【传声筒】外网狼区热议:芬奇上任二周年
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Best coach we’ve had since Flip. Some potentially major issues however. Shows he is learning though. Hopefully he staunches future leads being blown, benches Nowell quicker, and is comfortable scheming more split lineups when KAT is back.
自从老桑之后的最好教练。虽然有一些潜在的主力问题在里面。但他还是展现了他的学习能力。希望他能够在未来阻止住领先被浪没,少用点诺子,并在KAT回归后能够设计出更多种不同的阵容搭配
——MisterBackShots69
I agree with this take. The blown leads are hugely concerning, but he's shown to learn from mistakes in the past. Our 3Qs in recent games have been way better than they were to start the season, for example.
我赞同这个说法。虽然他经常把优势浪没,但他也展现出了从过去的失误中学习的能力。打个比方,我们最近机场比赛的第三节比赛季初的比赛好多了。
——Janderson2494
Rick Adelman was at least OK…
阿德尔曼至少还行
——baptigol
Finch is a good coach.
He pushes the team to implement new concepts. It's ugly sometimes but it is fun to watch the players develop. If he was willing to run out Nurse's 7 man rotation and only play 1-2 defensive concepts and spam pick and roll, we would win more games. Then, they'd get obliterated in the playoffs.
芬奇是个好教练
他推动球队施行新理念。虽然有时很丑,但看到球员进步还是很开心的。如果他愿意推行纳斯的7人轮换,减少对于防守的侧重,并尽量多打挡拆,我们会赢更多的比赛。然后在季后赛中被淘汰
——jonnylaw
I think he’s a good coach too. He has flaws but what coach doesn’t?
我也认为他是个好教练。他是有缺点,但哪个教练没有?
——whiterice_343
Probably the second most important part of the Wolves org behind Ant.
可能是森林狼队里重要性仅次于华子的人
——scofieldslays
Good coach, not without warts.
好教练,但并非没有缺点
——TheCurseOfRandyBass
I mean the playoffs feels like something to be expected every season now thanks to him, love the guy.
多亏了他,季后赛成为了我们每个赛季都能期待的事情,爱他
——lyingcats
Good coach, glad we have him. Brought stability, intensity and accountability to the team.
好教练,很高兴我们拥有了他。他为球队带来了稳定,强度和责任
——ineedcoffeealready
I want to see him solve the fourth quarter problems but that is definitely solvable. Overall pretty happy with him.
我想看到他解决第四节的问题,但那绝对是可以被解决的。总的来说对他很满意
——MiloGoesToTheFatFarm
Also did this last year so it’s gonna be pretty interesting how the perception on him changed
我去年也做了一次这样的调查,所以看对他的看法的变化是很有趣的
——Supremesocks(楼主)
Honestly, similar responses and exactly what you’d expect two years into a good coach’s tenure versus one year. You start to determine where his weak spots are and are able to distinguish them from the team/roster’s weak spots. The big question seems to be, are those weak spots fatal to our current roster? Or can he adapt?
Kinda impressed with the sub for being so levelheaded.
老实说,对于一个工作了两年的优秀教练来说,类似的回答和期望肯定是和第一年不一样的。你开始能知道他的弱点在哪,并且能把它和团队/阵容的弱点区分开来。而现在最大的问题似乎是,这些弱点对于现有阵容来说是否致命,或者说教练能否克服这些弱点
区里能这么冷静地分析真的让我耳目一新
——NorthernDevil
if this was posted the day after the wizards game you'd probably have different reactions. But the people checking the wolves sub in the afternoon on a work day during the All-Star Break are probably not fair-weather fans
如果这是在输给奇才的第二天发布的,那回答估计就不一样了。但会在全明星假期的工作日下午逛狼区的网友可能不会是赢球迷
——scofieldslays
Overall, I think he's a good coach with some major flaws - that may or may not be fixable. Even though he hasn't been coaching in the NBA for a long time, he has been a professional basketball coach for most of his life - so I don't think he's suddenly going to become an effective game manager at this stage.
I think he is fairly rigid in his approach to basketball - he wants his team to play the beautiful game, with quick decisions, steady ball movement, active player movement, and a fast tempo.
