口没设置好,一圈没能让轮胎热起来进入工作温度。其他原因在紧急调查中了。
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雷诺引擎还是太保守了。
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还是调教问题
还是调教问题
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紧急会议有没有什么消息
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周六报告:

2018 Bahrain Grand Prix - Qualifying

“We all expected more from today”




Bahrain International Circuit, Saturday 7 April

FP3 took place in bright sunshine and with ambient air temperatures averaging 30 degrees Celsius. Both drivers completed their scheduled run plans but neither was completely happy with their pace. Stoffel, in particular, reported unsettled handling, which, in addition to traffic, meant he wasn’t able to get everything out of the car he’d hoped. Fernando finished the session in 10th position, and Stoffel in 17th.

Qualifying was the tough challenge the team expected, and neither driver felt able to maximise their car’s performance. Both Fernando and Stoffel narrowly squeezed through into Q2 but were unable to make any further progress up the grid, and will line up for tomorrow’s race in 13th and 14th respectively.

 

FERNANDO ALONSO, McLaren Driver

 FP3 10th  1m31.445s (+1.577s)13 laps  
 Q115th1m30.530s (on Options) 
 Q213th overall 1m30.212s (on Options) 
 Q3 -  

“Today wasn’t great – our qualifying performance was worse than we expected. It was okay in free practice, but then in qualifying we lost speed and we were struggling from Q1.

“Our one-lap performance is not yet optimised – we cannot extract the maximum from the tyres over one lap, and we need to find the reasons why.

“Our race pace has been better than our pace over a single lap so far, and yesterday during the long runs on old tyres we felt quite competitive. This morning, too, on a hot track the car felt good and we seem to take good care of the rear tyres, which is going to be an advantage in the race. But, obviously our starting position is compromised already and we are quite far back, so we’ll see what we can do.

“Having said that, not making it into Q3 isn’t the end of the world. We didn’t make it there in Australia either, but on Sunday we both scored points, so hopefully we can repeat that here. This is a demanding circuit, tyre degradation is high and reliability is a concern, so we need to stay focussed and take advantage of the strategy. The free choice of tyres now gives us some advantage and we’ll try to maximise that. The race is tomorrow and that’s when the points are given.”

 

STOFFEL VANDOORNE, McLaren Driver

 FP3 17th  1m31.860s (+1.992s) 14 laps  
 Q114th  1m30.479s (on Options) 
 Q214th overall 1m30.525s (on Options) 
 Q3 -  

“We all expected a bit more from today. We had good sessions yesterday in FP1 and FP2 and I was feeling very confident in the car. We know we’re in this very compact midfield where every tenth is very important for us and makes all the difference, so we need to keep improving.

“With a step forward today we could have fought for Q3, but we knew it was going to be tough. In these harsh conditions things can change quickly and it’s really unfortunate we couldn’t get there.

“We didn’t make the step forward that we needed to today, so we need to keep pushing and there’s a lot of work to do. But, I think we can race tomorrow. We had good pace during the long runs on Friday and the balance was pretty good. This is a circuit where strategy and tyres are quite complex, so there are some possibilities. We need to be opportunistic and, like in Melbourne, try to benefit from other people’s mistakes.

“We have a free choice of tyres tomorrow, and I think around here it could be quite interesting. Tyre degradation has been key at this track in the past and there are a number of different strategies possible. We’ve seen some good races here and that’s what we’re going after tomorrow.”

 

ERIC BOULLIER, McLaren Racing Director

“Although qualifying was the tough challenge that we predicted in what is an extremely tight midfield pack, our performance today was certainly below our expectations. Both drivers didn’t feel as comfortable or confident in the car as they were yesterday, which is something we need to analyse overnight with our engineers.

“We recognise that the teams around us often make a performance step on Saturday and this is something we must address. However, we know that the race pace of our package tends to be more positive than our speed over one lap, and with a free choice of tyres we believe we can fight for points on Sunday.

“Now, we’ll work hard to analyse all the data from today and put everything we can into setting up the cars, so that we can move further up the field in tomorrow’s race.”


