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你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化
当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访
NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。
NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
  这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 
这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
  而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。
你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化

当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访

NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.

提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?

回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。




NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.

提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。

回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。




NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?

SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.




NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。

回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。




NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.

提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同

回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。




NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
 



这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 



这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
 



而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。










只有在那种环境下才能锻炼出乔丹,现在出了个个哈登

只有在那种环境下才能锻炼出乔丹,现在出了个个哈登

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引用 @Emanon3 发表的:
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你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化
当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访
NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。
NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
  这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 
这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
  而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。
你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化

当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访

NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.

提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?

回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。




NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.

提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。

回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。




NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?

SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.




NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。

回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。




NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.

提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同

回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。




NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
 



这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 



这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
 



而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。










最后一段话真的很认同

最后一段话真的很认同

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现在的节奏快,替补水平更强,但是超巨在哪都是超巨 远古时期除外

现在的节奏快,替补水平更强,但是超巨在哪都是超巨 远古时期除外

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影响得分最重要的因素是节奏我已经说了,而觉得决定节奏的是NBA整体认为防守和进攻在球队成绩提升上的边际效益更大,而影响NBA认知是防守还是进攻更有效益的是规则的改变

影响得分最重要的因素是节奏我已经说了,而觉得决定节奏的是NBA整体认为防守和进攻在球队成绩提升上的边际效益更大,而影响NBA认知是防守还是进攻更有效益的是规则的改变

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去年还没有这么多讨论乔丹的帖子

去年还没有这么多讨论乔丹的帖子

其实我发帖不是讨论乔丹的,只是讨论现在球员篮球技术整体水平是否比80.90年代要好

其实我发帖不是讨论乔丹的,只是讨论现在球员篮球技术整体水平是否比80.90年代要好

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现在的节奏快,替补水平更强,但是超巨在哪都是超巨 远古时期除外

现在的节奏快,替补水平更强,但是超巨在哪都是超巨 远古时期除外

远古时期大帅真的打小朋友一样。那时候人才太少了,后面nba才发展起来

远古时期大帅真的打小朋友一样。那时候人才太少了,后面nba才发展起来

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远古时期大帅真的打小朋友一样。那时候人才太少了,后面nba才发展起来

远古时期大帅真的打小朋友一样。那时候人才太少了,后面nba才发展起来

对啊 要是多些同级别的 就不一样了

对啊 要是多些同级别的 就不一样了

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什么时候国际足联取消守门员可以用手的规定啊,这样足球运动员的个人能力也能得到一次质的飞跃。

什么时候国际足联取消守门员可以用手的规定啊,这样足球运动员的个人能力也能得到一次质的飞跃。

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怎么讨论帮主都是历史第一

怎么讨论帮主都是历史第一

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科比的技术比詹姆斯强,詹姆斯的身体管理不错,这些都是对后辈的影响力

科比的技术比詹姆斯强,詹姆斯的身体管理不错,这些都是对后辈的影响力

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怎么讨论帮主都是历史第一

怎么讨论帮主都是历史第一

可能标题让你误会了,我意思是现代球员整体技术水平是否比乔丹那个年代的球员整体水平高

可能标题让你误会了,我意思是现代球员整体技术水平是否比乔丹那个年代的球员整体水平高

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你只需要相信篮球肯定是在进步就对了。有的技术确实在当代不实用就抛弃了,但其他的一定是比以前好的。

你只需要相信篮球肯定是在进步就对了。有的技术确实在当代不实用就抛弃了,但其他的一定是比以前好的。

然而并不是,只是规则让有些技术受益增加,有些技术收益减少罢了。
然而并不是,只是规则让有些技术受益增加,有些技术收益减少罢了。
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这是必须进步的,很多远古吹一个劲儿否定现在的nba,我是真不知道他们到底看过录像没。就肖华时代裁判把比赛吹的支离破碎恶心人,提高对抗强度比赛会好看很多

这是必须进步的,很多远古吹一个劲儿否定现在的nba,我是真不知道他们到底看过录像没。就肖华时代裁判把比赛吹的支离破碎恶心人,提高对抗强度比赛会好看很多

提高对抗了,比如全明星第四节,你看双方进攻还华丽吗?
提高对抗了,比如全明星第四节,你看双方进攻还华丽吗?
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还真不是,勇士的空间都不强的话?其他队更少了,再对比下当年的公牛,那就是没空间了。。
还真不是,勇士的空间都不强的话?其他队更少了,再对比下当年的公牛,那就是没空间了。。
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