[英超传声筒]MD2 比南极洲更为空旷的地方？当然是阿森纳的左路啊！由传声筒 发表在足球话题区 https://bbs.hupu.com/topic
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ON：阿森纳 0-2 切尔西
[–]【阿森纳】mthrs 684 points 12 hours ago
Watching Mari defend Lukaku was like watching someone trying to stop a train with Fiat Punto.
马里防守卢卡库，好比是有人试图用一辆菲亚特-朋多（紧凑型两厢车）去拦火车
[–]icestrok 163 points 11 hours ago
To be fair to him, he did try , Lukaku is just a beast
有一说一，马里努力过了，然而卢卡库完全就是一头猛兽
[–]【阿森纳】acaddgc 2152 points 12 hours ago
lukaku handled pablo mari like his personal offside line
卢卡库把马里玩儿成了自己的私人越位线。
[–]【切尔西】I_always_rated_them 583 points 11 hours ago
There was a pass upfield into him that was a little slow and I swear any other player would come towards it and collect, Lukaku just held Mari in place for ages and then turned with it and ran lol.
比赛时我车有一个往前场他那个方向的传球，球速不快，我敢说其他任何球员都能拍马赶到控住皮球，结果卢卡库愣是把马里压制了在原地，自己上前抢下皮球疾驰而去。
[–]【切尔西】paone0022 281 points 10 hours ago
We should just sign brawlers for strikers. Drogba and Costa worked where Torres and Morata didn't
我车的中锋位置就该签蛮牛型的。像德罗巴和科斯塔这样的特别好使，反观托雷斯和莫拉塔就水得不行
[–]【富勒姆】jordanhhh4 1511 points 12 hours ago
'it's hardly fair, Chelsea have an optical illusion on their shirt, the boys couldn't concentrate.' - Ty.
“太不公平了，切尔西球衣有光学干扰功能，我们的球员完全没法集中精神。”——Ty（AFTV枪迷频道常驻球迷）
[–]【切尔西】alx69 577 points 12 hours ago
Plus it rained
而且还在下雨
[–]【切尔西】I_always_rated_them 280 points 12 hours ago
Legit feel like the rain produced Arsenals best spell of the game
我咋感觉下雨那会儿反倒是他厂在本场比赛表现最好的阶段呢
[–]Hare712 141 points 12 hours ago
'Look at the bright side we are 6 points behind the leaders of the table'-Ty
“往好的一面看，我们现在离榜首也只差6分而已”——Ty
[–]【阿森纳】PeakSkinner 890 points 12 hours ago
Looking forward to our 2-0 defeat to City next.
坐等下一场2-0输给曼城。
[–]【阿森纳】cw757_ 803 points 12 hours ago
Bit optimistic
才2-0，哥们你真乐观
[–]【切尔西】Sektsioon 473 points 12 hours ago*
City are way more ruthless than us, we were clearly happy with the 2-0 and didn’t try too much in the 2nd half. Had a couple of good chances, Leno made a couple of great saves, but otherwise we were just cruising. City won’t be cruising up 2-0 lmao. If they get 2 as quickly as we did, it could get very ugly.
曼城比我车可凶残多了，我车能拿个2-0就满心欢喜，下半场也收着在踢。我们有过几次良机，莱诺也贡献了不少精彩扑救，但总的来说我们还是见好就收的。换了曼城2-0领先，他们可不会鸣金收兵的。如果他们像我们一样早早打进两球，估计你厂是躲不掉一场腥风血雨的。
[–]【阿森纳】AZ_76 363 points 12 hours ago
Pep doesn't like to embarrass Arteta, it'll probably be 1 or 2 nil
瓜帅不会难为阿尔特塔的，1-0或者2-0就差不多了
[–]coronnial 133 points 12 hours ago
Hope is a good thing
有希望是好事
[–]【阿森纳】flyingghost 84 points 11 hours ago
Or maybe Pep wants Arteta back as his assistant and beat us 4 or 5 nil.
又或者瓜帅想让阿尔特塔回去给他继续当助教，于是灌我厂一个4-0或5-0。
[–]【马竞】LilHalwaPoori 178 points 12 hours ago
Pep always relaxes after 1-2 goals against arteta..
瓜帅对阵阿尔特塔时，通常都是打进1-2个球就松开油门了……
[–]【尤文图斯】SamX17 117 points 12 hours ago
It won't be 2-0
肯定不会是2-0
[–]【阿森纳】athul_17x 285 points 12 hours ago
City usually just score 2 in 10 minutes and then switch to training mode.
曼城一般都是10分钟内先下两城，然后切换为训练模式。
[–]【利物浦】Thesolly180 669 points 12 hours ago
Just that first half defensively was a mess for Arsenal. Lukaku’s movement has improved so much, but the way Arsenal handled it was awful early on. He was constantly allowed to drift off the shoulder and get the run on Holding. The midfield did nothing to stop balls between the lines into Lukaku’s feet either for him to hold up, which made things harder for the centre backs.
Probably the most worrying building up to the second goal was James constantly not being picked up and nothing really changed until he finally scored from it
阿森纳上半场的防守表现堪称灾难。卢卡库的跑位进步显著，但阿森纳应对他的方式一开始就够烂的。卢卡库在阿森纳后场根本如入无人之境，霍尔丁完全看不住他。枪手中场对皮球输送给卢卡库的通道完全不设防，对卢卡库持球也没有相应部署，这让他们的中后卫更加头大。
第二个进球的全过程中最让人忧心的地方在于，詹姆斯从头到尾都没有防守球员去跟，直到他最终进球时也是如此。
[–]Guinasaur 520 points 12 hours ago*
Chelsea's offensive shape makes it absolutely impossible. Same thing happened against Palace last week and we saw it in both Chelsea's goals today. Chelsea uses every inch of the pitch.