报告没有给出排位慢的原因,但显然排位没能象练习赛那样发挥出赛车性能。

要我猜的话,这可能意味着工作窗口较窄,外界的条件的变化对发挥赛车性能有较大的制约。

好消息是周五的长距显示速度和轮胎-特别是后轮的衰退还不错,有捡皮夹的资本;

不过我觉得这只算半个好消息吧--因为你并不知道别队的赛车长距状态如何,竞争对手也能照顾好轮胎,那其实就没有好消息了。。。



周六报告:

2018 Bahrain Grand Prix - Qualifying

“We all expected more from today”




Bahrain International Circuit, Saturday 7 April

FP3 took place in bright sunshine and with ambient air temperatures averaging 30 degrees Celsius. Both drivers completed their scheduled run plans but neither was completely happy with their pace. Stoffel, in particular, reported unsettled handling, which, in addition to traffic, meant he wasn’t able to get everything out of the car he’d hoped. Fernando finished the session in 10th position, and Stoffel in 17th.

Qualifying was the tough challenge the team expected, and neither driver felt able to maximise their car’s performance. Both Fernando and Stoffel narrowly squeezed through into Q2 but were unable to make any further progress up the grid, and will line up for tomorrow’s race in 13th and 14th respectively.

 

FERNANDO ALONSO, McLaren Driver

 FP3 10th  1m31.445s (+1.577s)13 laps  
 Q115th1m30.530s (on Options) 
 Q213th overall 1m30.212s (on Options) 
 Q3 -  

“Today wasn’t great – our qualifying performance was worse than we expected. It was okay in free practice, but then in qualifying we lost speed and we were struggling from Q1.

“Our one-lap performance is not yet optimised – we cannot extract the maximum from the tyres over one lap, and we need to find the reasons why.

“Our race pace has been better than our pace over a single lap so far, and yesterday during the long runs on old tyres we felt quite competitive. This morning, too, on a hot track the car felt good and we seem to take good care of the rear tyres, which is going to be an advantage in the race. But, obviously our starting position is compromised already and we are quite far back, so we’ll see what we can do.

“Having said that, not making it into Q3 isn’t the end of the world. We didn’t make it there in Australia either, but on Sunday we both scored points, so hopefully we can repeat that here. This is a demanding circuit, tyre degradation is high and reliability is a concern, so we need to stay focussed and take advantage of the strategy. The free choice of tyres now gives us some advantage and we’ll try to maximise that. The race is tomorrow and that’s when the points are given.”

 

STOFFEL VANDOORNE, McLaren Driver

 FP3 17th  1m31.860s (+1.992s) 14 laps  
 Q114th  1m30.479s (on Options) 
 Q214th overall 1m30.525s (on Options) 
 Q3 -  

“We all expected a bit more from today. We had good sessions yesterday in FP1 and FP2 and I was feeling very confident in the car. We know we’re in this very compact midfield where every tenth is very important for us and makes all the difference, so we need to keep improving.

“With a step forward today we could have fought for Q3, but we knew it was going to be tough. In these harsh conditions things can change quickly and it’s really unfortunate we couldn’t get there.

“We didn’t make the step forward that we needed to today, so we need to keep pushing and there’s a lot of work to do. But, I think we can race tomorrow. We had good pace during the long runs on Friday and the balance was pretty good. This is a circuit where strategy and tyres are quite complex, so there are some possibilities. We need to be opportunistic and, like in Melbourne, try to benefit from other people’s mistakes.

“We have a free choice of tyres tomorrow, and I think around here it could be quite interesting. Tyre degradation has been key at this track in the past and there are a number of different strategies possible. We’ve seen some good races here and that’s what we’re going after tomorrow.”

 

ERIC BOULLIER, McLaren Racing Director

“Although qualifying was the tough challenge that we predicted in what is an extremely tight midfield pack, our performance today was certainly below our expectations. Both drivers didn’t feel as comfortable or confident in the car as they were yesterday, which is something we need to analyse overnight with our engineers.

“We recognise that the teams around us often make a performance step on Saturday and this is something we must address. However, we know that the race pace of our package tends to be more positive than our speed over one lap, and with a free choice of tyres we believe we can fight for points on Sunday.

“Now, we’ll work hard to analyse all the data from today and put everything we can into setting up the cars, so that we can move further up the field in tomorrow’s race.”


