[传声筒][日刊21.08.09]诺坎普别为我哭泣！梅西的眼泪刺痛网友心扉由传声筒 发表在足球话题区 https://bbs.hupu.com/topic
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ON：梅西在诺坎普召开告别巴萨发布会
[–]【罗马】Y3llowflash1 291 points 15 hours ago
After already experiencing this with Totti, i feel for the Barca fans, it’s not easy losing your greatest player
作为经历过告别托蒂的过来人，我与巴萨球迷感同身受，失去自家最伟大球员的滋味太苦涩了
[–]【巴萨】Taylannnnn 218 points 15 hours ago
at least you got to see him retire and not pushed out like this 😭😭
好歹你们你们亲眼见证了他退役，而不是像梅西这样被撵出家门 😭😭
[–]【皇马】Deluxe07 14 points 12 hours ago
Totti was kinda pushed out though. They forced him to retire
其实托蒂那会儿也有点被撵出家门的意思。他们强迫他退役。
[–]【巴萨】donandres08 52 points 15 hours ago
Worst thing is neither we nor he wants to go....
最糟糕的在于，离开巴萨这事，无论是我们球迷还是梅西本人都不想发生的……
[–]【巴萨】Nurulyacob 253 points 15 hours ago
Lol Messi just hinted he won't hold back against us if we met hahahahahhah. I can't imagine Messi humiliating Lenglet and Pique lol.
梅西刚刚还暗示说他未来如果和我们交手的话绝不会手下留情，哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。朗格莱和皮克被梅西蹂躏，啧啧，画美不看。
[–]【圣洛伦索】junior150396 179 points 15 hours ago
"Nothing personal boys" * dribbles them out of existence *
“哥几个，没有针对你们的意思哈”然后把他们过了个惨无人道
[–]【皇马】st_huck 94 points 15 hours ago
Probably the only time I was happy for a Messi goal not in the national team was when you played Bayern. Bayern played fairly well, got some chanches, then Messi decided around the 70th minute that's enough and just killed Boateng. A big part of me thought "see Pep, it's not so fun when it happens to you".
I feel liberated, I have two years to enjoy Messi fully, we aren't competitive for the near future anyway.
我唯一一次为梅西的非国家队进球感到高兴，就是看你村踢拜仁那场。拜仁踢得确实很棒，良机颇多，然后梅西在比赛进行到大约70分钟时决定摊牌了，接下来就是博阿滕的名场面。我内心深处在想“瓜帅你瞧见了吧，这种事儿搁你自己身上可就没那么有趣了。”
如今我如释重负，我可以在接下来两年里彻底享受梅西的足球，反正短期内我们不是竞争对手了。
[–]【巴萨】Alex95111 38 points 14 hours ago
Real draws PSG in the last 16
坐等欧冠16进8皇马抽到大巴黎
[–]【切尔西】Ploufy 782 points 15 hours ago
Guy translating is also in tears.
现场负责翻译的那哥们也哭了。
[–]【威尔士】ShagPrince 345 points 15 hours ago
Sounds like he's doing his A-level Spanish listening exam
你这说的像是他在参加西班牙语听力高考一样
[–]【切尔西】honestlynotBG 71 points 15 hours ago
Cheers translator's crying
为翻译哥的眼泪点赞
[–]FalafelGrim2 332 points 15 hours ago
The translator is translating Messi's emotions as well. Even the translator's voice is breaking.
现场翻译甚至把梅西的情绪也翻译出来了。连翻译自己的声音都在颤抖。
[–]【狼队】PakiIronman 1062 points 15 hours ago
"Last year i didn't want to stay and i did, this year i wanted to stay and i couldn't"
Wow, fuck.
“去年我没想留队但我留下来了，今年我想留队但却事与愿违”
哇噢，这事儿闹的。
[–]AccomplishedTune8515 84 points 15 hours ago
Summarises life, pretty much :(.
人生写照，过于生草 :(
[–]Kukka92 112 points 15 hours ago
That hurts :(
太伤人了 :(
[–]Java_Beans 469 points 15 hours ago
Messi to PSG: I will accept with two conditions. All games are to be played in Camp Nou and I will live in Barcelona.
