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这个要看排名的标准,如果是当下即战力,穆鸟这个排名就合理。如果是现役教练历史排名高低,那穆鸟就低了。但很显然这个榜单排的是当下即战力!

这个要看排名的标准,如果是当下即战力,穆鸟这个排名就合理。如果是现役教练历史排名高低,那穆鸟就低了。

但很显然这个榜单排的是当下即战力!

当下战力。。什么事当下战力?一年的成绩?两年的成绩?还是所在球队的战力?而且你看啥时候有评选当前教练员能力的评比?

当下战力。。什么事当下战力?一年的成绩?两年的成绩?还是所在球队的战力?而且你看啥时候有评选当前教练员能力的评比?

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当下战力。。什么事当下战力?一年的成绩?两年的成绩?还是所在球队的战力?而且你看啥时候有评选当前教练员能力的评比?

当下战力。。什么事当下战力?一年的成绩?两年的成绩?还是所在球队的战力?而且你看啥时候有评选当前教练员能力的评比?

这个就是啊,你不愿承认罢了!

当下战力就是现在5大联赛前四球队没有再找穆鸟,排17都是看他以往战绩给面子了!

这个就是啊,你不愿承认罢了!

当下战力就是现在5大联赛前四球队没有再找穆鸟,排17都是看他以往战绩给面子了!

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他在皇马和切尔西遇到的始终是同样的问题,你不如说正是他从一开始对待更衣室的处理方式,才导致他最后注定被更衣室背刺。他是真的很喜欢捧着超巨性格的球员,放任更衣室的团体出现。等到球队成绩不佳,他也不会担责,第一时间开炮俱乐部,开炮球员,找内鬼。这种模式不出现“内鬼”才有鬼

他在皇马和切尔西遇到的始终是同样的问题,你不如说正是他从一开始对待更衣室的处理方式,才导致他最后注定被更衣室背刺。他是真的很喜欢捧着超巨性格的球员,放任更衣室的团体出现。等到球队成绩不佳,他也不会担责,第一时间开炮俱乐部,开炮球员,找内鬼。这种模式不出现“内鬼”才有鬼

皇马真的跟你说的那些没啥关系。在皇马干掉的是卡西,但是卡西下来之后的确是一落千丈。他在皇马就想着拥有决策权了,这才是他被开的原因,弗洛伦蒂诺不会允许另一个话语权出现。在曼联,博格巴是球队买入的,跟他没啥关系。博格巴当时踢的的确是大爷球,愿意的时候世界级,不愿意,中国队。穆鸟要开掉这仨刺头,曼联不论高层还是弗爵爷两边都不支持,也是不愿意给话语权,即便带着拐杖天团拿下了后弗格森时代最好成绩,依旧下课,这也谈不上是内鬼了,这是明着的鬼,只是鬼的支持比较有力。穆鸟从执教能力到看人选人,能力都是顶级的,说他执教能力菜那是啥水平的球迷大家都有数。他的菜主要是太狂,从欧足联到各国裁判都跟他有仇,举个例子,本来曼联是最受优待的队,他去了就大变样。足球不是篮球,一次不公正的判罚就足以改变比赛进程。穆鸟这个不能吃亏的嘴跟性格是他的弱点。除此之外都是扯淡

皇马真的跟你说的那些没啥关系。在皇马干掉的是卡西,但是卡西下来之后的确是一落千丈。他在皇马就想着拥有决策权了,这才是他被开的原因,弗洛伦蒂诺不会允许另一个话语权出现。在曼联,博格巴是球队买入的,跟他没啥关系。博格巴当时踢的的确是大爷球,愿意的时候世界级,不愿意,中国队。穆鸟要开掉这仨刺头,曼联不论高层还是弗爵爷两边都不支持,也是不愿意给话语权,即便带着拐杖天团拿下了后弗格森时代最好成绩,依旧下课,这也谈不上是内鬼了,这是明着的鬼,只是鬼的支持比较有力。穆鸟从执教能力到看人选人,能力都是顶级的,说他执教能力菜那是啥水平的球迷大家都有数。他的菜主要是太狂,从欧足联到各国裁判都跟他有仇,举个例子,本来曼联是最受优待的队,他去了就大变样。足球不是篮球,一次不公正的判罚就足以改变比赛进程。穆鸟这个不能吃亏的嘴跟性格是他的弱点。除此之外都是扯淡

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像刚看球的

像刚看球的

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这按成就评的?穆17?他那些冠军打个对折这榜单有几个人达到过啊?搞笑来的吗?