报告没有给出排位慢的原因,但显然排位没能象练习赛那样发挥出赛车性能。

要我猜的话,这可能意味着工作窗口较窄,外界的条件的变化对发挥赛车性能有较大的制约。

好消息是周五的长距显示速度和轮胎-特别是后轮的衰退还不错,有捡皮夹的资本;

不过我觉得这只算半个好消息吧--因为你并不知道别队的赛车长距状态如何,竞争对手也能照顾好轮胎,那其实就没有好消息了。。。



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起起伏伏是正常的, 只有解决了问题和作出正确的提升,才能真正的进步.
对于小牛的进步, 不要惊讶,如果HAAS能够用法拉利的东西,小红牛也可以用红牛的东西,而且可以很快就知道本田发动机 试不试和红牛的赛车,以及对明年红牛的影响.
本田与雷诺之争,很快就会由红牛作出的选择来体现.
起起伏伏是正常的, 只有解决了问题和作出正确的提升,才能真正的进步.
对于小牛的进步, 不要惊讶,如果HAAS能够用法拉利的东西,小红牛也可以用红牛的东西,而且可以很快就知道本田发动机 试不试和红牛的赛车,以及对明年红牛的影响.
本田与雷诺之争,很快就会由红牛作出的选择来体现.
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讲真,迈凯伦再水也不应该是巴林排位赛的这个位置。私以为,迈队的车要么是阻力太大,要么就是散热问题,引擎不敢开太猛,再要么就是以上两种可能都有。如果只是调教问题,不应该两台车都这么慢,而且貌似车手反馈操控都没啥大问题。
讲真,迈凯伦再水也不应该是巴林排位赛的这个位置。私以为,迈队的车要么是阻力太大,要么就是散热问题,引擎不敢开太猛,再要么就是以上两种可能都有。如果只是调教问题,不应该两台车都这么慢,而且貌似车手反馈操控都没啥大问题。
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S3 的问题比较严重地拖后腿,关注S3 应该是问题地症结。
S3 的问题比较严重地拖后腿,关注S3 应该是问题地症结。
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天哪,这S3时候的引擎输出受限制了?
天哪,这S3时候的引擎输出受限制了?
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周六的小结:https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2018/bahrain-grand-prix/2018-bahrain-grand-prix-qualifying/



基本大意:

阿隆索:赛车的调校没有能兼顾好排位赛单圈的表现,但整体上从周五的长距离看来,赛车的速度还是很不错的,正赛可以任意选择轮胎起跑在这条对于赛车要求很高以及轮胎磨损严重的赛道上是个不错的优势,在墨尔本我们也没能进入Q3,但不也拿分了,所以保持这个优势与等着瞧。



范多恩:对于排位赛的失望多少是有的,但,正赛中轮胎的退化情况与策略的使用会是关键,目标放在正赛长距离表现与最大化自由选择轮胎的优势。



布利尔:排位赛的成绩失望是很巨大的,昨天已经发现了这个问题,但,没能解决好,我们得研究排位赛单圈成绩的问题,赛车在长距离上的表现远比排位赛状态还要好,所以,看看正赛表现。



个人读后结论:与之前的感觉很接近——车队全力在解决重载油长距离的轮胎磨损上而牺牲(忽视)在排位赛单圈速度。正赛保持好自由练习赛展现的速度,之后就是等着捡皮夹。

这站期望:两车尽可能拿到最多的积分。

PS. 布利尔这段话些许透露了点问题所在:Both drivers didn’t feel as comfortable or confident in the car as they were yesterday, which is something we need to analyse overnight with our engineers.

没出意外应该真的是调校上的问题。S1与 S3的高速急刹入弯这点上应该是没找到点,也就是没能让车手敢用更高的速度冲刺。
周六的小结:https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2018/bahrain-grand-prix/2018-bahrain-grand-prix-qualifying/



基本大意:

阿隆索:赛车的调校没有能兼顾好排位赛单圈的表现,但整体上从周五的长距离看来,赛车的速度还是很不错的,正赛可以任意选择轮胎起跑在这条对于赛车要求很高以及轮胎磨损严重的赛道上是个不错的优势,在墨尔本我们也没能进入Q3,但不也拿分了,所以保持这个优势与等着瞧。



范多恩:对于排位赛的失望多少是有的,但,正赛中轮胎的退化情况与策略的使用会是关键,目标放在正赛长距离表现与最大化自由选择轮胎的优势。



布利尔:排位赛的成绩失望是很巨大的,昨天已经发现了这个问题,但,没能解决好,我们得研究排位赛单圈成绩的问题,赛车在长距离上的表现远比排位赛状态还要好,所以,看看正赛表现。



个人读后结论:与之前的感觉很接近——车队全力在解决重载油长距离的轮胎磨损上而牺牲(忽视)在排位赛单圈速度。正赛保持好自由练习赛展现的速度,之后就是等着捡皮夹。

这站期望:两车尽可能拿到最多的积分。

PS. 布利尔这段话些许透露了点问题所在:Both drivers didn’t feel as comfortable or confident in the car as they were yesterday, which is something we need to analyse overnight with our engineers.