梅西对大巴黎说：应了你可以，但你得答应我两个条件。一是所有比赛都得在诺坎普进行，二是我要住在巴塞罗那。
[–]【阿森纳】hafrances 677 points 15 hours ago
If you like crying you should come to Arsenal
要是你喜欢眼泪的味道，你应该来阿森纳
[–]loveandpeace1996 71 points 15 hours ago
They will offer him 39M+1M euro per year if he come, no joke.
他要来的话，阿森纳会给他开3900万+100万欧元的年薪，不开玩笑。
[–]【巴萨】thebelsnickle1991 522 points 16 hours ago*
Goodbye Leo. Haven’t felt this sad since Ronaldinho’s departure..
再见了，梅西。自从小罗离去后，我还从没这么悲伤过……
[–]【切尔西】honestlynotBG 297 points 16 hours ago
Tbf none of us expected this to go from 0 to 100 real fucking quick in the last few days
讲真，我们谁都没有料到，在这短短几天里，梅西离队的可能性就从0飙升到了100
[–]【阿森纳】Jayveesac 194 points 16 hours ago*
Barca could've done so many things to keep him. To let him walk on to PSG for free because they couldn't pay him underscores how ruined Bartomeu left Barcelona. The damage he did is going to be felt for years
巴萨本该尽一切努力来留住梅西。因为付不起梅西的工资而让他自由身转投大巴黎，这彰显了巴托梅乌给巴萨留下的烂摊子烂到了何种程度。巴托梅乌对俱乐部造成的破坏还将遗患多年。
[–]SwirlingAmbition 105 points 15 hours ago
On the positive side, Barca couldn't rely on Messi forever. Whilst it's not the best way for him to leave, it now forces Barca to push past the "Messi will sort us out" to actually try and bring the next generation through.
Obviously losing him to PSG hurts, and Bartomeu has really caused massive underlying issues, but I think the process needed to happen at some point in the next couple of seasons anyway.
从积极的角度看，巴萨毕竟不能永远依赖梅西。尽管这并不是梅西最理想的离队方式，但同样也能迫使巴萨迈过“总有梅西解决问题”的阶段，真正试着去换血新生。
很显然，眼睁睁送梅西大巴黎会很痛苦，而巴托梅乌则是这一地鸡毛的罪魁祸首，但我觉得这个过程即便现在不来，也会在未来几个赛季的某个时刻到来。
ON：梅西在发布会现场受到全场起立鼓掌
[–]unknown_comicnerd 3289 points 15 hours ago
Bartomeu is condemned to spend the rest of his life in hatred from the people of Catalonia... I can assure you that.
巴托梅乌注定会在加泰罗尼亚人民的仇恨中度过余生……耶稣都留佢唔住，我话嘅。
[–]【巴萨】theTIMEKEEPER_ 1176 points 14 hours ago
I find it hard to believe he cares
很难相信他真的会在乎这个
[–]Critical-Cupcake9194 474 points 12 hours ago
The superleague proposal we had a while ago, is enough indication that these people don't give a fuck about anything but $$$$
此前我们发起的欧超联动议，已经充分表明了他们这帮人除了搞钱压根不在乎任何事情
[–]Fantus 238 points 11 hours ago
Then he's not really good at $$$$, since he allowed the club to get that broke
然而他又实在不擅长搞钱，毕竟在巴托梅乌治下俱乐部都要破产了
[–]ShezSteel 2381 points 15 hours ago
This man deserves the Camp Nou filled for a week just to send him off
这个男人配得上诺坎普球场座无虚席一星期来向他送别
[–]【巴萨】dext3rrr 707 points 14 hours ago
I would be there for a whole week. Could even sleep on the chair.
我愿意在那呆一整周。哪怕睡在椅子上都行。
[–]CarecaPT 336 points 13 hours ago
He deserves to have the stadium named after him today!
他今天配得上一座以他名字命名的球场！
[–]【皇家帕托斯】Jaegaremix 5967 points 15 hours ago*
He played his last game for Barca without the fans who cherished him the most. Unlike Xavi and Iniesta, he didn’t get a proper send off but just the best of what they could give him at the moment. Life can be cruel…
在他身披巴萨球衣的最后一场比赛里，周遭却没有最为珍爱他的球迷环伺。跟哈维和伊涅斯塔不同，他没能尊享体面的欢送，能收获的仅仅是他们此刻能为他送上的最好的礼遇（起立鼓掌）。人生有时候就是这么残酷……
[–]Surfsupforthesummer 3289 points 14 hours ago
I just always assumed he’d retire/leave with 100’s of thousands of people inside and outside Camp Nou. This just feels soo wrong and sad.