这按成就评的?穆17?他那些冠军打个对折这榜单有几个人达到过啊?搞笑来的吗?

明显按现在的能力排的啊……鸟现在都只能执教土超了,排17估计都是多少看了点过去成就的份儿上

明显按现在的能力排的啊……鸟现在都只能执教土超了,排17估计都是多少看了点过去成就的份儿上

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当下战力。。什么事当下战力?一年的成绩?两年的成绩?还是所在球队的战力?而且你看啥时候有评选当前教练员能力的评比?

当下战力。。什么事当下战力?一年的成绩?两年的成绩?还是所在球队的战力?而且你看啥时候有评选当前教练员能力的评比?

你看阿尔特塔和阿隆索排这么前面,就应该知道,这个就是只看近期的执教成绩了。

你看阿尔特塔和阿隆索排这么前面,就应该知道,这个就是只看近期的执教成绩了。

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An initial group of 70-odd names was narrowed down to 50 before I brought together a host of people working in the football industry -- coaches, sporting directors, CEOs and chief scouts -- for added input.

In an effort to emulate how professional clubs often draw up a long list when considering a new hire, the final 50 have been rated on six attributes from which the total score constitutes the position.

Coaching acumen: The ability to apply coaching principles to a match setting, physical preparation and in-game management.

Style:The attractiveness of the footballing style. Entertainment value is paramount here, as is a manager's capability to dictate the proceedings of a game in a proactive (as opposed to reactive, i.e,. play on the break) manner. Inevitably, an attacking style will produce a higher score.

People management: Motivational skills and the capacity to get maximum performance out of a squad. The degree to which players appear to respond to and "play for" the manager.

Communication:The extent to which a manager is capable of instilling trust in their "project" internally, to club directors and players, and to the outside world (media, supporters). Their expertise of conveying a message clearly, through well-chosen words and PR skills.

History/achievements: Success and results.Though trophies are the main currency of achievement in football, other accomplishments such as winning promotion, getting teams out of relegation trouble, taking unfancied sides into Europe or overperforming on small resources count too.

X factor: Ability to surprise and come up with new ideas. The likelihood of being considered for top jobs in the future. The resilience to bounce back from a poor run of results.

Notes:

Only managers with at least one full season in charge of a first team were considered (Roma's Daniele De Rossi misses out), while those who have been out of work for two years or more (Zinedine Zidane) were excluded. No national team managers were included as it's not a like-for-like comparison with the domestic game.

To keep the ranking as current as possible, past achievements (and X factor, which is arguably the least tangible category) are given less emphasis with ratings out of 10 instead of 20.

When managers' total scores are equal, the score for past achievements decides the rank. If still level, X factor breaks the tie.

The terms "manager" and "head coach" have been used casually throughout the piece, but if you want my definition of either role, click

here

.

All stats are correct as of Aug. 12.

我觉得不具体翻译标准的,这种贴真的会引战的

An initial group of 70-odd names was narrowed down to 50 before I brought together a host of people working in the football industry -- coaches, sporting directors, CEOs and chief scouts -- for added input.

In an effort to emulate how professional clubs often draw up a long list when considering a new hire, the final 50 have been rated on six attributes from which the total score constitutes the position.

Coaching acumen: The ability to apply coaching principles to a match setting, physical preparation and in-game management.

Style:The attractiveness of the footballing style. Entertainment value is paramount here, as is a manager's capability to dictate the proceedings of a game in a proactive (as opposed to reactive, i.e,. play on the break) manner. Inevitably, an attacking style will produce a higher score.

People management: Motivational skills and the capacity to get maximum performance out of a squad. The degree to which players appear to respond to and "play for" the manager.

Communication:The extent to which a manager is capable of instilling trust in their "project" internally, to club directors and players, and to the outside world (media, supporters). Their expertise of conveying a message clearly, through well-chosen words and PR skills.

History/achievements: Success and results.Though trophies are the main currency of achievement in football, other accomplishments such as winning promotion, getting teams out of relegation trouble, taking unfancied sides into Europe or overperforming on small resources count too.

X factor: Ability to surprise and come up with new ideas. The likelihood of being considered for top jobs in the future. The resilience to bounce back from a poor run of results.