If Arsenal defends narrow then they got overloaded on the flank by Chelsea's wing back, two midfielders and two 10s behind Lukaku (Mount/Havertz).
If they try and protect themselves by defending the flanks then Jorginho, Havertz, Mount, Kante/Kovacic/Rudiger are all capable of playing the ball into the center to Lukaku every time.
If Arsenal tries to protect against both by playing narrow _and_ tight and shifting their whole formation towards the flank when Chelsea moves it to that side, then all the ball players from Chelsea are really adept at switching play to the opposite wingback and you end up overloaded anyway. Chelsea moves the ball so quickly when switching play compared to other teams with similar possession styles, it's insane.
Tuchel has really built a system that's impossible to play against with the players Chelsea has. Having a player at 9 who can hold up play and get involved was their big missing piece. Now with their shape including Lukaku they have so many options to cut through the defense.
切尔西的进攻风格让阿森纳的防守徒劳无功。他们上周打水晶宫就是这样，今天的两粒进球同样如此。切尔西把球场的每一寸都利用到了极致。
如果阿森纳防线收窄，那么他们会在两翼被切尔西的边翼卫、两名中场和两名在卢卡库身后埋伏的10号位球员（芒特/哈弗茨）完全钳制。
如果阿森纳试图把防守重心放在边路，那么若日尼奥、哈弗茨、芒特、坎特/科瓦契奇/吕迪格就能轻易在中路组织进攻把球传递给卢卡库。
如果阿森纳试图在收窄防线的同时，一旦遇到切尔西走边路就切换阵型去防守翼位，那么切尔西所有的组织者都能熟练地改踢反向边翼卫角色，最后阿森纳依然会被拿捏得死死的。和其他有着类似控球风格的球队相比，切尔西在战术切换时的转移球速度实在是太快了，简直逆天。
图赫尔确实利用切尔西现有的阵容打造出了一个难以匹敌的体系。一个能拿住球、参与进攻组织的9号位球员曾是他车最大的短板。如今有了卢卡库，他们的进攻风格已经有了太多撕开对手防线的办法。
[–]【热刺】yesthepeople 229 points 11 hours ago
To be funny, Tuchel plays Football Manager out there. The speed of passing, the cross movements of all the players…there’s almost no stopping it. Chelsea’s only enemies are themselves.
好家伙，图赫尔搁这玩足球经理呢。传球的速度，全体球员的各种交叉跑位……就问你还有谁。切尔西唯一的对手就是他们自己。
[–]【利物浦】pure_black99 2478 points 12 hours ago
If Arsenal losing makes their fans so angry why don't they simply win their games instead?
如果阿森纳输球会让枪迷愤怒不已的话，那他们为啥不干脆赢下比赛呢？
[–]【阿森纳】Whyudodisbro 540 points 12 hours ago
I blame Rob Holding's haircut
都TM怪霍尔丁的破发型
[–]【阿森纳】Zizouhimovic 204 points 12 hours ago
"Just put the soccer balls in the net things" - Stan Kroenke probably
“把皮球搞进像网一样的那玩意儿里就好了呗”——斯坦-克伦克（设计台词）
[–]【美国】HomeStallone 276 points 12 hours ago
Why doesn't Hein, the tallest Arsenal player, not simply eat the Chelsea players?
为什么不干脆派阿森纳个子最高的球员，卡尔-海因（青年门将）直接把切尔西球员吃了？
[–]【切尔西】BumbotheCleric 2664 points 12 hours ago*3
The continent of Antarctica is approximately 5.483 million square miles. This makes it the second largest open space of land on planet Earth, right behind Arsenal's left flank.
南极大陆的面积约为548.3万平方英里。它是地球陆地第二大的开阔空间，仅次于阿森纳的左边路。
[–]【巴萨】CruyffsPlan 2311 points 12 hours ago2
Arsenal have had a tough start but at least they don't play the CL winners next game
阿森纳开局是很艰难，但至少他们下一场不用跟欧冠得主踢嘛
[–]fefellama 856 points 12 hours ago
Damn, taking shots at two teams with one comment. Efficient.
艹，一句评论同时黑了两支队。真有你的哦。
[–]【越南】leerooney93 217 points 12 hours ago
Yeah West Brom is trash we all knew that. You don't have to say it like that.
是啊，西布朗确实很渣，大伙儿都知道。你何必说得这么阴阳怪气呢。
[–]fefellama 213 points 12 hours ago
Oh damn, you're right. He completely ignored West Brom and went straight to City, that's three teams disrespected in just one sentence. Brutal.
哦靠，你说得对。层主完全忽略了西布朗，直接跳到曼城了，这一波是一句话得罪三家球队。好无情。
（译注：在英超第三轮遭遇曼城之前，阿森纳还将在联赛杯第二轮与西布罗姆维奇交手）
[–]【西布罗姆维奇】cggo1994 143 points 12 hours ago
I am feeling very disrespected
but unlike Man City and Arsenal we can actually beat Chelsea
我确实感到有被冒犯
但不像曼城和阿森纳，我们可是真能击败切尔西的
[–]Dr_Scouselove 851 points 12 hours ago
Liverpool vs Chelsea next week.
