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我是象棋和nba爱好者
象棋和nba有一点很像 就是最新的时代比以前的整体技战术要更加优秀一些
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象棋和nba有一点很像 就是最新的时代比以前的整体技战术要更加优秀一些
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我是象棋和nba爱好者象棋和nba有一点很像 就是最新的时代比以前的整体技战术要更加优秀一些
我是象棋和nba爱好者
象棋和nba有一点很像 就是最新的时代比以前的整体技战术要更加优秀一些

象棋我门外汉不太懂,我只是相信时代会进步,球员球技也会越来越好

象棋我门外汉不太懂,我只是相信时代会进步,球员球技也会越来越好

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主要是吹罚尺度不一样,双方必然都不适应对方的吹罚!纯技术肯定是现代篮球高。
主要是吹罚尺度不一样,双方必然都不适应对方的吹罚!纯技术肯定是现代篮球高。
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我甚至看过黑白颜色的远古集锦,那些人运球都不太流畅,大帅像打小朋友一样。我认为从篮球史来看各方面都是一直进步。对比80.90年代如今内线弱了,外线强了

我甚至看过黑白颜色的远古集锦,那些人运球都不太流畅,大帅像打小朋友一样。我认为从篮球史来看各方面都是一直进步。对比80.90年代如今内线弱了,外线强了

刺客比赛时的运球好不好看,你再去看看他训练时的球感,有些东西受制于当时的规则和时代,没办法完全展现的。远的不说,就90年代,基本上篮球技术算是开发的差不多了,你说现代篮球比当时多了哪些新技术呢?但是侧重点不同,观念不同会影响整个场上的发挥。那个时候重视的是内线得分技巧,低位技术,篮下得分手段,中距离得分手段是主流,哪怕是板凳内线,都会一手扎实的内线进攻脚步,你看看现在哪个内线练这个。那时候的进攻发起点很多都是低位和高位,所以外线球员不会去三分线附近做过多的运球动作,直接背身把球传到位就好了。所以好像会觉得当年那些后卫真不行,运球技术差,都喜欢拿屁股对人,但真的打起来,那些控卫还真能一屁股一屁股把你坐死,具体可以看看当年米勒打球,这就是比较传统的控卫。这就像当年的联盟不迷信三分,觉得三分杀不死人,直到库里出现,再一次改变了篮球运动,三分作为战术发起点直接创造了非常多的进攻可能性。所以很多东西不是技术的问题,而是理念以及当下规则的影响形成的。当然,你要说远古和现在的球员比身体,那肯定是会有明显的进步的,这一点毋庸置疑。但对于那些超级球星来说,本身就是天赋异禀,放在任何一个时代,适应之后同样会是超级巨星。

刺客比赛时的运球好不好看,你再去看看他训练时的球感,有些东西受制于当时的规则和时代,没办法完全展现的。远的不说,就90年代,基本上篮球技术算是开发的差不多了,你说现代篮球比当时多了哪些新技术呢?但是侧重点不同,观念不同会影响整个场上的发挥。那个时候重视的是内线得分技巧,低位技术,篮下得分手段,中距离得分手段是主流,哪怕是板凳内线,都会一手扎实的内线进攻脚步,你看看现在哪个内线练这个。那时候的进攻发起点很多都是低位和高位,所以外线球员不会去三分线附近做过多的运球动作,直接背身把球传到位就好了。所以好像会觉得当年那些后卫真不行,运球技术差,都喜欢拿屁股对人,但真的打起来,那些控卫还真能一屁股一屁股把你坐死,具体可以看看当年米勒打球,这就是比较传统的控卫。这就像当年的联盟不迷信三分,觉得三分杀不死人,直到库里出现,再一次改变了篮球运动,三分作为战术发起点直接创造了非常多的进攻可能性。所以很多东西不是技术的问题,而是理念以及当下规则的影响形成的。当然,你要说远古和现在的球员比身体,那肯定是会有明显的进步的,这一点毋庸置疑。但对于那些超级球星来说,本身就是天赋异禀,放在任何一个时代,适应之后同样会是超级巨星。

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以前是防守球员去阻止进攻球员的行进,现在是防守球员去躲避进攻球员非行进,真是搞笑

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你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化
当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访
NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。
NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
  这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 
这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
  而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。
你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化

当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访

NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.