Notes:

Only managers with at least one full season in charge of a first team were considered (Roma's Daniele De Rossi misses out), while those who have been out of work for two years or more (Zinedine Zidane) were excluded. No national team managers were included as it's not a like-for-like comparison with the domestic game.

To keep the ranking as current as possible, past achievements (and X factor, which is arguably the least tangible category) are given less emphasis with ratings out of 10 instead of 20.

When managers' total scores are equal, the score for past achievements decides the rank. If still level, X factor breaks the tie.

The terms "manager" and "head coach" have been used casually throughout the piece, but if you want my definition of either role, click

here

.

All stats are correct as of Aug. 12.

我觉得不具体翻译标准的,这种贴真的会引战的

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An initial group of 70-odd names was narrowed down to 50 before I brought together a host of people working in the football industry -- coaches, sporting directors, CEOs and chief scouts -- for added input.

In an effort to emulate how professional clubs often draw up a long list when considering a new hire, the final 50 have been rated on six attributes from which the total score constitutes the position.

Coaching acumen: The ability to apply coaching principles to a match setting, physical preparation and in-game management.

Style:The attractiveness of the footballing style. Entertainment value is paramount here, as is a manager's capability to dictate the proceedings of a game in a proactive (as opposed to reactive, i.e,. play on the break) manner. Inevitably, an attacking style will produce a higher score.

People management: Motivational skills and the capacity to get maximum performance out of a squad. The degree to which players appear to respond to and "play for" the manager.

Communication:The extent to which a manager is capable of instilling trust in their "project" internally, to club directors and players, and to the outside world (media, supporters). Their expertise of conveying a message clearly, through well-chosen words and PR skills.

History/achievements: Success and results.Though trophies are the main currency of achievement in football, other accomplishments such as winning promotion, getting teams out of relegation trouble, taking unfancied sides into Europe or overperforming on small resources count too.

X factor: Ability to surprise and come up with new ideas. The likelihood of being considered for top jobs in the future. The resilience to bounce back from a poor run of results.

Notes:

Only managers with at least one full season in charge of a first team were considered (Roma's Daniele De Rossi misses out), while those who have been out of work for two years or more (Zinedine Zidane) were excluded. No national team managers were included as it's not a like-for-like comparison with the domestic game.

To keep the ranking as current as possible, past achievements (and X factor, which is arguably the least tangible category) are given less emphasis with ratings out of 10 instead of 20.

When managers' total scores are equal, the score for past achievements decides the rank. If still level, X factor breaks the tie.

The terms "manager" and "head coach" have been used casually throughout the piece, but if you want my definition of either role, click

here

.

All stats are correct as of Aug. 12.

我觉得不具体翻译标准的,这种贴真的会引战的

An initial group of 70-odd names was narrowed down to 50 before I brought together a host of people working in the football industry -- coaches, sporting directors, CEOs and chief scouts -- for added input.

In an effort to emulate how professional clubs often draw up a long list when considering a new hire, the final 50 have been rated on six attributes from which the total score constitutes the position.

Coaching acumen: The ability to apply coaching principles to a match setting, physical preparation and in-game management.

Style:The attractiveness of the footballing style. Entertainment value is paramount here, as is a manager's capability to dictate the proceedings of a game in a proactive (as opposed to reactive, i.e,. play on the break) manner. Inevitably, an attacking style will produce a higher score.

People management: Motivational skills and the capacity to get maximum performance out of a squad. The degree to which players appear to respond to and "play for" the manager.

Communication:The extent to which a manager is capable of instilling trust in their "project" internally, to club directors and players, and to the outside world (media, supporters). Their expertise of conveying a message clearly, through well-chosen words and PR skills.

History/achievements: Success and results.Though trophies are the main currency of achievement in football, other accomplishments such as winning promotion, getting teams out of relegation trouble, taking unfancied sides into Europe or overperforming on small resources count too.

X factor: Ability to surprise and come up with new ideas. The likelihood of being considered for top jobs in the future. The resilience to bounce back from a poor run of results.

Notes:

Only managers with at least one full season in charge of a first team were considered (Roma's Daniele De Rossi misses out), while those who have been out of work for two years or more (Zinedine Zidane) were excluded. No national team managers were included as it's not a like-for-like comparison with the domestic game.

To keep the ranking as current as possible, past achievements (and X factor, which is arguably the least tangible category) are given less emphasis with ratings out of 10 instead of 20.

When managers' total scores are equal, the score for past achievements decides the rank. If still level, X factor breaks the tie.