0-0 probably
I don't trust big games
下周即将上演利物浦 vs 切尔西。
恐怕会是白卷收场
所谓强强对话大抵如此
[–]【利物浦】slaughtered_gates 568 points 12 hours ago
VVD vs Lukaku would be so much fun to watch
范戴克 vs 卢卡库的对决肯定会很好看
[–]【切尔西】Tahapatel 233 points 12 hours ago
Honestly i feel it will be Timo and Rom against VVD and Matip Timo will have to be on top form tho
讲真，我觉得应该是维尔纳+卢卡库 vs 范戴克+马蒂普，当然维尔纳必须得在绝佳状态才行
[–]【切尔西】Tundra_Inhabitant 154 points 12 hours ago
Yea Timo has to play since our defence will probably sit much deeper against them
是啊，维尔纳必须上场，毕竟我车在对阵他军时防线可能会撤得更深
[–]【朝鲜】KimmyBoiUn 1162 points 12 hours ago
It's going to be a long season for Arsenal.
Their summer window doesn't consist of signings who will significantly impact the team now either.
A lot of pressure on Edu and Arteta.
对阿森纳来说，这将是个漫长的赛季。
而且他们在夏窗转会市场也没有签下对球队有重磅影响的球员。
埃杜和阿尔特塔压力山大。
[–]Grevox268 466 points 12 hours ago
I cant take it anymore Robbie
我忍不了啦罗比（AFTV主持人）
[–]【埃弗顿】HowardLB18 86 points 12 hours ago
The pathway for Arsenal to be contenders again is so fkin long. I just don't see it happening in the next couple years.
Then again, they could just end up signing their own Bruno Fernandes.
阿森纳想要重回争冠行列，道阻且长啊。未来几年里我看是没戏了。
除非有一天，他们终于能签下属于自己的那个“布鲁诺-费尔南德斯”。
[–]【热刺】PM_ME_YOUR_ASTON 355 points 12 hours ago
Just wait Ramsdale is the key to all this
拉姆斯戴尔来了，破厂就太平啦！拉姆斯戴尔来了，青天就有啦！
[–]【曼联】bkay4real 118 points 12 hours ago
If Arsenal keep defending like this then Ramsdale will likely to concede 50+ goals
要是阿森纳的防守继续这个德性，拉姆斯戴尔来了也要丢50多个球
[–]【阿森纳】HaroldSaxon 433 points 12 hours ago
Arteta should have been sacked last December. It's a joke he's still the manager
阿尔特塔去年十二月就该下课的。他还能执掌球队真是个笑话
[–]【朝鲜】KimmyBoiUn 248 points 12 hours ago
Those wins vs United away and Chelsea home saved him.
客胜曼联和主场拿下切尔西保住了他的帅位
[–]【利兹联】TBHBP 422 points 12 hours ago
One of the hardest projects in world football is restoring Arsenal back to title challengers and it's in the hands of a rookie manager. Crazy shit.
世界足坛难度最大的项目之一就是让阿森纳重返争冠轨道，而现在这个项目的负责人却是个菜鸟教练。给离谱抓把盐，齁离谱。
[–]【切尔西】mohankohan 111 points 12 hours ago
One that tries to play Pep-ball deluxe but without the quality or money.
At this point its burnley with fast attackers trying to play possession ball.
而且这个菜鸟教练在一没人二没钱的情况下，还想着打造豪华版的瓜迪奥拉足球。
眼下来看，他们不过是有几个快速攻击手、试图踢控球战术的伯恩利罢了。
[–]GhostToastRider 23 points 11 hours ago
Don't be disrespectful to Burnley
伯恩利：你礼貌吗？
[–]ShawnHBKMichaels 171 points 12 hours ago
One that hasn’t made a single difference in 2 years
这个菜鸟教练上任两年了，却没给球队带来任何改变。
[–]【曼城】Infamy444 360 points 12 hours ago
He made a difference, Arsenal didn't qualify for Europe
谁说没带来改变，阿森纳不是都缺席欧战了吗？
ON：南安普顿 1-1 曼联
[–]【牛津联】Hicko11 2216 points 15 hours ago
Going from "title contenders" to "Ole has no tactics" again in a week
从“冠军争夺者”重回“战术零能力者索肖”只用了一星期
[–]【利物浦】shinto29 727 points 14 hours ago
same old, same old
老样子，都是老样子
[–]BBQ_HaX0r 117 points 14 hours ago
Games where we have space, cede possession, and play on the counter like against Leeds United look unbeatable. When they get pressed up high or face a low block then they struggle. This isn't rocket science.
一旦在比赛中我们拥有空间，让出控球，像对阵利兹联时那样打反击战术，那曼联看上去就所向无敌。一旦他们被高位逼抢，或者面对低位死守，他们就陷入挣扎了。就是这么简单。
[–]【利物浦】TheConundrum98 583 points 14 hours ago
having an average/slightly above average manager is a curse because you never know when to sack him because he can do some good things and you think "damn, we're on a roll", then you bring in some major signings and all is looking good and you're title challengers. The reality is, you cannot win this league with an average manager regardless of how good the squad is.
坐拥一位平均/略高于平均水平的教练其实是一种诅咒，因为你永远不知道何时该炒他鱿鱼，因为他确实能干出一些成绩，让你觉得“嘿，我们走上正轨了”，然后你就搞定一些重要签约，一切看起来都很棒，你成为了冠军争夺者。现实情况则是，无论阵容有多强，你是不可能靠一位平均水平的教练赢得联赛冠军的。
[–]【利物浦】Bhola421 374 points 14 hours ago
What are you talking about? Ole is perfect!
