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90年代就出规则帮助外线了,乔丹也是收益人,反正规则改了以后,乔丹进季后赛了,时间点挺尴尬

90年代就出规则帮助外线了,乔丹也是收益人,反正规则改了以后,乔丹进季后赛了,时间点挺尴尬

乔丹80年代就进季后赛了,你这不是在瞎说?
乔丹80年代就进季后赛了,你这不是在瞎说?
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防守强度大???以前都不允许协防包夹,你和我说强度大?别就看了几个恶犯就说强度大

防守强度大???以前都不允许协防包夹,你和我说强度大?别就看了几个恶犯就说强度大

以前不允许协防包夹,你看的哪个星球的篮球?这话都能说的出来?
以前不允许协防包夹,你看的哪个星球的篮球?这话都能说的出来?
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你在搞笑,乔丹那时候包夹协防才多,包夹协防少的是现在
85年季候赛,乔丹191次持球攻击,得到47次1对1,主动包夹和协防包夹频率75.3%
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看看乔丹往中路突破时想突破进去有多困难,多人收缩包夹

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你在搞笑,乔丹那时候包夹协防才多,包夹协防少的是现在

85年季候赛,乔丹191次持球攻击,得到47次1对1,主动包夹和协防包夹频率75.3%

外线包夹



中后场包夹







低位多人包夹收缩



挡拆包夹






看看乔丹往中路突破时想突破进去有多困难,多人收缩包夹









连以前不允许协防包夹都说的出来,你就可以知道他是什么球迷了。。估计火星来的。
连以前不允许协防包夹都说的出来,你就可以知道他是什么球迷了。。估计火星来的。
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90出台的啥规则,恶犯吗?恶犯是除了活塞,全联盟都受益不光乔丹。恶犯前,乔丹一直都进了季后赛。除了恶犯还有啥?

90出台的啥规则,恶犯吗?恶犯是除了活塞,全联盟都受益不光乔丹。恶犯前,乔丹一直都进了季后赛。除了恶犯还有啥?

他瞎扯的。。。
他瞎扯的。。。
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你是不认识字还是啥,区域联防非法是指不能协防包夹吗?那乔丹法则是怎么回事你这么有文化,到底说说看。恶犯跟能不能协防包夹有毛的关系,哟,你看到了恶犯视频却看不到协防包夹,你会打球么

你是不认识字还是啥,区域联防非法是指不能协防包夹吗?那乔丹法则是怎么回事你这么有文化,到底说说看。恶犯跟能不能协防包夹有毛的关系,哟,你看到了恶犯视频却看不到协防包夹,你会打球么

他看的火星篮球,所以以前没有协防包夹,他连区域联防,协防包夹概念都不懂的,还张口烦厚古薄今,他这水平简直不忍直视。
他看的火星篮球,所以以前没有协防包夹,他连区域联防,协防包夹概念都不懂的,还张口烦厚古薄今,他这水平简直不忍直视。
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不觉得现在的球员比90年代强。整体会强,毕竟职业体育引进科学方法以后,普通运动员和顶层运动员的差距是会变小的,但是顶尖的那一批不会。

不觉得现在的球员比90年代强。整体会强,毕竟职业体育引进科学方法以后,普通运动员和顶层运动员的差距是会变小的,但是顶尖的那一批不会。

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那时候的大内线,不说中锋,就马龙罗德曼华莱士巴克利这种,就够你詹姆斯喝一壶的了。