提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?

回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。




NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.

提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。

回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。




NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?

SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.




NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。

回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。




NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.

提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同

回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。




NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
 



这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 



这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
 



而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。










以前是防守球员去阻止进攻球员的行进,现在是防守球员去躲避进攻球员非行进,真是搞笑

以前是防守球员去阻止进攻球员的行进,现在是防守球员去躲避进攻球员非行进,真是搞笑

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90年代打球更多的球员是用基本功,当然华丽的运球打法也是有的,更多的集中在96黄金一代身上,把街球的各种动作华丽实战化。 不能说基本功打球就是差,你觉得邓肯打球差吗?早先邓肯打球许多年轻小伙子都不喜欢看,因为太枯燥了。 现在的进步是许多招式使用频繁,结合了之前人的方式,另外就是规则的统一,比如哈登的后撤步就是012,詹姆斯许多进入篮下也是012. 比以前进步最明显的就是三分,毕竟三分引入的时候许多80 ,90年代的球员大学都没接触,或者刚刚接触。 但你要把90年代球员放到现在打,肯定有学习时期,比如大家都是新秀,他们依然不会差,甚至有天赋的会更加好。 你可以看到如果90年代组队那是什么阵容? 四大中锋我就不说了,后卫前锋/摇摆阵容都有dpoy,得分上90年代所缺的是没有现在频繁的三分战术,以及三分投射次数,但是理念跟上即可,这并不是什么难事。 詹姆斯投篮能力有段时期不被看好,但之后呢,我觉得没人敢放。 所以对比以前球员你不能直接空降,本身后人就是学了前人的东西,首先要放到一个时间段去历练这种对比才是公平的。
90年代打球更多的球员是用基本功,当然华丽的运球打法也是有的,更多的集中在96黄金一代身上,把街球的各种动作华丽实战化。



不能说基本功打球就是差,你觉得邓肯打球差吗?早先邓肯打球许多年轻小伙子都不喜欢看,因为太枯燥了。





现在的进步是许多招式使用频繁,结合了之前人的方式,另外就是规则的统一,比如哈登的后撤步就是012,詹姆斯许多进入篮下也是012.








比以前进步最明显的就是三分,毕竟三分引入的时候许多80 ,90年代的球员大学都没接触,或者刚刚接触。





但你要把90年代球员放到现在打,肯定有学习时期,比如大家都是新秀,他们依然不会差,甚至有天赋的会更加好。





你可以看到如果90年代组队那是什么阵容?



四大中锋我就不说了,后卫前锋/摇摆阵容都有dpoy,得分上90年代所缺的是没有现在频繁的三分战术,以及三分投射次数,但是理念跟上即可,这并不是什么难事。



詹姆斯投篮能力有段时期不被看好,但之后呢,我觉得没人敢放。





所以对比以前球员你不能直接空降,本身后人就是学了前人的东西,首先要放到一个时间段去历练这种对比才是公平的。

以前是防守球员去阻止进攻球员的行进,现在是防守球员去躲避进攻球员非行进,真是搞笑

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著名乔吹上线了。 他就是看似很有道理。 实际上胡搅蛮缠的人。 现在的球员。运球。投射。无球跑位。战术执行都明显好货90年代

著名乔吹上线了。 他就是看似很有道理。 实际上胡搅蛮缠的人。 现在的球员。运球。投射。无球跑位。战术执行都明显好货90年代

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任何流行的体育项目都是在进步的。

任何流行的体育项目都是在进步的。

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你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化
当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访
NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。
NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
  这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 
这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
  而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。
你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化

当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访

NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.

提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?

回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。




NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.