你在说些啥子哦？人家索肖明明就巴适得板！
[–]【索马里】abibyama 76 points 14 hours ago
New season Same Man Utd.
全新的赛季，一样的曼联。
[–]【南安普顿】yourmotherisepic 749 points 14 hours ago
I would just like to thank Chelsea for Livramento. He’s so fucking good
感谢切尔西送来的利夫拉门托。贼好使
[–]ScientistHulk 383 points 14 hours ago
Pretty sure Chelsea fans want to thank Southampton also for accepting the buy-back clause (relatively cheap, around 25M pounds), given he had 1-year contract left and had no intention to sign a new one.
我肯定切尔西球迷也想感谢南安普顿愿意接受回购条款（相对便宜，大约2500万镑），毕竟他还剩1年合同，而且不愿意续约。
[–]【伊斯特利FC】TheRalphExpress 163 points 14 hours ago
yeah it’s probably two years here and a big profit, gonna enjoy him while I can!
对，他大概还能在这呆两年，而且也大有益处，且行且珍惜！
[–]【切尔西】Lazyan 46 points 14 hours ago
I'm happy You guys got him instead of Brighton. They fucking tried to fuck us lmao
很高兴是你们而不是布莱顿有幸跟他结缘。布莱顿一门心思就特么想给我们来点好康的。
[–]oojamaflip123 804 points 14 hours ago
United went from looking like scoring at any moment to toothless and looking like conceeding at any minute
曼联一路从“随时都可能得分”转变成了“随时都可能失分”
[–]【圣路易斯城】xyzzy321[🍰] 227 points 14 hours ago
Story of our post-SAF times
我们在后弗格森时代的真实写照
[–]【利物浦】dave1992 64 points 14 hours ago
These games are the games that Ferguson guaranteed to win 1-0.
弗格森在任时，这样的比赛会确保1-0拿下的。
[–]【哈斯菲尔德】OfficialGloryHunter 993 points 14 hours ago
Fred/McTominay/Matic is a midfield that won't scare any team in the world. United won't win anything until they improve that area.
弗雷德/麦克托米奈/马蒂奇组成的中场，对世界上其他任何球队都没有威慑力。中场没有改善的话，曼联终会颗粒无收。
[–]【马竞】CanLlorenteCarForMe 567 points 14 hours ago
It'll scare our Sunday league team ngl
有啥说啥，吓唬吓唬咱们业余联赛球队还是够的
[–]Hakan_Calstanoglu 128 points 14 hours ago
Fred/mctominay/matic vs modric/casemiro/kroos would be funny to see
弗雷德/麦克托米奈/马蒂奇 VS 莫德里奇/卡塞米罗/克罗斯，想想都刺激
[–]【曼联】LollipopScientist 57 points 14 hours ago
Jeez, looking at the comparison is sad.
天呐，光是看这对比就够扎心了。
[–]【曼联】MH18Foot 69 points 14 hours ago
Neves is available for €35m. Get him now before the windows close.
内维斯现在只卖3500万欧。趁转会窗还没关，赶紧签他啊。
[–]【利物浦】PornFilterRefugee 96 points 14 hours ago
He’s good but he’s not single handedly fix a midfield good.
他是挺优秀，但还没有优秀到能够单枪匹马修复整个中场的程度。
[–]【曼联】D1794 250 points 14 hours ago
Our midfield simply isn't good enough
我们的中场就是不够好
[–]【斯托克港FC】english_gritts 69 points 14 hours ago
Pogba had a decent graft today
博格巴今天不务正业啊
[–]【越南】leerooney93 137 points 14 hours ago
He played as a winger most of the time though.
然而他今天大部分时间都是在踢边锋
[–]【阿斯顿维拉】Slight-Name 49 points 14 hours ago
Sancho didn't look impressive when he came on. Why was he just standing around? Brought the tempo down.
桑乔上来之后表现也不咋滴。为什么他就那么傻站着？把进攻速度都拖慢了。
[–]【利物浦】promocodeclq 168 points 14 hours ago
Van de Bench must have ran over Oles dog or something. Mad that Fred gets game time and he doesn't.
板凳贝克是把索肖的狗压死了还是咋的。弗雷德都能出场，范德贝克却没机会，过分。
[–]【曼联】Gillett1998 46 points 13 hours ago
Not even Fred but fucking Jesse, he should be at West Ham
弗雷德先不提，连林加德都上了，他本该去西汉姆的
[–]【曼联】D1794 19 points 14 hours ago
We don't have the midfielder who would 'unlock' him for us. It's a bit of a meme to 'unlock' someone by signing someone else but literally Ole won't put him next to Fred/Pogba/McTominay in a pivot. And good luck taking Bruno off to play him in the 10.
I feel if we actually signed a competent defensive midfielder we'd see much more of Donny. Unbelievably though we're gunna go a full season without strengthening that area. Again
我们没有能够“激活”范德贝克的中场球员。要再签下另一名球员来“激活”现有的球员，听起来特像段子，但事实上索肖根本就不会把他置于弗雷德/博格巴/麦克托米奈的中轴线旁边。更别说把B费拿下换范德贝克打10号位了。
我觉得吧，要是我们能签下一名有能力的防守中场，那我们就能看到更棒的范德贝克。令人难以置信的是，我们恐怕要在中场这个区域完全没有增强的的情况下打完整个赛季了。再一次如此。
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ON：阿森纳 0-2 切尔西
[–]【阿森纳】mthrs 684 points 12 hours ago
Watching Mari defend Lukaku was like watching someone trying to stop a train with Fiat Punto.
