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第四次声明:我们正在抓紧时间写PPT,请大家在这之前不要对选手进行盲目的指责。

第四次声明:我们正在抓紧时间写PPT,请大家在这之前不要对选手进行盲目的指责。

第五次,在做视频了,我们韩华都是做视频的

第五次,在做视频了,我们韩华都是做视频的

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成年人都事上见,我看t1切割得这么迅速彻底,估计不管这个经纪还是zeus本人都被彻底拉黑了,分锅也没啥意义了

成年人都事上见,我看t1切割得这么迅速彻底,估计不管这个经纪还是zeus本人都被彻底拉黑了,分锅也没啥意义了

有可能是单纯没版权了

有可能是单纯没版权了

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xs,我看的就是英文原句,翻译的我都没看。你说道说道哪句阴阳了

xs,我看的就是英文原句,翻译的我都没看。你说道说道哪句阴阳了

“You’d have to ask Zeus… or better yet, try his agent—if you can actually get him on the table!”
“From our standpoint, Zeus made his decision on the first day of the free agency period. Throughout the time leading up to that day, we had to get the impression that we were getting closer to an agreement until the mood suddenly changed around noon that day. ”
“ This is the same agency that attempted to move Zeus to China last year for a higher payday, and it was only through Zeus’ own initiative—reaching out to kkOma—that he ultimately stayed with T1.”
“Both Oner and Gumayusi came to the T1 HQ to expedite the negotiations along with their agents, which showed their eagerness to get the signing done. ”
“At the end of the day, each player has the personal right to decide whether they want to stay with T1.”
“(Q:Is the only reason Zeus left because of money?)
A:Only Zeus can truly answer that question. ”
“Q:Can you explain to T1 fans why Zeus, a T1 homegrown superstar, moved to a domestic rival team?)
A:I honestly can’t answer that question—it’s something only Zeus himself can truly explain. ”
就截这么多吧很多用词懒得扣了,“same agent”“own initiative”人家意思还不明显吗?同样的经济人同样的招数,去年宙斯主动找t1留下,今年美美隐身
还有“something only Zeus himself can truly explain”这样的话没少出现,这几个大强调什么意思,还不够阴阳怪气吗,做决定的就是你zeus,我骂agent是指桑骂槐来搅局的——现在这个大论文出来,t1和zeus的两方矛盾变成拉上agent的三方矛盾了,agent不干了跳出来了——这不就是目的吗

“You’d have to ask Zeus… or better yet, try his agent—if you can actually get him on the table!”
“From our standpoint, Zeus made his decision on the first day of the free agency period. Throughout the time leading up to that day, we had to get the impression that we were getting closer to an agreement until the mood suddenly changed around noon that day. ”
“ This is the same agency that attempted to move Zeus to China last year for a higher payday, and it was only through Zeus’ own initiative—reaching out to kkOma—that he ultimately stayed with T1.”
“Both Oner and Gumayusi came to the T1 HQ to expedite the negotiations along with their agents, which showed their eagerness to get the signing done. ”
“At the end of the day, each player has the personal right to decide whether they want to stay with T1.”
“(Q:Is the only reason Zeus left because of money?)
A:Only Zeus can truly answer that question. ”
“Q:Can you explain to T1 fans why Zeus, a T1 homegrown superstar, moved to a domestic rival team?)
A:I honestly can’t answer that question—it’s something only Zeus himself can truly explain. ”
就截这么多吧很多用词懒得扣了,“same agent”“own initiative”人家意思还不明显吗?同样的经济人同样的招数,去年宙斯主动找t1留下,今年美美隐身
还有“something only Zeus himself can truly explain”这样的话没少出现,这几个大强调什么意思,还不够阴阳怪气吗,做决定的就是你zeus,我骂agent是指桑骂槐来搅局的——现在这个大论文出来,t1和zeus的两方矛盾变成拉上agent的三方矛盾了,agent不干了跳出来了——这不就是目的吗

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我突然在想为什么这玩意自带中文翻译啊,这不是把串子摁地上打吗

我突然在想为什么这玩意自带中文翻译啊,这不是把串子摁地上打吗

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就这?避重就轻,T1也没说zeus啊一直重点就是点草这个经济公司。T1好歹还是中韩英三文回应,这经济公司就是一草台班子

就这?避重就轻,T1也没说zeus啊一直重点就是点草这个经济公司。T1好歹还是中韩英三文回应,这经济公司就是一草台班子

总之就是
t1:经纪公司不干人事,装死不回复,出尔反尔,撒谎有deadline
经纪公司:别带宙斯节奏
宙斯有福了!