没出意外应该真的是调校上的问题。S1与 S3的高速急刹入弯这点上应该是没找到点,也就是没能让车手敢用更高的速度冲刺。
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周六的小结:https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2018/bahrain-grand-prix/2018-bahrain-grand-prix-qualifying/ 基本大意: 阿隆索:赛车的调校没有能兼顾好排位赛单圈的表现,但整体上从周五的长距离看来,赛车的速度还是很不错的,正赛可以任意选择轮胎起跑在这条对于赛车要求很高以及轮胎磨损严重的赛道上是个不错的优势,在墨尔本我们也没能进入Q3,但不也拿分了,所以保持这个优势与等着瞧。 范多恩:对于排位赛的失望多少是有的,但,正赛中轮胎的退化情况与策略的使用会是关键,目标放在正赛长距离表现与最大化自由选择轮胎的优势。 布利尔:排位赛的成绩失望是很巨大的,昨天已经发现了这个问题,但,没能解决好,我们得研究排位赛单圈成绩的问题,赛车在长距离上的表现远比排位赛状态还要好,所以,看看正赛表现。 个人读后结论:与之前的感觉很接近——车队全力在解决重载油长距离的轮胎磨损上而牺牲(忽视)在排位赛单圈速度。正赛保持好自由练习赛展现的速度,之后就是等着捡皮夹。
这站期望:两车尽可能拿到最多的积分。
PS. 布利尔这段话些许透露了点问题所在:Both drivers didn’t feel as comfortable or confident in the car as they were yesterday, which is something we need to analyse overnight with our engineers.
没出意外应该真的是调校上的问题。S1与 S3的高速急刹入弯这点上应该是没找到点,也就是没能让车手敢用更高的速度冲刺。
周六的小结:https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2018/bahrain-grand-prix/2018-bahrain-grand-prix-qualifying/



基本大意:

阿隆索:赛车的调校没有能兼顾好排位赛单圈的表现,但整体上从周五的长距离看来,赛车的速度还是很不错的,正赛可以任意选择轮胎起跑在这条对于赛车要求很高以及轮胎磨损严重的赛道上是个不错的优势,在墨尔本我们也没能进入Q3,但不也拿分了,所以保持这个优势与等着瞧。



范多恩:对于排位赛的失望多少是有的,但,正赛中轮胎的退化情况与策略的使用会是关键,目标放在正赛长距离表现与最大化自由选择轮胎的优势。



布利尔:排位赛的成绩失望是很巨大的,昨天已经发现了这个问题,但,没能解决好,我们得研究排位赛单圈成绩的问题,赛车在长距离上的表现远比排位赛状态还要好,所以,看看正赛表现。



个人读后结论:与之前的感觉很接近——车队全力在解决重载油长距离的轮胎磨损上而牺牲(忽视)在排位赛单圈速度。正赛保持好自由练习赛展现的速度,之后就是等着捡皮夹。

这站期望:两车尽可能拿到最多的积分。

PS. 布利尔这段话些许透露了点问题所在:Both drivers didn’t feel as comfortable or confident in the car as they were yesterday, which is something we need to analyse overnight with our engineers.

没出意外应该真的是调校上的问题。S1与 S3的高速急刹入弯这点上应该是没找到点,也就是没能让车手敢用更高的速度冲刺。
如果是正赛型赛车倒是强了,可排位赛就这个速度我怎么都不觉得到了正赛能快到哪去。
如果是正赛型赛车倒是强了,可排位赛就这个速度我怎么都不觉得到了正赛能快到哪去。
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如果是正赛型赛车倒是强了,可排位赛就这个速度我怎么都不觉得到了正赛能快到哪去。
如果是正赛型赛车倒是强了,可排位赛就这个速度我怎么都不觉得到了正赛能快到哪去。
看排位赛S1 与S3 的输出功率那张图,加之看一练时赛车底盘不断磨出火花,基本可以判断车队一开始就一直焦灼在解决重载油与长距离的问题,而忽视了短距离轻载油的设置。