在我的一直以来的设想中，他会在足以挤爆诺坎普的数以万计的球迷簇拥下退役或离开。如今的场景让人感觉很不对劲，而且充满悲伤。
[–]elgallogrande 2024 points 14 hours ago
Coming this april: messi and PSG eliminate Barca in CL at camp Nou. Gets a standing ovation.
四月即将上映：欧冠淘汰赛，梅西率大巴黎于诺坎普一举歼灭巴萨。全场起立，掌声雷动。
[–]【阿森纳】elnander 731 points 14 hours ago*
I hope something along these lines does happen, I always pictured Messi's departure from Barça as something that would be so monumental. I hope Barça fans will respect why Messi did what he had to.
我希望现实能按这样的剧本走，我总是在脑海中将梅西与巴萨的道别浮现为一个特别有纪念意义的场景。希望巴萨球迷能尊重梅西做他必须要做之事的原因。
[–]MiNi_MiLiTi 84 points 13 hours ago
Can you explain an outsider why he had to leave.
不懂就问，为什么梅西必须要离开呢？
[–]DrAuer 409 points 13 hours ago
La Liga has a strict wage cap that’s based on revenue from the previous season. La Liga teams will often leave players unregistered for the season so they can still meet the wage gap requirements.
Barca is in really bad debt and the revenues from last year were bad along with really high wage bills from their players. In La Liga you can only have up to 70% of your revenue be your wage bill. With Messi, Barca would be at 110%+. Even if Messi played for 100% free it would only reduce their ratio to something like 90%.
TLDR; Barca broke, pandemic bad, La Liga rules weird
西甲对于球队工资帽有着严格的规定，工资帽的设定是基于球队上赛季的营收。西甲球队经常会采取不给球员在当季注册的方法，好让球队满足工资帽要求。
巴萨的负债情况很严重，而他们去年的收入情况也很糟糕，况且还有球员的天价工资账单。按西甲规定，你的工资帽上限只能是营收额的70%。梅西留队的话，巴萨的工资总额会去到110%以上。就算梅西新赛季为巴萨免费踢球，那他们的工资总额也只是降到90%左右。
太长不看版：巴萨破产，疫情凶猛，西甲规定奇葩。
[–]【曼联】SpicyDragoon93 370 points 15 hours ago
They could always arrange it for him at some point.
他们以后还是可以帮他安排一次告别仪式的。
[–]【巴萨】S3Dzyy 565 points 15 hours ago
Messi said it wouldn't be the same :(
梅西说了，那并不是一回事 :(
[–]【利物浦】TheLimeyLemmon 2275 points 15 hours ago
I don't think the true extent of heartbreak and bitterness has even begun to hit Barca fans. That's going to set in gradually.
But this probably hurts to see, either way.
我觉得巴萨球迷还没有真正开始感受到心碎与痛苦的来袭。这种情绪会慢慢地侵蚀到人的骨子里。
但无论如何，这一幕还是太令人心痛了
[–]【皇马】inno_func 250 points 14 hours ago
They're gonna go through all the 7 stages of grief in these coming times.
接下来的日子里，巴萨球迷会一步一步走完悲伤的七个阶段。（即：否认，痛苦，愤怒，消沉，好转，重建，接受）
[–]【巴萨】SlowAtMaxQ 97 points 10 hours ago
Just went through denial with the Laporta big braining la Liga stuff
我刚经历了第一个阶段，否认拉波尔特那些关于西甲的无稽之谈
[–]【巴萨】N3L00 917 points 13 hours ago
Watching griezmann and dembele miss clear cut chances in must win games is gonna make me realise that we don't have Messi to bail us out. That is gonna when the pain will truly start for me.
目睹格列兹曼和登贝莱在那些必须拿下的比赛中花式吐饼，会让我意识到再也没有梅西来拯救我们于危难之中了。那才是这份痛苦真正开始折磨我的瞬间。
[–]【巴萨】TheRareCase 474 points 10 hours ago
Where would they even get those chances from?