马里防守卢卡库，好比是有人试图用一辆菲亚特-朋多（紧凑型两厢车）去拦火车
[–]icestrok 163 points 11 hours ago
To be fair to him, he did try , Lukaku is just a beast
有一说一，马里努力过了，然而卢卡库完全就是一头猛兽
[–]【阿森纳】acaddgc 2152 points 12 hours ago
lukaku handled pablo mari like his personal offside line
卢卡库把马里玩儿成了自己的私人越位线。
[–]【切尔西】I_always_rated_them 583 points 11 hours ago
There was a pass upfield into him that was a little slow and I swear any other player would come towards it and collect, Lukaku just held Mari in place for ages and then turned with it and ran lol.
比赛时我车有一个往前场他那个方向的传球，球速不快，我敢说其他任何球员都能拍马赶到控住皮球，结果卢卡库愣是把马里压制了在原地，自己上前抢下皮球疾驰而去。
[–]【切尔西】paone0022 281 points 10 hours ago
We should just sign brawlers for strikers. Drogba and Costa worked where Torres and Morata didn't
我车的中锋位置就该签蛮牛型的。像德罗巴和科斯塔这样的特别好使，反观托雷斯和莫拉塔就水得不行
[–]【富勒姆】jordanhhh4 1511 points 12 hours ago
'it's hardly fair, Chelsea have an optical illusion on their shirt, the boys couldn't concentrate.' - Ty.
“太不公平了，切尔西球衣有光学干扰功能，我们的球员完全没法集中精神。”——Ty（AFTV枪迷频道常驻球迷）
[–]【切尔西】alx69 577 points 12 hours ago
Plus it rained
而且还在下雨
[–]【切尔西】I_always_rated_them 280 points 12 hours ago
Legit feel like the rain produced Arsenals best spell of the game
我咋感觉下雨那会儿反倒是他厂在本场比赛表现最好的阶段呢
[–]Hare712 141 points 12 hours ago
'Look at the bright side we are 6 points behind the leaders of the table'-Ty
“往好的一面看，我们现在离榜首也只差6分而已”——Ty
[–]【阿森纳】PeakSkinner 890 points 12 hours ago
Looking forward to our 2-0 defeat to City next.
坐等下一场2-0输给曼城。
[–]【阿森纳】cw757_ 803 points 12 hours ago
Bit optimistic
才2-0，哥们你真乐观
[–]【切尔西】Sektsioon 473 points 12 hours ago*
City are way more ruthless than us, we were clearly happy with the 2-0 and didn’t try too much in the 2nd half. Had a couple of good chances, Leno made a couple of great saves, but otherwise we were just cruising. City won’t be cruising up 2-0 lmao. If they get 2 as quickly as we did, it could get very ugly.
曼城比我车可凶残多了，我车能拿个2-0就满心欢喜，下半场也收着在踢。我们有过几次良机，莱诺也贡献了不少精彩扑救，但总的来说我们还是见好就收的。换了曼城2-0领先，他们可不会鸣金收兵的。如果他们像我们一样早早打进两球，估计你厂是躲不掉一场腥风血雨的。
[–]【阿森纳】AZ_76 363 points 12 hours ago
Pep doesn't like to embarrass Arteta, it'll probably be 1 or 2 nil
瓜帅不会难为阿尔特塔的，1-0或者2-0就差不多了
[–]coronnial 133 points 12 hours ago
Hope is a good thing
有希望是好事
[–]【阿森纳】flyingghost 84 points 11 hours ago
Or maybe Pep wants Arteta back as his assistant and beat us 4 or 5 nil.
又或者瓜帅想让阿尔特塔回去给他继续当助教，于是灌我厂一个4-0或5-0。
[–]【马竞】LilHalwaPoori 178 points 12 hours ago
Pep always relaxes after 1-2 goals against arteta..
瓜帅对阵阿尔特塔时，通常都是打进1-2个球就松开油门了……
[–]【尤文图斯】SamX17 117 points 12 hours ago
It won't be 2-0
肯定不会是2-0
[–]【阿森纳】athul_17x 285 points 12 hours ago
City usually just score 2 in 10 minutes and then switch to training mode.
曼城一般都是10分钟内先下两城，然后切换为训练模式。
[–]【利物浦】Thesolly180 669 points 12 hours ago
Just that first half defensively was a mess for Arsenal. Lukaku’s movement has improved so much, but the way Arsenal handled it was awful early on. He was constantly allowed to drift off the shoulder and get the run on Holding. The midfield did nothing to stop balls between the lines into Lukaku’s feet either for him to hold up, which made things harder for the centre backs.
Probably the most worrying building up to the second goal was James constantly not being picked up and nothing really changed until he finally scored from it
阿森纳上半场的防守表现堪称灾难。卢卡库的跑位进步显著，但阿森纳应对他的方式一开始就够烂的。卢卡库在阿森纳后场根本如入无人之境，霍尔丁完全看不住他。枪手中场对皮球输送给卢卡库的通道完全不设防，对卢卡库持球也没有相应部署，这让他们的中后卫更加头大。
第二个进球的全过程中最让人忧心的地方在于，詹姆斯从头到尾都没有防守球员去跟，直到他最终进球时也是如此。
[–]Guinasaur 520 points 12 hours ago*
Chelsea's offensive shape makes it absolutely impossible. Same thing happened against Palace last week and we saw it in both Chelsea's goals today. Chelsea uses every inch of the pitch.