至于正赛是不是能如所愿,那就等待看看。


抛开前面三大车队,中游集团在这站的轮胎不耐磨起泡能不能很有效的解决会是个关键。

愿望理想还是可以有的,万一实现了呢?
看排位赛S1 与S3 的输出功率那张图,加之看一练时赛车底盘不断磨出火花,基本可以判断车队一开始就一直焦灼在解决重载油与长距离的问题,而忽视了短距离轻载油的设置。

至于正赛是不是能如所愿,那就等待看看。


抛开前面三大车队,中游集团在这站的轮胎不耐磨起泡能不能很有效的解决会是个关键。

愿望理想还是可以有的,万一实现了呢?
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周六报告:

2018 Bahrain Grand Prix - Qualifying

“We all expected more from today”

Bahrain International Circuit, Saturday 7 April

FP3 took place in bright sunshine and with ambient air temperatures averaging 30 degrees Celsius. Both drivers completed their scheduled run plans but neither was completely happy with their pace. Stoffel, in particular, reported unsettled handling, which, in addition to traffic, meant he wasn’t able to get everything out of the car he’d hoped. Fernando finished the session in 10th position, and Stoffel in 17th.

Qualifying was the tough challenge the team expected, and neither driver felt able to maximise their car’s performance. Both Fernando and Stoffel narrowly squeezed through into Q2 but were unable to make any further progress up the grid, and will line up for tomorrow’s race in 13th and 14th respectively.

 

FERNANDO ALONSO, McLaren Driver

 FP3 10th  1m31.445s (+1.577s)13 laps  
 Q115th1m30.530s (on Options) 
 Q213th overall 1m30.212s (on Options) 
 Q3 -  

“Today wasn’t great – our qualifying performance was worse than we expected. It was okay in free practice, but then in qualifying we lost speed and we were struggling from Q1.

“Our one-lap performance is not yet optimised – we cannot extract the maximum from the tyres over one lap, and we need to find the reasons why.

“Our race pace has been better than our pace over a single lap so far, and yesterday during the long runs on old tyres we felt quite competitive. This morning, too, on a hot track the car felt good and we seem to take good care of the rear tyres, which is going to be an advantage in the race. But, obviously our starting position is compromised already and we are quite far back, so we’ll see what we can do.

“Having said that, not making it into Q3 isn’t the end of the world. We didn’t make it there in Australia either, but on Sunday we both scored points, so hopefully we can repeat that here. This is a demanding circuit, tyre degradation is high and reliability is a concern, so we need to stay focussed and take advantage of the strategy. The free choice of tyres now gives us some advantage and we’ll try to maximise that. The race is tomorrow and that’s when the points are given.”

 

STOFFEL VANDOORNE, McLaren Driver

 FP3 17th  1m31.860s (+1.992s) 14 laps  
 Q114th  1m30.479s (on Options) 
 Q214th overall 1m30.525s (on Options) 
 Q3 -  

“We all expected a bit more from today. We had good sessions yesterday in FP1 and FP2 and I was feeling very confident in the car. We know we’re in this very compact midfield where every tenth is very important for us and makes all the difference, so we need to keep improving.

“With a step forward today we could have fought for Q3, but we knew it was going to be tough. In these harsh conditions things can change quickly and it’s really unfortunate we couldn’t get there.

“We didn’t make the step forward that we needed to today, so we need to keep pushing and there’s a lot of work to do. But, I think we can race tomorrow. We had good pace during the long runs on Friday and the balance was pretty good. This is a circuit where strategy and tyres are quite complex, so there are some possibilities. We need to be opportunistic and, like in Melbourne, try to benefit from other people’s mistakes.

“We have a free choice of tyres tomorrow, and I think around here it could be quite interesting. Tyre degradation has been key at this track in the past and there are a number of different strategies possible. We’ve seen some good races here and that’s what we’re going after tomorrow.”

 

ERIC BOULLIER, McLaren Racing Director

“Although qualifying was the tough challenge that we predicted in what is an extremely tight midfield pack, our performance today was certainly below our expectations. Both drivers didn’t feel as comfortable or confident in the car as they were yesterday, which is something we need to analyse overnight with our engineers.

“We recognise that the teams around us often make a performance step on Saturday and this is something we must address. However, we know that the race pace of our package tends to be more positive than our speed over one lap, and with a free choice of tyres we believe we can fight for points on Sunday.