梅西都走了，饼从何来？
[–]【巴萨】feelsPyrite 318 points 10 hours ago
I tought we were trying to avoid full depression? Why must you bring this up lol
你一定要把气氛搞得这么绝望吗？哪壶不开提哪壶
[–]【曼联】3pointrange 66 points 8 hours ago
Growing up in the Messi Iniesta Xavi era makes me really sad to see Messi leave… From Barça and Real Madrid being Messi and Ronaldo to Depay and Vinicius Jr.
Truly the end of an era 😭😭😭
我是在梅西、伊涅斯塔、哈维时代成长起来的，看到梅西的离去真让人感到悲哀……眼瞅着巴萨与皇马从梅西与C罗的较量变成德佩与维尼修斯的交锋。
这真是一个时代的终结 😭😭😭
[–]【皇马】meetrainc 6079 points 15 hours ago
This man terrorized my teenage years and yet this was heartbreaking to watch.
这个男人在我的青春岁月留下了巨大的心理阴影，然而这一幕仍然看得人黯然神伤。
[–]【皇马】Allthingsconsidered- 2019 points 15 hours ago
Same... Never thought I would almost cry over Messi
我也一样……从没想过我也有几乎为梅西落泪的一天
[–]Mesmodeus 144 points 11 hours ago
Me as a real fan when the news came out: hahahaha
Me when I watched the press conference: :,(
作为皇马球迷、听到梅西离队消息的我：哈哈哈哈
看到新闻发布会的我：呜呜呜呜
[–]【皇马】djkamayo 1218 points 15 hours ago
first time the man made me cry without taking a shot
这是这个男人第一次用射门以外的方式让我哭鼻子
[–]【巴萨】aJan_ 649 points 15 hours ago
He made me cry tears of joy whenever he’d take a shot too. But seriously, el clásico is not gonna feel the same at ALL. When Ronaldo left it already lost some of its indescribable passion I guess you could call it. Like you could feel it in the air how momentous of an occasion it was. Now without even Messi? Just doesn’t seem right.
我每次也会被他的射门弄到哭鼻子，但我哭出的是快乐的鼻涕泡。但说真的，国家德比完全回不到从前了。C罗离开后，国家德比那种非言语能描述的激情便消失了不少。那时你甚至都能从空气中嗅到国家德比的庄重感。现在连梅西也走了？这可就不太妙了。
[–]takeiteasymyfriend 304 points 14 hours ago
Real fan here. I am more saddened for Messi today that I was when CR7 left. What is wrong with me?
我是皇马球迷。我今天对梅西的离开甚至比对C罗的离开还要感到难过。我到底怎么了？
[–]【皇马】TomasRoncero 1293 points 15 hours ago
His kids are like “why are these idiots clapping”
梅西的孩子像是在说“这帮白痴到底在鼓什么掌啊？”
[–]RockstarAssassin 806 points 14 hours ago
"also why the fuck is Papa crying??" LMAO
“而且爸爸怎么哭了呢？？”笑死我了
[–]【西悉尼巡游者】AZ_RBB 513 points 13 hours ago
"stopping fucking clapping, it's making Papa cry, you dicks!"
“别特喵鼓掌了，爸爸都被你们弄哭了，你们这帮混蛋！”
[–]RockstarAssassin 124 points 13 hours ago*
More like "why the fuck they clapping when dad is crying?? WTF? They never do that when I cry! World makes no sense to me! I thought everyone here is friends to my dad??"
更像是在疑惑“为什么我爸在哭的时候他们还在鼓掌？？人干事？我哭的时候他们怎么从来不鼓掌？这个世界到底咋地了！我还以为这儿所有人是我爸爸的朋友呢？？”
[–]【利物浦】klutchr7 253 points 15 hours ago
Imagine a full capacity stadium with 100k messi fans giving him a proper farewell
想象一下，整个球场座无虚席，10万名梅西球迷为他送上体面的告别
[–]Its_Stir_Friday 80 points 11 hours ago
They would clap for 20 minutes straight and not bat an eye.
他们会让掌声持续20分钟，眼睛都不带眨一下的。
[–]【埃因霍温】Achato 11 points 10 hours ago
And about a few million people outside the stadium for sure.