总之就是
t1:经纪公司不干人事,装死不回复,出尔反尔,撒谎有deadline
经纪公司:别带宙斯节奏
宙斯有福了!

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引用 @虎扑JR1797571081 发表的:
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xs,我看的就是英文原句,翻译的我都没看。你说道说道哪句阴阳了

xs,我看的就是英文原句,翻译的我都没看。你说道说道哪句阴阳了

反驳一下呀,让我这种文盲跟着涨涨见识

反驳一下呀,让我这种文盲跟着涨涨见识

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有可能是单纯没版权了

有可能是单纯没版权了

有那么多队员离队过,就没见过这样的,估计不单是版权

有那么多队员离队过,就没见过这样的,估计不单是版权

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有那么多队员离队过,就没见过这样的,估计不单是版权

有那么多队员离队过,就没见过这样的,估计不单是版权

后面不又上回去了,离队后还宣传的好像也没吧

后面不又上回去了,离队后还宣传的好像也没吧

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后面不又上回去了,离队后还宣传的好像也没吧

后面不又上回去了,离队后还宣传的好像也没吧

哪边啊,我只看到多兰的顶上去了

哪边啊,我只看到多兰的顶上去了

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引用 @一口一个胡椒仔 发表的:
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总之就是t1:经纪公司不干人事,装死不回复,出尔反尔,撒谎有deadline经纪公司:别带宙斯节奏宙斯有福了!

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总之就是
t1:经纪公司不干人事,装死不回复,出尔反尔,撒谎有deadline
经纪公司:别带宙斯节奏
宙斯有福了!

经纪公司和战队本来就不是对等的,未来可能还要合作的,你这就不客观

经纪公司和战队本来就不是对等的,未来可能还要合作的,你这就不客观

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“You’d have to ask Zeus… or better yet, try his agent—if you can actually get him on the table!”“From our standpoint, Zeus made his decision on the first day of the free agency period. Throughout the time leading up to that day, we had to get the impression that we were getting closer to an agreement until the mood suddenly changed around noon that day. ”“ This is the same agency that attempted to move Zeus to China last year for a higher payday, and it was only through Zeus’ own initiative—reaching out to kkOma—that he ultimately stayed with T1.”“Both Oner and Gumayusi came to the T1 HQ to expedite the negotiations along with their agents, which showed their eagerness to get the signing done. ”“At the end of the day, each player has the personal right to decide whether they want to stay with T1.”“(Q:Is the only reason Zeus left because of money?)A:Only Zeus can truly answer that question. ”“Q:Can you explain to T1 fans why Zeus, a T1 homegrown superstar, moved to a domestic rival team?)A:I honestly can’t answer that question—it’s something only Zeus himself can truly explain. ”就截这么多吧很多用词懒得扣了,“same agent”“own initiative”人家意思还不明显吗?同样的经济人同样的招数,去年宙斯主动找t1留下,今年美美隐身还有“something only Zeus himself can truly explain”这样的话没少出现,这几个大强调什么意思,还不够阴阳怪气吗,做决定的就是你zeus,我骂agent是指桑骂槐来搅局的——现在这个大论文出来,t1和zeus的两方矛盾变成拉上agent的三方矛盾了,agent不干了跳出来了——这不就是目的吗

“You’d have to ask Zeus… or better yet, try his agent—if you can actually get him on the table!”
“From our standpoint, Zeus made his decision on the first day of the free agency period. Throughout the time leading up to that day, we had to get the impression that we were getting closer to an agreement until the mood suddenly changed around noon that day. ”
“ This is the same agency that attempted to move Zeus to China last year for a higher payday, and it was only through Zeus’ own initiative—reaching out to kkOma—that he ultimately stayed with T1.”
“Both Oner and Gumayusi came to the T1 HQ to expedite the negotiations along with their agents, which showed their eagerness to get the signing done. ”
“At the end of the day, each player has the personal right to decide whether they want to stay with T1.”
“(Q:Is the only reason Zeus left because of money?)
A:Only Zeus can truly answer that question. ”
“Q:Can you explain to T1 fans why Zeus, a T1 homegrown superstar, moved to a domestic rival team?)
A:I honestly can’t answer that question—it’s something only Zeus himself can truly explain. ”
就截这么多吧很多用词懒得扣了,“same agent”“own initiative”人家意思还不明显吗?同样的经济人同样的招数,去年宙斯主动找t1留下,今年美美隐身
还有“something only Zeus himself can truly explain”这样的话没少出现,这几个大强调什么意思,还不够阴阳怪气吗,做决定的就是你zeus,我骂agent是指桑骂槐来搅局的——现在这个大论文出来,t1和zeus的两方矛盾变成拉上agent的三方矛盾了,agent不干了跳出来了——这不就是目的吗