“Now, we’ll work hard to analyse all the data from today and put everything we can into setting up the cars, so that we can move further up the field in tomorrow’s race.”

报告没有给出排位慢的原因,但显然排位没能象练习赛那样发挥出赛车性能。

要我猜的话,这可能意味着工作窗口较窄,外界的条件的变化对发挥赛车性能有较大的制约。

好消息是周五的长距显示速度和轮胎-特别是后轮的衰退还不错,有捡皮夹的资本;

不过我觉得这只算半个好消息吧--因为你并不知道别队的赛车长距状态如何,竞争对手也能照顾好轮胎,那其实就没有好消息了。。。

周六报告:

2018 Bahrain Grand Prix - Qualifying

“We all expected more from today”




Bahrain International Circuit, Saturday 7 April

FP3 took place in bright sunshine and with ambient air temperatures averaging 30 degrees Celsius. Both drivers completed their scheduled run plans but neither was completely happy with their pace. Stoffel, in particular, reported unsettled handling, which, in addition to traffic, meant he wasn’t able to get everything out of the car he’d hoped. Fernando finished the session in 10th position, and Stoffel in 17th.

Qualifying was the tough challenge the team expected, and neither driver felt able to maximise their car’s performance. Both Fernando and Stoffel narrowly squeezed through into Q2 but were unable to make any further progress up the grid, and will line up for tomorrow’s race in 13th and 14th respectively.

 

FERNANDO ALONSO, McLaren Driver

 FP3 10th  1m31.445s (+1.577s)13 laps  
 Q115th1m30.530s (on Options) 
 Q213th overall 1m30.212s (on Options) 
 Q3 -  

“Today wasn’t great – our qualifying performance was worse than we expected. It was okay in free practice, but then in qualifying we lost speed and we were struggling from Q1.

“Our one-lap performance is not yet optimised – we cannot extract the maximum from the tyres over one lap, and we need to find the reasons why.

“Our race pace has been better than our pace over a single lap so far, and yesterday during the long runs on old tyres we felt quite competitive. This morning, too, on a hot track the car felt good and we seem to take good care of the rear tyres, which is going to be an advantage in the race. But, obviously our starting position is compromised already and we are quite far back, so we’ll see what we can do.

“Having said that, not making it into Q3 isn’t the end of the world. We didn’t make it there in Australia either, but on Sunday we both scored points, so hopefully we can repeat that here. This is a demanding circuit, tyre degradation is high and reliability is a concern, so we need to stay focussed and take advantage of the strategy. The free choice of tyres now gives us some advantage and we’ll try to maximise that. The race is tomorrow and that’s when the points are given.”

 

STOFFEL VANDOORNE, McLaren Driver

 FP3 17th  1m31.860s (+1.992s) 14 laps  
 Q114th  1m30.479s (on Options) 
 Q214th overall 1m30.525s (on Options) 
 Q3 -  

“We all expected a bit more from today. We had good sessions yesterday in FP1 and FP2 and I was feeling very confident in the car. We know we’re in this very compact midfield where every tenth is very important for us and makes all the difference, so we need to keep improving.

“With a step forward today we could have fought for Q3, but we knew it was going to be tough. In these harsh conditions things can change quickly and it’s really unfortunate we couldn’t get there.

“We didn’t make the step forward that we needed to today, so we need to keep pushing and there’s a lot of work to do. But, I think we can race tomorrow. We had good pace during the long runs on Friday and the balance was pretty good. This is a circuit where strategy and tyres are quite complex, so there are some possibilities. We need to be opportunistic and, like in Melbourne, try to benefit from other people’s mistakes.

“We have a free choice of tyres tomorrow, and I think around here it could be quite interesting. Tyre degradation has been key at this track in the past and there are a number of different strategies possible. We’ve seen some good races here and that’s what we’re going after tomorrow.”

 

ERIC BOULLIER, McLaren Racing Director

“Although qualifying was the tough challenge that we predicted in what is an extremely tight midfield pack, our performance today was certainly below our expectations. Both drivers didn’t feel as comfortable or confident in the car as they were yesterday, which is something we need to analyse overnight with our engineers.

“We recognise that the teams around us often make a performance step on Saturday and this is something we must address. However, we know that the race pace of our package tends to be more positive than our speed over one lap, and with a free choice of tyres we believe we can fight for points on Sunday.