而球场外肯定还有数百万人。
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ON：梅西在诺坎普召开告别巴萨发布会
[–]【罗马】Y3llowflash1 291 points 15 hours ago
After already experiencing this with Totti, i feel for the Barca fans, it’s not easy losing your greatest player
作为经历过告别托蒂的过来人，我与巴萨球迷感同身受，失去自家最伟大球员的滋味太苦涩了
[–]【巴萨】Taylannnnn 218 points 15 hours ago
at least you got to see him retire and not pushed out like this 😭😭
好歹你们你们亲眼见证了他退役，而不是像梅西这样被撵出家门 😭😭
[–]【皇马】Deluxe07 14 points 12 hours ago
Totti was kinda pushed out though. They forced him to retire
其实托蒂那会儿也有点被撵出家门的意思。他们强迫他退役。
[–]【巴萨】donandres08 52 points 15 hours ago
Worst thing is neither we nor he wants to go....
最糟糕的在于，离开巴萨这事，无论是我们球迷还是梅西本人都不想发生的……
[–]【巴萨】Nurulyacob 253 points 15 hours ago
Lol Messi just hinted he won't hold back against us if we met hahahahahhah. I can't imagine Messi humiliating Lenglet and Pique lol.
梅西刚刚还暗示说他未来如果和我们交手的话绝不会手下留情，哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。朗格莱和皮克被梅西蹂躏，啧啧，画美不看。
[–]【圣洛伦索】junior150396 179 points 15 hours ago
"Nothing personal boys" * dribbles them out of existence *
“哥几个，没有针对你们的意思哈”然后把他们过了个惨无人道
[–]【皇马】st_huck 94 points 15 hours ago
Probably the only time I was happy for a Messi goal not in the national team was when you played Bayern. Bayern played fairly well, got some chanches, then Messi decided around the 70th minute that's enough and just killed Boateng. A big part of me thought "see Pep, it's not so fun when it happens to you".
I feel liberated, I have two years to enjoy Messi fully, we aren't competitive for the near future anyway.
我唯一一次为梅西的非国家队进球感到高兴，就是看你村踢拜仁那场。拜仁踢得确实很棒，良机颇多，然后梅西在比赛进行到大约70分钟时决定摊牌了，接下来就是博阿滕的名场面。我内心深处在想“瓜帅你瞧见了吧，这种事儿搁你自己身上可就没那么有趣了。”
如今我如释重负，我可以在接下来两年里彻底享受梅西的足球，反正短期内我们不是竞争对手了。
[–]【巴萨】Alex95111 38 points 14 hours ago
Real draws PSG in the last 16
坐等欧冠16进8皇马抽到大巴黎
[–]【切尔西】Ploufy 782 points 15 hours ago
Guy translating is also in tears.
现场负责翻译的那哥们也哭了。
[–]【威尔士】ShagPrince 345 points 15 hours ago
Sounds like he's doing his A-level Spanish listening exam
你这说的像是他在参加西班牙语听力高考一样
[–]【切尔西】honestlynotBG 71 points 15 hours ago
Cheers translator's crying
为翻译哥的眼泪点赞
[–]FalafelGrim2 332 points 15 hours ago
The translator is translating Messi's emotions as well. Even the translator's voice is breaking.
现场翻译甚至把梅西的情绪也翻译出来了。连翻译自己的声音都在颤抖。
[–]【狼队】PakiIronman 1062 points 15 hours ago
"Last year i didn't want to stay and i did, this year i wanted to stay and i couldn't"
Wow, fuck.
“去年我没想留队但我留下来了，今年我想留队但却事与愿违”
哇噢，这事儿闹的。
[–]AccomplishedTune8515 84 points 15 hours ago
Summarises life, pretty much :(.
人生写照，过于生草 :(
[–]Kukka92 112 points 15 hours ago
That hurts :(
太伤人了 :(
[–]Java_Beans 469 points 15 hours ago
Messi to PSG: I will accept with two conditions. All games are to be played in Camp Nou and I will live in Barcelona.