That worked great 90% of last season, and has been great overall for player development. But we saw it falter in the playoffs as the screws tightened. I think a lot of that is because young players got tight - I don't blame that on Finch, but at the same time, he wasn't able to adapt to give them more structure when they needed it.
It hasn't worked great this season with this roster, which was predictable. Rudy Gobert is essentially the antithesis of a free flowing offensive player.
I don't have particularly high expectations for the remainder of this season, and I think we will enter next year with mostly the same roster, because we don't have much flexibility to change anything. I think the team will disappoint again next year, and I think the front office will then then either trade KAT or fire Finch.
总的来说,我认为他是一位优秀的教练,但有一些重大缺陷——可能可以修复,也可能无法修复。尽管他在 NBA 执教的时间不长,但他一生的大部分时间里都是一名职业的篮球教练——所以我认为他不会在现阶段突然成为一名有效的能掌控比赛的人。
我认为他对待篮球的态度相当死板——他希望他的球队打出漂亮的比赛,做出快速的决定、稳定的运转球、球员能积极地跑动,打出快速的节奏。
这在上个赛季的 90% 时间里都很有效,并且对球员的发展总体上来说非常棒。但我们看到它在季后赛中随着防守强度增大而动摇。我认为这在很大程度上是因为年轻球员太紧张——我不把这归咎于芬奇,但与此同时,他也没有做出调整,他也没能够在球员需要时给出他们需要的体系。
这个赛季在这个名单上效果不佳,这是可以预见的。鲁迪-戈贝尔本质上是一个自由跑动的进攻球员的反义词。
我对本赛季剩下的时间没有特别高的期望,我认为我们将以基本相同的阵容进入下赛季,因为我们没有太多的灵活性来改变任何东西。我认为球队明年会再次令人失望,我认为管理层届时要么交易KAT,要么解雇芬奇。
——suahoi
I think he doesn't get nearly enough credit for scheme player development - especially considering how many young players we rely on, and core players constantly missing large chunks of time over the past 2 years between injuries and COVID.
Ant and Jaden have both developed ahead of schedule on his watch. A lot of coaches would be content for Ant to be a 1 dimensional scorer and Jaden a defensive role player, but they got Ant playing defense and looking to pass the ball, and Jaden getting more involved as a shot-take and maker. I remember a lot of people thinking the Jonathan Isaac comp was a long-shot and it being unlikely for Jaden to reach that level of defense.
Prince and SloMo have both done some of their best work under him and Vando blew up under him as well. His high wall scheme empowered both KAT and DLo to look decent defensively, which would've seemed impossible at one time.
People take the player-development for granted. There's a lot of coaches that don't have the patience for young player; they would just start Taurean and not even bother with it. With Finch, I feel good about guys like Moore and Minott. If they don't play, I don't feel like he's burying them for no reason - I think he's shown that he knows when a guy is ready to get out there.
我认为他在计划球员发展方面几乎没有得到足够的赞誉——尤其是考虑到我们依赖着许多年轻球员,以及核心球员在过去两年中因伤病和 COVID 缺席了大量时间。
华子和杰登都在他的任期内提前发展。很多教练都会满足于华子成为一个专职得分手而杰登成为一名防守角色球员,但他们让华子打防守并寻求传球,而杰登更多地参与投篮和创造进攻。我记得很多人认为艾萨克会是一个杰登的目标,而杰登一时不太可能达到那种防守水平。
王子和大锤都在他手下打出了最佳表现,而彪子在他手下也表现出色。他的高位逼抢战术让 KAT和DLo在防守端都看起来不错,这放在以前似乎是不可能的。
人们认为球员的发展是理所当然的。有很多教练对年轻球员没有耐心;他们只会让王子首发,甚至不会管他的表现。有了芬奇,让我对小摩尔和米诺特这样的球员感觉良好。如果他们上不了场,我不觉得芬奇会无缘无故地雪藏他们——我认为他已经证明了他知道一个人什么时候准备好上场了。
——thiswasmy19thchoice
感谢阅读~~~
制作&翻译:BigKAT
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【传声筒】外网狼区热议:芬奇上任二周年
{帖子发布于七天前,评论以获赞数排序}
Best coach we’ve had since Flip. Some potentially major issues however. Shows he is learning though. Hopefully he staunches future leads being blown, benches Nowell quicker, and is comfortable scheming more split lineups when KAT is back.