提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。

回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。




NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?

SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.




NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。

回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。




NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.

提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同

回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。




NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
 



这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 



这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
 



而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。










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结论:肯定是现代篮球厉害就完事啊!为什么为什么为什么?因为现代篮球有詹姆斯呀!詹姆斯如果和乔丹换位,你们信不信詹姆斯至少10连贯 10FMVP 20得分王 。。。。 乔丹要是到当代东部打不过首轮别说夺冠了吧!🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶

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整体球员水平和技战术进步是肯定的,超巨断代也是肯定的。
90年代是超巨涌现和新老衔接最好的时代。
前有乔丹,四大,巴克利,马龙后有科,AI,麦,邓肯,KG。这还不算韦博,雨人,希尔,哈达威这种巅峰夭折的。
抛开技术和规则层面,就是光身体层面,00后10后也没有这么多超巨级别的。
整体球员水平和技战术进步是肯定的,超巨断代也是肯定的。
90年代是超巨涌现和新老衔接最好的时代。
前有乔丹,四大,巴克利,马龙后有科,AI,麦,邓肯,KG。这还不算韦博,雨人,希尔,哈达威这种巅峰夭折的。
抛开技术和规则层面,就是光身体层面,00后10后也没有这么多超巨级别的。
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你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化
当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访
NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。
NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
  这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 
这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
  而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。
你想知道为何比赛风格会改变, NBA官方告诉你,他们制定规则,他们清楚改规则后的风格变化

当时制定规则联盟副总裁斯图杰克逊的采访

NBA.com: Since the hand-checking rule was interpreted differently beginning in the 2004-05 season, the game has opened up. Players are penetrating and the floor is spread. As a result, scoring has risen every season. Was this anticipated back in 2004?

SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow for more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or body-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration. As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball handler as well as shots for teammates on passes back out to perimeter. When NBA players get higher quality shots -- having more time to shoot -- they tend to make more of them.

提问:自从04~05年修改规则 ,比赛变的开放,球员们开放式的突破,结果来说,分数每年都在增加,这些在04年都被预计到了么?

回答:不,增加得分并不是我们的目的。我们的目的在通过禁止球员用手,前臂,身体顶防运球者从而给于进攻更多的自由。通过这些,我们鼓励更多的突破。而当球员更多的突破,就能给运球者回传给外线的射手提供更高质量的投篮机会。当球员们得到更高质量的投篮以及有更多的时间准备投篮,他们会投进更多。




NBA.com: Shooting percentages have risen since 2004-05 regardless of location -- at-the-rim shots, short- and deep-mid range and 3-pointers. Does this surprise you, especially the higher percentages from 3-point range?

SJ: It doesn't. With the rule and interpretation changes, it has become more difficult for defenders to defend penetration, cover the entire floor on defensive rotations and recover to shooters. This has provided more time for shooters to ready themselves for quality shots. With more dribble penetration, ball handlers are getting more opportunities at the rim. Additionally, teams now realize the 3-point shot is a great competitive equalizer, so they are taking more; they have improved their skill level on threes and are making them at a higher rate.

提问:自从修改规则后,篮下,近距离投篮和三分的命中率都提升了。这是否让你感到惊讶,特别是 三分命中率。

回答:不,随着规则的改变,防守突破要难的多,防守轮转到位也困难的多。这让射手有更多的时间调整投篮高质量的完成他们。随着更多的突破,控球手们获得更多攻击篮下的机会。而球队现在意识到三分是个追分利器,所以他们投的更多了。他们提高了三分。




NBA.com: The number of 3-point attempts has risen since the 2004-05 season, more so than the mid-range shots. Is this a positive development?

SJ: It depends on your perspective. We feel the 3-point shot has been an exciting play for our game and has put a premium on having skill players with an all-around game.




NBA.com: Doesn't the wide-open style benefit certain types of players? For example, wing players vs. frontcourt players?