梅西对大巴黎说：应了你可以，但你得答应我两个条件。一是所有比赛都得在诺坎普进行，二是我要住在巴塞罗那。
[–]【阿森纳】hafrances 677 points 15 hours ago
If you like crying you should come to Arsenal
要是你喜欢眼泪的味道，你应该来阿森纳
[–]loveandpeace1996 71 points 15 hours ago
They will offer him 39M+1M euro per year if he come, no joke.
他要来的话，阿森纳会给他开3900万+100万欧元的年薪，不开玩笑。
[–]【巴萨】thebelsnickle1991 522 points 16 hours ago*
Goodbye Leo. Haven’t felt this sad since Ronaldinho’s departure..
再见了，梅西。自从小罗离去后，我还从没这么悲伤过……
[–]【切尔西】honestlynotBG 297 points 16 hours ago
Tbf none of us expected this to go from 0 to 100 real fucking quick in the last few days
讲真，我们谁都没有料到，在这短短几天里，梅西离队的可能性就从0飙升到了100
[–]【阿森纳】Jayveesac 194 points 16 hours ago*
Barca could've done so many things to keep him. To let him walk on to PSG for free because they couldn't pay him underscores how ruined Bartomeu left Barcelona. The damage he did is going to be felt for years
巴萨本该尽一切努力来留住梅西。因为付不起梅西的工资而让他自由身转投大巴黎，这彰显了巴托梅乌给巴萨留下的烂摊子烂到了何种程度。巴托梅乌对俱乐部造成的破坏还将遗患多年。
[–]SwirlingAmbition 105 points 15 hours ago
On the positive side, Barca couldn't rely on Messi forever. Whilst it's not the best way for him to leave, it now forces Barca to push past the "Messi will sort us out" to actually try and bring the next generation through.
Obviously losing him to PSG hurts, and Bartomeu has really caused massive underlying issues, but I think the process needed to happen at some point in the next couple of seasons anyway.
从积极的角度看，巴萨毕竟不能永远依赖梅西。尽管这并不是梅西最理想的离队方式，但同样也能迫使巴萨迈过“总有梅西解决问题”的阶段，真正试着去换血新生。
很显然，眼睁睁送梅西大巴黎会很痛苦，而巴托梅乌则是这一地鸡毛的罪魁祸首，但我觉得这个过程即便现在不来，也会在未来几个赛季的某个时刻到来。
ON：梅西在发布会现场受到全场起立鼓掌
[–]unknown_comicnerd 3289 points 15 hours ago
Bartomeu is condemned to spend the rest of his life in hatred from the people of Catalonia... I can assure you that.
巴托梅乌注定会在加泰罗尼亚人民的仇恨中度过余生……耶稣都留佢唔住，我话嘅。
[–]【巴萨】theTIMEKEEPER_ 1176 points 14 hours ago
I find it hard to believe he cares
很难相信他真的会在乎这个
[–]Critical-Cupcake9194 474 points 12 hours ago
The superleague proposal we had a while ago, is enough indication that these people don't give a fuck about anything but $$$$
此前我们发起的欧超联动议，已经充分表明了他们这帮人除了搞钱压根不在乎任何事情
[–]Fantus 238 points 11 hours ago
Then he's not really good at $$$$, since he allowed the club to get that broke
然而他又实在不擅长搞钱，毕竟在巴托梅乌治下俱乐部都要破产了
[–]ShezSteel 2381 points 15 hours ago
This man deserves the Camp Nou filled for a week just to send him off
这个男人配得上诺坎普球场座无虚席一星期来向他送别
[–]【巴萨】dext3rrr 707 points 14 hours ago
I would be there for a whole week. Could even sleep on the chair.
我愿意在那呆一整周。哪怕睡在椅子上都行。
[–]CarecaPT 336 points 13 hours ago
He deserves to have the stadium named after him today!
他今天配得上一座以他名字命名的球场！
[–]【皇家帕托斯】Jaegaremix 5967 points 15 hours ago*
He played his last game for Barca without the fans who cherished him the most. Unlike Xavi and Iniesta, he didn’t get a proper send off but just the best of what they could give him at the moment. Life can be cruel…
在他身披巴萨球衣的最后一场比赛里，周遭却没有最为珍爱他的球迷环伺。跟哈维和伊涅斯塔不同，他没能尊享体面的欢送，能收获的仅仅是他们此刻能为他送上的最好的礼遇（起立鼓掌）。人生有时候就是这么残酷……
[–]Surfsupforthesummer 3289 points 14 hours ago
I just always assumed he’d retire/leave with 100’s of thousands of people inside and outside Camp Nou. This just feels soo wrong and sad.