If Arsenal defends narrow then they got overloaded on the flank by Chelsea's wing back, two midfielders and two 10s behind Lukaku (Mount/Havertz).
If they try and protect themselves by defending the flanks then Jorginho, Havertz, Mount, Kante/Kovacic/Rudiger are all capable of playing the ball into the center to Lukaku every time.
If Arsenal tries to protect against both by playing narrow _and_ tight and shifting their whole formation towards the flank when Chelsea moves it to that side, then all the ball players from Chelsea are really adept at switching play to the opposite wingback and you end up overloaded anyway. Chelsea moves the ball so quickly when switching play compared to other teams with similar possession styles, it's insane.
Tuchel has really built a system that's impossible to play against with the players Chelsea has. Having a player at 9 who can hold up play and get involved was their big missing piece. Now with their shape including Lukaku they have so many options to cut through the defense.
切尔西的进攻风格让阿森纳的防守徒劳无功。他们上周打水晶宫就是这样，今天的两粒进球同样如此。切尔西把球场的每一寸都利用到了极致。
如果阿森纳防线收窄，那么他们会在两翼被切尔西的边翼卫、两名中场和两名在卢卡库身后埋伏的10号位球员（芒特/哈弗茨）完全钳制。
如果阿森纳试图把防守重心放在边路，那么若日尼奥、哈弗茨、芒特、坎特/科瓦契奇/吕迪格就能轻易在中路组织进攻把球传递给卢卡库。
如果阿森纳试图在收窄防线的同时，一旦遇到切尔西走边路就切换阵型去防守翼位，那么切尔西所有的组织者都能熟练地改踢反向边翼卫角色，最后阿森纳依然会被拿捏得死死的。和其他有着类似控球风格的球队相比，切尔西在战术切换时的转移球速度实在是太快了，简直逆天。
图赫尔确实利用切尔西现有的阵容打造出了一个难以匹敌的体系。一个能拿住球、参与进攻组织的9号位球员曾是他车最大的短板。如今有了卢卡库，他们的进攻风格已经有了太多撕开对手防线的办法。
[–]【热刺】yesthepeople 229 points 11 hours ago
To be funny, Tuchel plays Football Manager out there. The speed of passing, the cross movements of all the players…there’s almost no stopping it. Chelsea’s only enemies are themselves.
好家伙，图赫尔搁这玩足球经理呢。传球的速度，全体球员的各种交叉跑位……就问你还有谁。切尔西唯一的对手就是他们自己。
[–]【利物浦】pure_black99 2478 points 12 hours ago
If Arsenal losing makes their fans so angry why don't they simply win their games instead?
如果阿森纳输球会让枪迷愤怒不已的话，那他们为啥不干脆赢下比赛呢？
[–]【阿森纳】Whyudodisbro 540 points 12 hours ago
I blame Rob Holding's haircut
都TM怪霍尔丁的破发型
[–]【阿森纳】Zizouhimovic 204 points 12 hours ago
"Just put the soccer balls in the net things" - Stan Kroenke probably
“把皮球搞进像网一样的那玩意儿里就好了呗”——斯坦-克伦克（设计台词）
[–]【美国】HomeStallone 276 points 12 hours ago
Why doesn't Hein, the tallest Arsenal player, not simply eat the Chelsea players?
为什么不干脆派阿森纳个子最高的球员，卡尔-海因（青年门将）直接把切尔西球员吃了？
[–]【切尔西】BumbotheCleric 2664 points 12 hours ago*3
The continent of Antarctica is approximately 5.483 million square miles. This makes it the second largest open space of land on planet Earth, right behind Arsenal's left flank.
南极大陆的面积约为548.3万平方英里。它是地球陆地第二大的开阔空间，仅次于阿森纳的左边路。
[–]【巴萨】CruyffsPlan 2311 points 12 hours ago2
Arsenal have had a tough start but at least they don't play the CL winners next game
阿森纳开局是很艰难，但至少他们下一场不用跟欧冠得主踢嘛
[–]fefellama 856 points 12 hours ago
Damn, taking shots at two teams with one comment. Efficient.
艹，一句评论同时黑了两支队。真有你的哦。
[–]【越南】leerooney93 217 points 12 hours ago
Yeah West Brom is trash we all knew that. You don't have to say it like that.
是啊，西布朗确实很渣，大伙儿都知道。你何必说得这么阴阳怪气呢。
[–]fefellama 213 points 12 hours ago
Oh damn, you're right. He completely ignored West Brom and went straight to City, that's three teams disrespected in just one sentence. Brutal.
哦靠，你说得对。层主完全忽略了西布朗，直接跳到曼城了，这一波是一句话得罪三家球队。好无情。
（译注：在英超第三轮遭遇曼城之前，阿森纳还将在联赛杯第二轮与西布罗姆维奇交手）
[–]【西布罗姆维奇】cggo1994 143 points 12 hours ago
I am feeling very disrespected
but unlike Man City and Arsenal we can actually beat Chelsea
我确实感到有被冒犯
但不像曼城和阿森纳，我们可是真能击败切尔西的
[–]Dr_Scouselove 851 points 12 hours ago
Liverpool vs Chelsea next week.