SJ: The benefits of an open game are not limited to just perimeter players. An open game can benefit a post player as well. Remember, if the players are spaced wider and using more of the court, then defenses have to play those players closely because they're good shooters. The style actually serves to open up the middle of the floor. If a team has an effective post player, he would have more room to operate in the post.

提问:现在的风格是否让某些特型球员受益?举个例子,侧翼和前场球员。

回答:它不只让外线球员受益。现在的比赛也让低位球员同样受易。记得么,如果球员空间拉开更大,更利用球场空间。防守就会扩的更外,因为他们是好的射手。这样就会让中路空间更大。如果一只球队有个好的低位选手,他就有更多的空间在低位单打。




NBA.com: From an Xs and Os perspective, how have coaches adjusted to a more wide-open game? What have they done differently?

SJ: Coaches have utilized more space on the floor so to create more room for dribble penetration, two-man pick-and-roll basketball and dribble exchanges on the perimeter. But to do that, they have attempted to place the right personnel on the floor -- more shooters and ball handlers that require defenses to play those players on the perimeter.

提问:在现在的环境下,教练们会怎么样调整?他们现在做的有哪些不同

回答:教练已经开始利用现在规则上能拉开更多的空间的优势设计更多更好拉开空间的突破战术,2人当差。不过要执行这些,他们必须有正确的配置-更多的射手和控球者。




NBA官方说的很清楚,削弱外线对抗,让突破更自由导致轮转更难,需要更多补,而更多补又会造成更多外线空档,难以轮转,给外线投篮巨大空档,为了利用好这种突破+巨大空档的优势,所以在配置上更多用三分射手,同时在战术上更多的用挡拆。
 



这么一来二去,三分射手又反过来回馈单打手和突破手,让他们有更多的1对1和空间。 



这才是前因后果和逻辑原因,给外线打法开绿灯,是一切的源头和开始。
 



而为何给外线开绿灯,就是乔丹在90年代的成功,让nba想持续让这种外线成功持续留在nba,持续吸引球迷,持续维持巨大的市场和经济利益。










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引用 @最爱格林给自己过生日的兰特 发表的:
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你们还一本正经的讨论呀?不看看楼主ID谁球迷啊?结论:肯定是现代篮球厉害就完事啊!为什么为什么为什么?因为现代篮球有詹姆斯呀!詹姆斯如果和乔丹换位,你们信不信詹姆斯至少10连贯 10FMVP 20得分王 。。。。 乔丹要是到当代东部打不过首轮别说夺冠了吧!🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶

你们还一本正经的讨论呀?不看看楼主ID谁球迷啊?

结论:肯定是现代篮球厉害就完事啊!为什么为什么为什么?因为现代篮球有詹姆斯呀!詹姆斯如果和乔丹换位,你们信不信詹姆斯至少10连贯 10FMVP 20得分王 。。。。 乔丹要是到当代东部打不过首轮别说夺冠了吧!🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶

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规则的改变让你感觉以前难看,首先最近一次是外线防守限制了前臂推人的动作,让突破更容易。还有在这之前,翻腕,走步吹的松了,动作更流畅。艾弗森以前动作都在翻腕的边缘,早期比赛经常有吹。

规则的改变让你感觉以前难看,首先最近一次是外线防守限制了前臂推人的动作,让突破更容易。还有在这之前,翻腕,走步吹的松了,动作更流畅。艾弗森以前动作都在翻腕的边缘,早期比赛经常有吹。

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引用 @新城第一扣将 发表的:
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我甚至看过黑白颜色的远古集锦,那些人运球都不太流畅,大帅像打小朋友一样。我认为从篮球史来看各方面都是一直进步。对比80.90年代如今内线弱了,外线强了

我甚至看过黑白颜色的远古集锦,那些人运球都不太流畅,大帅像打小朋友一样。我认为从篮球史来看各方面都是一直进步。对比80.90年代如今内线弱了,外线强了

现在的人去黑白时代那会走步和翻腕得被吹死。

现在的人去黑白时代那会走步和翻腕得被吹死。

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