在我的一直以来的设想中，他会在足以挤爆诺坎普的数以万计的球迷簇拥下退役或离开。如今的场景让人感觉很不对劲，而且充满悲伤。
[–]elgallogrande 2024 points 14 hours ago
Coming this april: messi and PSG eliminate Barca in CL at camp Nou. Gets a standing ovation.
四月即将上映：欧冠淘汰赛，梅西率大巴黎于诺坎普一举歼灭巴萨。全场起立，掌声雷动。
[–]【阿森纳】elnander 731 points 14 hours ago*
I hope something along these lines does happen, I always pictured Messi's departure from Barça as something that would be so monumental. I hope Barça fans will respect why Messi did what he had to.
我希望现实能按这样的剧本走，我总是在脑海中将梅西与巴萨的道别浮现为一个特别有纪念意义的场景。希望巴萨球迷能尊重梅西做他必须要做之事的原因。
[–]MiNi_MiLiTi 84 points 13 hours ago
Can you explain an outsider why he had to leave.
不懂就问，为什么梅西必须要离开呢？
[–]DrAuer 409 points 13 hours ago
La Liga has a strict wage cap that’s based on revenue from the previous season. La Liga teams will often leave players unregistered for the season so they can still meet the wage gap requirements.
Barca is in really bad debt and the revenues from last year were bad along with really high wage bills from their players. In La Liga you can only have up to 70% of your revenue be your wage bill. With Messi, Barca would be at 110%+. Even if Messi played for 100% free it would only reduce their ratio to something like 90%.
TLDR; Barca broke, pandemic bad, La Liga rules weird
西甲对于球队工资帽有着严格的规定，工资帽的设定是基于球队上赛季的营收。西甲球队经常会采取不给球员在当季注册的方法，好让球队满足工资帽要求。
巴萨的负债情况很严重，而他们去年的收入情况也很糟糕，况且还有球员的天价工资账单。按西甲规定，你的工资帽上限只能是营收额的70%。梅西留队的话，巴萨的工资总额会去到110%以上。就算梅西新赛季为巴萨免费踢球，那他们的工资总额也只是降到90%左右。
太长不看版：巴萨破产，疫情凶猛，西甲规定奇葩。
[–]【曼联】SpicyDragoon93 370 points 15 hours ago
They could always arrange it for him at some point.
他们以后还是可以帮他安排一次告别仪式的。
[–]【巴萨】S3Dzyy 565 points 15 hours ago
Messi said it wouldn't be the same :(
梅西说了，那并不是一回事 :(
[–]【利物浦】TheLimeyLemmon 2275 points 15 hours ago
I don't think the true extent of heartbreak and bitterness has even begun to hit Barca fans. That's going to set in gradually.
But this probably hurts to see, either way.
我觉得巴萨球迷还没有真正开始感受到心碎与痛苦的来袭。这种情绪会慢慢地侵蚀到人的骨子里。
但无论如何，这一幕还是太令人心痛了
[–]【皇马】inno_func 250 points 14 hours ago
They're gonna go through all the 7 stages of grief in these coming times.
接下来的日子里，巴萨球迷会一步一步走完悲伤的七个阶段。（即：否认，痛苦，愤怒，消沉，好转，重建，接受）
[–]【巴萨】SlowAtMaxQ 97 points 10 hours ago
Just went through denial with the Laporta big braining la Liga stuff
我刚经历了第一个阶段，否认拉波尔特那些关于西甲的无稽之谈
[–]【巴萨】N3L00 917 points 13 hours ago
Watching griezmann and dembele miss clear cut chances in must win games is gonna make me realise that we don't have Messi to bail us out. That is gonna when the pain will truly start for me.
目睹格列兹曼和登贝莱在那些必须拿下的比赛中花式吐饼，会让我意识到再也没有梅西来拯救我们于危难之中了。那才是这份痛苦真正开始折磨我的瞬间。
[–]【巴萨】TheRareCase 474 points 10 hours ago
Where would they even get those chances from?