0-0 probably
I don't trust big games
下周即将上演利物浦 vs 切尔西。
恐怕会是白卷收场
所谓强强对话大抵如此
[–]【利物浦】slaughtered_gates 568 points 12 hours ago
VVD vs Lukaku would be so much fun to watch
范戴克 vs 卢卡库的对决肯定会很好看
[–]【切尔西】Tahapatel 233 points 12 hours ago
Honestly i feel it will be Timo and Rom against VVD and Matip Timo will have to be on top form tho
讲真，我觉得应该是维尔纳+卢卡库 vs 范戴克+马蒂普，当然维尔纳必须得在绝佳状态才行
[–]【切尔西】Tundra_Inhabitant 154 points 12 hours ago
Yea Timo has to play since our defence will probably sit much deeper against them
是啊，维尔纳必须上场，毕竟我车在对阵他军时防线可能会撤得更深
[–]【朝鲜】KimmyBoiUn 1162 points 12 hours ago
It's going to be a long season for Arsenal.
Their summer window doesn't consist of signings who will significantly impact the team now either.
A lot of pressure on Edu and Arteta.
对阿森纳来说，这将是个漫长的赛季。
而且他们在夏窗转会市场也没有签下对球队有重磅影响的球员。
埃杜和阿尔特塔压力山大。
[–]Grevox268 466 points 12 hours ago
I cant take it anymore Robbie
我忍不了啦罗比（AFTV主持人）
[–]【埃弗顿】HowardLB18 86 points 12 hours ago
The pathway for Arsenal to be contenders again is so fkin long. I just don't see it happening in the next couple years.
Then again, they could just end up signing their own Bruno Fernandes.
阿森纳想要重回争冠行列，道阻且长啊。未来几年里我看是没戏了。
除非有一天，他们终于能签下属于自己的那个“布鲁诺-费尔南德斯”。
[–]【热刺】PM_ME_YOUR_ASTON 355 points 12 hours ago
Just wait Ramsdale is the key to all this
拉姆斯戴尔来了，破厂就太平啦！拉姆斯戴尔来了，青天就有啦！
[–]【曼联】bkay4real 118 points 12 hours ago
If Arsenal keep defending like this then Ramsdale will likely to concede 50+ goals
要是阿森纳的防守继续这个德性，拉姆斯戴尔来了也要丢50多个球
[–]【阿森纳】HaroldSaxon 433 points 12 hours ago
Arteta should have been sacked last December. It's a joke he's still the manager
阿尔特塔去年十二月就该下课的。他还能执掌球队真是个笑话
[–]【朝鲜】KimmyBoiUn 248 points 12 hours ago
Those wins vs United away and Chelsea home saved him.
客胜曼联和主场拿下切尔西保住了他的帅位
[–]【利兹联】TBHBP 422 points 12 hours ago
One of the hardest projects in world football is restoring Arsenal back to title challengers and it's in the hands of a rookie manager. Crazy shit.
世界足坛难度最大的项目之一就是让阿森纳重返争冠轨道，而现在这个项目的负责人却是个菜鸟教练。给离谱抓把盐，齁离谱。
[–]【切尔西】mohankohan 111 points 12 hours ago
One that tries to play Pep-ball deluxe but without the quality or money.
At this point its burnley with fast attackers trying to play possession ball.
而且这个菜鸟教练在一没人二没钱的情况下，还想着打造豪华版的瓜迪奥拉足球。
眼下来看，他们不过是有几个快速攻击手、试图踢控球战术的伯恩利罢了。
[–]GhostToastRider 23 points 11 hours ago
Don't be disrespectful to Burnley
伯恩利：你礼貌吗？
[–]ShawnHBKMichaels 171 points 12 hours ago
One that hasn’t made a single difference in 2 years
这个菜鸟教练上任两年了，却没给球队带来任何改变。
[–]【曼城】Infamy444 360 points 12 hours ago
He made a difference, Arsenal didn't qualify for Europe
谁说没带来改变，阿森纳不是都缺席欧战了吗？
ON：南安普顿 1-1 曼联
[–]【牛津联】Hicko11 2216 points 15 hours ago
Going from "title contenders" to "Ole has no tactics" again in a week
从“冠军争夺者”重回“战术零能力者索肖”只用了一星期
[–]【利物浦】shinto29 727 points 14 hours ago
same old, same old
老样子，都是老样子
[–]BBQ_HaX0r 117 points 14 hours ago
Games where we have space, cede possession, and play on the counter like against Leeds United look unbeatable. When they get pressed up high or face a low block then they struggle. This isn't rocket science.
一旦在比赛中我们拥有空间，让出控球，像对阵利兹联时那样打反击战术，那曼联看上去就所向无敌。一旦他们被高位逼抢，或者面对低位死守，他们就陷入挣扎了。就是这么简单。
[–]【利物浦】TheConundrum98 583 points 14 hours ago
having an average/slightly above average manager is a curse because you never know when to sack him because he can do some good things and you think "damn, we're on a roll", then you bring in some major signings and all is looking good and you're title challengers. The reality is, you cannot win this league with an average manager regardless of how good the squad is.
坐拥一位平均/略高于平均水平的教练其实是一种诅咒，因为你永远不知道何时该炒他鱿鱼，因为他确实能干出一些成绩，让你觉得“嘿，我们走上正轨了”，然后你就搞定一些重要签约，一切看起来都很棒，你成为了冠军争夺者。现实情况则是，无论阵容有多强，你是不可能靠一位平均水平的教练赢得联赛冠军的。
[–]【利物浦】Bhola421 374 points 14 hours ago
What are you talking about? Ole is perfect!