那时候的大内线,不说中锋,就马龙罗德曼华莱士巴克利这种,就够你詹姆斯喝一壶的了。

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笑死,乔丹法则就是在非法协防边缘游走

笑死,乔丹法则就是在非法协防边缘游走

还笑死,可拉倒吧,你连协防包夹和无球包夹,联防的概念都搞不清,还好意思说烦厚古薄今。。你的发言只能让人看到你无脑的厚今薄古。
还笑死,可拉倒吧,你连协防包夹和无球包夹,联防的概念都搞不清,还好意思说烦厚古薄今。。你的发言只能让人看到你无脑的厚今薄古。
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就是看了才这么说,杜兰特没去之前,空间谈不上很好,杜兰特去了还说不强的,那就没什么好说的了。
就是看了才这么说,杜兰特没去之前,空间谈不上很好,杜兰特去了还说不强的,那就没什么好说的了。
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那时候的大内线,不说中锋,就马龙罗德曼华莱士巴克利这种,就够你詹姆斯喝一壶的了。

那时候的大内线,不说中锋,就马龙罗德曼华莱士巴克利这种,就够你詹姆斯喝一壶的了。

牛批,我全篇没提詹姆斯只是在讨论两个时代球员的技术。你就嗯黑

牛批,我全篇没提詹姆斯只是在讨论两个时代球员的技术。你就嗯黑

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你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化
当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访
NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。
NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
  这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 
这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
  而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。
你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化

当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访

NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.

提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?

回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。




NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.

提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。

回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。




NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?

SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.




NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。

回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。




NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.

提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同

回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。




NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
 



这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 



这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
 



而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。










如果当年奥尼尔是场均30+10 现在奥尼尔就得是30+20+10

如果当年奥尼尔是场均30+10 现在奥尼尔就得是30+20+10

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你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化
当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访
NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。
NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
  这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 
这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
  而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。
你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化

当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访

NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.

提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?

回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。




NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.

提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。

回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。




NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?

SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.




NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。

回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。




NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.

提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同

回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。




NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
 



这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 



这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
 



而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。










不错,干货,现在虎扑新球迷有时候发的帖子完全就是蹭流量的。

不错,干货,现在虎扑新球迷有时候发的帖子完全就是蹭流量的。

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包夹到底对无球人还是持球人非法都搞不清楚,还叫嚣起来了,自己没理硬扛了是吧。老子爱看男人热血咋呢,看乔丹中投不比现在的好看?你要不是男的当我没说

包夹到底对无球人还是持球人非法都搞不清楚,还叫嚣起来了,自己没理硬扛了是吧。老子爱看男人热血咋呢,看乔丹中投不比现在的好看?你要不是男的当我没说

行,是我学艺不精,不过你真是看过乔丹直播还是单单看个集锦?

行,是我学艺不精,不过你真是看过乔丹直播还是单单看个集锦?

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技术,理念,平均身体水平一定是越来越进步的

技术,理念,平均身体水平一定是越来越进步的

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说真的你和尬黑的人也区别不到哪去,首先是球迷讨论,不是球员不尊重前辈,这是两个概念。另外,动不动乔丹来了也不行,讲的是某个系列赛,没人会说乔丹来到这个时代不会获得成功。还有,规则改变优化进攻,但是明显的事现在的篮球比赛,技战术是在进步,说篮球在进步本质上也没什么问题。最后,大部分的情况下,远古吹喷现代篮球垃圾会比较多,那个时候,你会来说球迷不尊重现代篮球职业运动员嘛?

说真的你和尬黑的人也区别不到哪去,首先是球迷讨论,不是球员不尊重前辈,这是两个概念。另外,动不动乔丹来了也不行,讲的是某个系列赛,没人会说乔丹来到这个时代不会获得成功。还有,规则改变优化进攻,但是明显的事现在的篮球比赛,技战术是在进步,说篮球在进步本质上也没什么问题。最后,大部分的情况下,远古吹喷现代篮球垃圾会比较多,那个时候,你会来说球迷不尊重现代篮球职业运动员嘛?

还真不是,一堆人在质疑mj的功力。

“乔丹不会三分球,收缩下就得不了分了”。
“乔丹只会右手,好防”。

就这蠢话经常能看见。

还真不是,一堆人在质疑mj的功力。

“乔丹不会三分球,收缩下就得不了分了”。
“乔丹只会右手,好防”。

就这蠢话经常能看见。

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