The terms "manager" and "head coach" have been used casually throughout the piece, but if you want my definition of either role, click

here

.

All stats are correct as of Aug. 12.

我觉得不具体翻译标准的,这种贴真的会引战的

按这个标准,我更加看不出塔子排阿隆索前面的理由了,塔子所有的强项阿隆索都不输甚至更强,比如:激励性,沟通力;塔子的弱项阿隆索也很强,比如:观赏性。塔子唯一强于阿隆索的工龄,并没有列为评判标准

按这个标准,我更加看不出塔子排阿隆索前面的理由了,塔子所有的强项阿隆索都不输甚至更强,比如:激励性,沟通力;塔子的弱项阿隆索也很强,比如:观赏性。塔子唯一强于阿隆索的工龄,并没有列为评判标准

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那赛季开始前大多数预测阿森纳最终排第五现在93%冠军反而成丢人了

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那赛季开始前大多数预测阿森纳最终排第五
现在93%冠军反而成丢人了

93冠军是因为这个嘲讽?没体验过 阿森纳嘴脸?一直嘲讽其他人?

93冠军是因为这个嘲讽?没体验过 阿森纳嘴脸?一直嘲讽其他人?

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常识:鸟之前波尔图有欧冠

常识:鸟之前波尔图有欧冠

那也不否认鸟那年欧冠的强悍啊,就像诺丁汉森林以前有欧冠,现在来个教练给诺丁汉带来一个欧冠,他绝对能跻身传奇名帅

那也不否认鸟那年欧冠的强悍啊,就像诺丁汉森林以前有欧冠,现在来个教练给诺丁汉带来一个欧冠,他绝对能跻身传奇名帅

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穆里尼奥带波尔图拿欧冠不更伟大嘛

穆里尼奥带波尔图拿欧冠不更伟大嘛

是的,魔力鸟在波尔图、国际米兰都很伟大,但他过气了,已即将成为足球历史的一部分。

是的,魔力鸟在波尔图、国际米兰都很伟大,但他过气了,已即将成为足球历史的一部分。

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安切洛蒂不是第一我不服!

安切洛蒂不是第一我不服!

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虽然我认为阿隆索排第五也太高了,但是阿特塔凭啥排阿隆索前面?工龄长吗?

虽然我认为阿隆索排第五也太高了,但是阿特塔凭啥排阿隆索前面?工龄长吗?

塔子哥什么时候带队拿个联赛冠军再来和孔二愣子比吧

塔子哥什么时候带队拿个联赛冠军再来和孔二愣子比吧

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鸟迷是真的一个比一个刁,一副世人皆醉我独醒的样子,天天一己之力对抗全世界,还不让人说

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鸟迷是真的一个比一个刁,一副世人皆醉我独醒的样子,天天一己之力对抗全世界,还不让人说

我可不是鸟迷,就是喜欢喷那个专门黑人的屌毛而已

我可不是鸟迷,就是喜欢喷那个专门黑人的屌毛而已

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我可不是鸟迷,就是喜欢喷那个专门黑人的屌毛而已

我可不是鸟迷,就是喜欢喷那个专门黑人的屌毛而已

您直接说瓜迪奥拉球迷留还直接点,装什么呀

您直接说瓜迪奥拉球迷留还直接点,装什么呀

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您直接说瓜迪奥拉球迷留还直接点,装什么呀

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您直接说瓜迪奥拉球迷留还直接点,装什么呀

所以说,总有人去瞎猜。我只可能去无脑粉米兰的球员教练,不会去粉别人。瓜娃子我更不会去粉他

所以说,总有人去瞎猜。我只可能去无脑粉米兰的球员教练,不会去粉别人。瓜娃子我更不会去粉他

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所以说,总有人去瞎猜。我只可能去无脑粉米兰的球员教练,不会去粉别人。瓜娃子我更不会去粉他

所以说,总有人去瞎猜。我只可能去无脑粉米兰的球员教练,不会去粉别人。瓜娃子我更不会去粉他

味太冲了

味太冲了

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是的,魔力鸟在波尔图、国际米兰都很伟大,但他过气了,已即将成为足球历史的一部分。

是的,魔力鸟在波尔图、国际米兰都很伟大,但他过气了,已即将成为足球历史的一部分。

在车子就不伟大了吗?

在车子就不伟大了吗?

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排的教练目前情况,又不是历史排名

排的教练目前情况,又不是历史排名

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