自从老桑之后的最好教练。虽然有一些潜在的主力问题在里面。但他还是展现了他的学习能力。希望他能够在未来阻止住领先被浪没,少用点诺子,并在KAT回归后能够设计出更多种不同的阵容搭配
——MisterBackShots69
I agree with this take. The blown leads are hugely concerning, but he's shown to learn from mistakes in the past. Our 3Qs in recent games have been way better than they were to start the season, for example.
我赞同这个说法。虽然他经常把优势浪没,但他也展现出了从过去的失误中学习的能力。打个比方,我们最近机场比赛的第三节比赛季初的比赛好多了。
——Janderson2494
Rick Adelman was at least OK…
阿德尔曼至少还行
——baptigol
Finch is a good coach.
He pushes the team to implement new concepts. It's ugly sometimes but it is fun to watch the players develop. If he was willing to run out Nurse's 7 man rotation and only play 1-2 defensive concepts and spam pick and roll, we would win more games. Then, they'd get obliterated in the playoffs.
芬奇是个好教练
他推动球队施行新理念。虽然有时很丑,但看到球员进步还是很开心的。如果他愿意推行纳斯的7人轮换,减少对于防守的侧重,并尽量多打挡拆,我们会赢更多的比赛。然后在季后赛中被淘汰
——jonnylaw
I think he’s a good coach too. He has flaws but what coach doesn’t?
我也认为他是个好教练。他是有缺点,但哪个教练没有?
——whiterice_343
Probably the second most important part of the Wolves org behind Ant.
可能是森林狼队里重要性仅次于华子的人
——scofieldslays
Good coach, not without warts.
好教练,但并非没有缺点
——TheCurseOfRandyBass
I mean the playoffs feels like something to be expected every season now thanks to him, love the guy.
多亏了他,季后赛成为了我们每个赛季都能期待的事情,爱他
——lyingcats
Good coach, glad we have him. Brought stability, intensity and accountability to the team.
好教练,很高兴我们拥有了他。他为球队带来了稳定,强度和责任
——ineedcoffeealready
I want to see him solve the fourth quarter problems but that is definitely solvable. Overall pretty happy with him.
我想看到他解决第四节的问题,但那绝对是可以被解决的。总的来说对他很满意
——MiloGoesToTheFatFarm
Also did this last year so it’s gonna be pretty interesting how the perception on him changed
我去年也做了一次这样的调查,所以看对他的看法的变化是很有趣的
——Supremesocks(楼主)
Honestly, similar responses and exactly what you’d expect two years into a good coach’s tenure versus one year. You start to determine where his weak spots are and are able to distinguish them from the team/roster’s weak spots. The big question seems to be, are those weak spots fatal to our current roster? Or can he adapt?
Kinda impressed with the sub for being so levelheaded.
老实说,对于一个工作了两年的优秀教练来说,类似的回答和期望肯定是和第一年不一样的。你开始能知道他的弱点在哪,并且能把它和团队/阵容的弱点区分开来。而现在最大的问题似乎是,这些弱点对于现有阵容来说是否致命,或者说教练能否克服这些弱点
区里能这么冷静地分析真的让我耳目一新
——NorthernDevil
if this was posted the day after the wizards game you'd probably have different reactions. But the people checking the wolves sub in the afternoon on a work day during the All-Star Break are probably not fair-weather fans
如果这是在输给奇才的第二天发布的,那回答估计就不一样了。但会在全明星假期的工作日下午逛狼区的网友可能不会是赢球迷
——scofieldslays
Overall, I think he's a good coach with some major flaws - that may or may not be fixable. Even though he hasn't been coaching in the NBA for a long time, he has been a professional basketball coach for most of his life - so I don't think he's suddenly going to become an effective game manager at this stage.
I think he is fairly rigid in his approach to basketball - he wants his team to play the beautiful game, with quick decisions, steady ball movement, active player movement, and a fast tempo.