梅西都走了，饼从何来？
[–]【巴萨】feelsPyrite 318 points 10 hours ago
I tought we were trying to avoid full depression? Why must you bring this up lol
你一定要把气氛搞得这么绝望吗？哪壶不开提哪壶
[–]【曼联】3pointrange 66 points 8 hours ago
Growing up in the Messi Iniesta Xavi era makes me really sad to see Messi leave… From Barça and Real Madrid being Messi and Ronaldo to Depay and Vinicius Jr.
Truly the end of an era 😭😭😭
我是在梅西、伊涅斯塔、哈维时代成长起来的，看到梅西的离去真让人感到悲哀……眼瞅着巴萨与皇马从梅西与C罗的较量变成德佩与维尼修斯的交锋。
这真是一个时代的终结 😭😭😭
[–]【皇马】meetrainc 6079 points 15 hours ago
This man terrorized my teenage years and yet this was heartbreaking to watch.
这个男人在我的青春岁月留下了巨大的心理阴影，然而这一幕仍然看得人黯然神伤。
[–]【皇马】Allthingsconsidered- 2019 points 15 hours ago
Same... Never thought I would almost cry over Messi
我也一样……从没想过我也有几乎为梅西落泪的一天
[–]Mesmodeus 144 points 11 hours ago
Me as a real fan when the news came out: hahahaha
Me when I watched the press conference: :,(
作为皇马球迷、听到梅西离队消息的我：哈哈哈哈
看到新闻发布会的我：呜呜呜呜
[–]【皇马】djkamayo 1218 points 15 hours ago
first time the man made me cry without taking a shot
这是这个男人第一次用射门以外的方式让我哭鼻子
[–]【巴萨】aJan_ 649 points 15 hours ago
He made me cry tears of joy whenever he’d take a shot too. But seriously, el clásico is not gonna feel the same at ALL. When Ronaldo left it already lost some of its indescribable passion I guess you could call it. Like you could feel it in the air how momentous of an occasion it was. Now without even Messi? Just doesn’t seem right.
我每次也会被他的射门弄到哭鼻子，但我哭出的是快乐的鼻涕泡。但说真的，国家德比完全回不到从前了。C罗离开后，国家德比那种非言语能描述的激情便消失了不少。那时你甚至都能从空气中嗅到国家德比的庄重感。现在连梅西也走了？这可就不太妙了。
[–]takeiteasymyfriend 304 points 14 hours ago
Real fan here. I am more saddened for Messi today that I was when CR7 left. What is wrong with me?
我是皇马球迷。我今天对梅西的离开甚至比对C罗的离开还要感到难过。我到底怎么了？
[–]【皇马】TomasRoncero 1293 points 15 hours ago
His kids are like “why are these idiots clapping”
梅西的孩子像是在说“这帮白痴到底在鼓什么掌啊？”
[–]RockstarAssassin 806 points 14 hours ago
"also why the fuck is Papa crying??" LMAO
“而且爸爸怎么哭了呢？？”笑死我了
[–]【西悉尼巡游者】AZ_RBB 513 points 13 hours ago
"stopping fucking clapping, it's making Papa cry, you dicks!"
“别特喵鼓掌了，爸爸都被你们弄哭了，你们这帮混蛋！”
[–]RockstarAssassin 124 points 13 hours ago*
More like "why the fuck they clapping when dad is crying?? WTF? They never do that when I cry! World makes no sense to me! I thought everyone here is friends to my dad??"
更像是在疑惑“为什么我爸在哭的时候他们还在鼓掌？？人干事？我哭的时候他们怎么从来不鼓掌？这个世界到底咋地了！我还以为这儿所有人是我爸爸的朋友呢？？”
[–]【利物浦】klutchr7 253 points 15 hours ago
Imagine a full capacity stadium with 100k messi fans giving him a proper farewell
想象一下，整个球场座无虚席，10万名梅西球迷为他送上体面的告别
[–]Its_Stir_Friday 80 points 11 hours ago
They would clap for 20 minutes straight and not bat an eye.
他们会让掌声持续20分钟，眼睛都不带眨一下的。
[–]【埃因霍温】Achato 11 points 10 hours ago
And about a few million people outside the stadium for sure.
而球场外肯定还有数百万人。
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