“Now, we’ll work hard to analyse all the data from today and put everything we can into setting up the cars, so that we can move further up the field in tomorrow’s race.”


报告没有给出排位慢的原因,但显然排位没能象练习赛那样发挥出赛车性能。

要我猜的话,这可能意味着工作窗口较窄,外界的条件的变化对发挥赛车性能有较大的制约。

好消息是周五的长距显示速度和轮胎-特别是后轮的衰退还不错,有捡皮夹的资本;

不过我觉得这只算半个好消息吧--因为你并不知道别队的赛车长距状态如何,竞争对手也能照顾好轮胎,那其实就没有好消息了。。。



看看正赛的表现,这站的问题基本可以定性是调校问题了。
看看正赛的表现,这站的问题基本可以定性是调校问题了。
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Formula 1: McLaren 'astonished' by poor pae in Bahrain qualifying
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/135237/mclaren-astonished-by-poor-pace-in-bahrain

大意: 车队也被排位赛的速度给整晕了,问题是在自由练习赛中车手也没有反应任何问题,目前已经让沃金开始仔细调查问题究竟出现在那儿? 整个赛车的平衡没问题,就是缺乏抓地力以至于速度出不来。

几个关键问题车队与车手都是一头雾水:
1、Boullier said the lack of pace was confusing considering the drivers "don't report anything wrong" with the car.
车队迷惑为什么车手完全没有任何关于赛车有问题的报告。
2、On his last lap Fernando found some pace in sector two and sector three, which would have helped earlier. We need to find out what's going on.
阿隆索在排位赛的最后一圈的S2与S3发现了一些事儿
3、The balance is fine, obviously there's a lack of grip, that's my conclusion for the poor performance, but they don't report anything wrong.
赛车平衡是好的,但就是没有了抓地力,这是现在的结论,但车手们没任何这方面的反馈。
Formula 1: McLaren 'astonished' by poor pae in Bahrain qualifying
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/135237/mclaren-astonished-by-poor-pace-in-bahrain

大意: 车队也被排位赛的速度给整晕了,问题是在自由练习赛中车手也没有反应任何问题,目前已经让沃金开始仔细调查问题究竟出现在那儿? 整个赛车的平衡没问题,就是缺乏抓地力以至于速度出不来。

几个关键问题车队与车手都是一头雾水:
1、Boullier said the lack of pace was confusing considering the drivers "don't report anything wrong" with the car.
车队迷惑为什么车手完全没有任何关于赛车有问题的报告。
2、On his last lap Fernando found some pace in sector two and sector three, which would have helped earlier. We need to find out what's going on.
阿隆索在排位赛的最后一圈的S2与S3发现了一些事儿
3、The balance is fine, obviously there's a lack of grip, that's my conclusion for the poor performance, but they don't report anything wrong.
赛车平衡是好的,但就是没有了抓地力,这是现在的结论,但车手们没任何这方面的反馈。
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哇靠神了啊,巴林迷之速度

言归正传,散热状况不出问题就不错了,乐观点第八,正常点在10-12名的位置。

回欧洲之前别想太多。
哇靠神了啊,巴林迷之速度

言归正传,散热状况不出问题就不错了,乐观点第八,正常点在10-12名的位置。

回欧洲之前别想太多。
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赛前目标红牛 这站目标算是达到了
赛前目标红牛 这站目标算是达到了
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不错,很好的结果,7-8,基本完成两车完赛,都拿到积分。

看看接下来的比赛能不能解决掉排位赛单圈速度问题。
不错,很好的结果,7-8,基本完成两车完赛,都拿到积分。

看看接下来的比赛能不能解决掉排位赛单圈速度问题。
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正赛速度还是可以的 白胎都跟的住雷诺。就是比较费胎感觉。
正赛速度还是可以的 白胎都跟的住雷诺。就是比较费胎感觉。
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引用 @stephen0925 发表的:
只看此人
不错,很好的结果,7-8,基本完成两车完赛,都拿到积分。 看看接下来的比赛能不能解决掉排位赛单圈速度问题。
不错,很好的结果,7-8,基本完成两车完赛,都拿到积分。

看看接下来的比赛能不能解决掉排位赛单圈速度问题。
下站剩余的升级部件也会上完了。看好上海站的表现。
下站剩余的升级部件也会上完了。看好上海站的表现。
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