你在说些啥子哦？人家索肖明明就巴适得板！
[–]【索马里】abibyama 76 points 14 hours ago
New season Same Man Utd.
全新的赛季，一样的曼联。
[–]【南安普顿】yourmotherisepic 749 points 14 hours ago
I would just like to thank Chelsea for Livramento. He’s so fucking good
感谢切尔西送来的利夫拉门托。贼好使
[–]ScientistHulk 383 points 14 hours ago
Pretty sure Chelsea fans want to thank Southampton also for accepting the buy-back clause (relatively cheap, around 25M pounds), given he had 1-year contract left and had no intention to sign a new one.
我肯定切尔西球迷也想感谢南安普顿愿意接受回购条款（相对便宜，大约2500万镑），毕竟他还剩1年合同，而且不愿意续约。
[–]【伊斯特利FC】TheRalphExpress 163 points 14 hours ago
yeah it’s probably two years here and a big profit, gonna enjoy him while I can!
对，他大概还能在这呆两年，而且也大有益处，且行且珍惜！
[–]【切尔西】Lazyan 46 points 14 hours ago
I'm happy You guys got him instead of Brighton. They fucking tried to fuck us lmao
很高兴是你们而不是布莱顿有幸跟他结缘。布莱顿一门心思就特么想给我们来点好康的。
[–]oojamaflip123 804 points 14 hours ago
United went from looking like scoring at any moment to toothless and looking like conceeding at any minute
曼联一路从“随时都可能得分”转变成了“随时都可能失分”
[–]【圣路易斯城】xyzzy321[🍰] 227 points 14 hours ago
Story of our post-SAF times
我们在后弗格森时代的真实写照
[–]【利物浦】dave1992 64 points 14 hours ago
These games are the games that Ferguson guaranteed to win 1-0.
弗格森在任时，这样的比赛会确保1-0拿下的。
[–]【哈斯菲尔德】OfficialGloryHunter 993 points 14 hours ago
Fred/McTominay/Matic is a midfield that won't scare any team in the world. United won't win anything until they improve that area.
弗雷德/麦克托米奈/马蒂奇组成的中场，对世界上其他任何球队都没有威慑力。中场没有改善的话，曼联终会颗粒无收。
[–]【马竞】CanLlorenteCarForMe 567 points 14 hours ago
It'll scare our Sunday league team ngl
有啥说啥，吓唬吓唬咱们业余联赛球队还是够的
[–]Hakan_Calstanoglu 128 points 14 hours ago
Fred/mctominay/matic vs modric/casemiro/kroos would be funny to see
弗雷德/麦克托米奈/马蒂奇 VS 莫德里奇/卡塞米罗/克罗斯，想想都刺激
[–]【曼联】LollipopScientist 57 points 14 hours ago
Jeez, looking at the comparison is sad.
天呐，光是看这对比就够扎心了。
[–]【曼联】MH18Foot 69 points 14 hours ago
Neves is available for €35m. Get him now before the windows close.
内维斯现在只卖3500万欧。趁转会窗还没关，赶紧签他啊。
[–]【利物浦】PornFilterRefugee 96 points 14 hours ago
He’s good but he’s not single handedly fix a midfield good.
他是挺优秀，但还没有优秀到能够单枪匹马修复整个中场的程度。
[–]【曼联】D1794 250 points 14 hours ago
Our midfield simply isn't good enough
我们的中场就是不够好
[–]【斯托克港FC】english_gritts 69 points 14 hours ago
Pogba had a decent graft today
博格巴今天不务正业啊
[–]【越南】leerooney93 137 points 14 hours ago
He played as a winger most of the time though.
然而他今天大部分时间都是在踢边锋
[–]【阿斯顿维拉】Slight-Name 49 points 14 hours ago
Sancho didn't look impressive when he came on. Why was he just standing around? Brought the tempo down.
桑乔上来之后表现也不咋滴。为什么他就那么傻站着？把进攻速度都拖慢了。
[–]【利物浦】promocodeclq 168 points 14 hours ago
Van de Bench must have ran over Oles dog or something. Mad that Fred gets game time and he doesn't.
板凳贝克是把索肖的狗压死了还是咋的。弗雷德都能出场，范德贝克却没机会，过分。
[–]【曼联】Gillett1998 46 points 13 hours ago
Not even Fred but fucking Jesse, he should be at West Ham
弗雷德先不提，连林加德都上了，他本该去西汉姆的
[–]【曼联】D1794 19 points 14 hours ago
We don't have the midfielder who would 'unlock' him for us. It's a bit of a meme to 'unlock' someone by signing someone else but literally Ole won't put him next to Fred/Pogba/McTominay in a pivot. And good luck taking Bruno off to play him in the 10.
I feel if we actually signed a competent defensive midfielder we'd see much more of Donny. Unbelievably though we're gunna go a full season without strengthening that area. Again
我们没有能够“激活”范德贝克的中场球员。要再签下另一名球员来“激活”现有的球员，听起来特像段子，但事实上索肖根本就不会把他置于弗雷德/博格巴/麦克托米奈的中轴线旁边。更别说把B费拿下换范德贝克打10号位了。
我觉得吧，要是我们能签下一名有能力的防守中场，那我们就能看到更棒的范德贝克。令人难以置信的是，我们恐怕要在中场这个区域完全没有增强的的情况下打完整个赛季了。再一次如此。
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