That worked great 90% of last season, and has been great overall for player development. But we saw it falter in the playoffs as the screws tightened. I think a lot of that is because young players got tight - I don't blame that on Finch, but at the same time, he wasn't able to adapt to give them more structure when they needed it.
It hasn't worked great this season with this roster, which was predictable. Rudy Gobert is essentially the antithesis of a free flowing offensive player.
I don't have particularly high expectations for the remainder of this season, and I think we will enter next year with mostly the same roster, because we don't have much flexibility to change anything. I think the team will disappoint again next year, and I think the front office will then then either trade KAT or fire Finch.
总的来说,我认为他是一位优秀的教练,但有一些重大缺陷——可能可以修复,也可能无法修复。尽管他在 NBA 执教的时间不长,但他一生的大部分时间里都是一名职业的篮球教练——所以我认为他不会在现阶段突然成为一名有效的能掌控比赛的人。
我认为他对待篮球的态度相当死板——他希望他的球队打出漂亮的比赛,做出快速的决定、稳定的运转球、球员能积极地跑动,打出快速的节奏。
这在上个赛季的 90% 时间里都很有效,并且对球员的发展总体上来说非常棒。但我们看到它在季后赛中随着防守强度增大而动摇。我认为这在很大程度上是因为年轻球员太紧张——我不把这归咎于芬奇,但与此同时,他也没有做出调整,他也没能够在球员需要时给出他们需要的体系。
这个赛季在这个名单上效果不佳,这是可以预见的。鲁迪-戈贝尔本质上是一个自由跑动的进攻球员的反义词。
我对本赛季剩下的时间没有特别高的期望,我认为我们将以基本相同的阵容进入下赛季,因为我们没有太多的灵活性来改变任何东西。我认为球队明年会再次令人失望,我认为管理层届时要么交易KAT,要么解雇芬奇。
——suahoi
I think he doesn't get nearly enough credit for scheme player development - especially considering how many young players we rely on, and core players constantly missing large chunks of time over the past 2 years between injuries and COVID.
Ant and Jaden have both developed ahead of schedule on his watch. A lot of coaches would be content for Ant to be a 1 dimensional scorer and Jaden a defensive role player, but they got Ant playing defense and looking to pass the ball, and Jaden getting more involved as a shot-take and maker. I remember a lot of people thinking the Jonathan Isaac comp was a long-shot and it being unlikely for Jaden to reach that level of defense.
Prince and SloMo have both done some of their best work under him and Vando blew up under him as well. His high wall scheme empowered both KAT and DLo to look decent defensively, which would've seemed impossible at one time.
People take the player-development for granted. There's a lot of coaches that don't have the patience for young player; they would just start Taurean and not even bother with it. With Finch, I feel good about guys like Moore and Minott. If they don't play, I don't feel like he's burying them for no reason - I think he's shown that he knows when a guy is ready to get out there.
我认为他在计划球员发展方面几乎没有得到足够的赞誉——尤其是考虑到我们依赖着许多年轻球员,以及核心球员在过去两年中因伤病和 COVID 缺席了大量时间。
华子和杰登都在他的任期内提前发展。很多教练都会满足于华子成为一个专职得分手而杰登成为一名防守角色球员,但他们让华子打防守并寻求传球,而杰登更多地参与投篮和创造进攻。我记得很多人认为艾萨克会是一个杰登的目标,而杰登一时不太可能达到那种防守水平。
王子和大锤都在他手下打出了最佳表现,而彪子在他手下也表现出色。他的高位逼抢战术让 KAT和DLo在防守端都看起来不错,这放在以前似乎是不可能的。
人们认为球员的发展是理所当然的。有很多教练对年轻球员没有耐心;他们只会让王子首发,甚至不会管他的表现。有了芬奇,让我对小摩尔和米诺特这样的球员感觉良好。如果他们上不了场,我不觉得芬奇会无缘无故地雪藏他们——我认为他已经证明了他知道一个人什么时候准备好上场了。
——thiswasmy19thchoice
感谢阅读~~~
制作&翻译:BigKAT
来源:Reddit森林狼区
看完不妨在右下角点个支持吧~