这叫阴阳?zeus最后签hle那肯定是宙斯的决定,所以joe说的做出这个决定只有宙斯能够解释有什么问题?我觉得问这个问题的人也是个大聪明。全世界都知道zeus走是因为经纪公司想要大合同而zeus默许了这一点,然而经纪公司只关注到了zeus眼下的利益而没有为zeus在除了钱的其他方面的利益作出考量去引导zeus才是joe觉得可惜的一点好吗?一句话:joe输出火力的重点明显指向的是经纪公司的唯利是图特性,导致宙斯做出joe乃至整个大众都无法理解的短视的决定,下面这段话矛头指向谁还不明了?The agent never countered a single proposal from T1 and never gave us the opportunity to match any offers.
If the issue was strictly about money, the agent never communicated, "Give us XYZ, and we will sign." As I mentioned before, we were told that they would come to our HQ in the morning to discuss things in person.
However, the agent never showed up and instead signed a deal elsewhere.
而且,如果joe真的想阴阳宙斯的话后面还会说这段话嘛?Zeus will forever be part of the T1 family. His contributions to our history are unforgettable, and he will always have a place here. As we've seen with kkOma, who returned after leaving in 2019 to guide us to our fifth World Championship in 2024, the door at T1 is never closed to those who have shaped our legacy.
T1 is more than just a team-it's a home for players, both past and present. We've consistently taken care of those who've been part of our journey, from legends like Wolf and Boxer to others such as Untara, Bengi, and Tom. Zeus has earned his place in T1's legacy, and it would be an honor to welcome him back if he ever chooses to return. 这段话可以明显看出joe就没有一点怪zeus的意思,只是可惜zeus因为经纪公司的阻拦或错误引导做出了一个令人惋惜的决定。然而尽管如此joe还是选择尊重zeus的决定并欢迎他后面回来。这应该够明白了吧?我对你内心的想法不予置评,但你能不能不要把你那点怨恨的小心思随便映射到别人的话当中啊?通篇看下来joe对zeus有一丝埋怨的意思嘛?

这叫阴阳?zeus最后签hle那肯定是宙斯的决定,所以joe说的做出这个决定只有宙斯能够解释有什么问题?我觉得问这个问题的人也是个大聪明。全世界都知道zeus走是因为经纪公司想要大合同而zeus默许了这一点,然而经纪公司只关注到了zeus眼下的利益而没有为zeus在除了钱的其他方面的利益作出考量去引导zeus才是joe觉得可惜的一点好吗?一句话:joe输出火力的重点明显指向的是经纪公司的唯利是图特性,导致宙斯做出joe乃至整个大众都无法理解的短视的决定,下面这段话矛头指向谁还不明了?The agent never countered a single proposal from T1 and never gave us the opportunity to match any offers.
If the issue was strictly about money, the agent never communicated, "Give us XYZ, and we will sign." As I mentioned before, we were told that they would come to our HQ in the morning to discuss things in person.
However, the agent never showed up and instead signed a deal elsewhere.
而且,如果joe真的想阴阳宙斯的话后面还会说这段话嘛?Zeus will forever be part of the T1 family. His contributions to our history are unforgettable, and he will always have a place here. As we've seen with kkOma, who returned after leaving in 2019 to guide us to our fifth World Championship in 2024, the door at T1 is never closed to those who have shaped our legacy.
T1 is more than just a team-it's a home for players, both past and present. We've consistently taken care of those who've been part of our journey, from legends like Wolf and Boxer to others such as Untara, Bengi, and Tom. Zeus has earned his place in T1's legacy, and it would be an honor to welcome him back if he ever chooses to return. 这段话可以明显看出joe就没有一点怪zeus的意思,只是可惜zeus因为经纪公司的阻拦或错误引导做出了一个令人惋惜的决定。然而尽管如此joe还是选择尊重zeus的决定并欢迎他后面回来。这应该够明白了吧?我对你内心的想法不予置评,但你能不能不要把你那点怨恨的小心思随便映射到别人的话当中啊?通篇看下来joe对zeus有一丝埋怨的意思嘛?

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这叫阴阳?zeus最后签hle那肯定是宙斯的决定,所以joe说的做出这个决定只有宙斯能够解释有什么问题?我觉得问这个问题的人也是个大聪明。全世界都知道zeus走是因为经纪公司想要大合同而zeus默许了这一点,然而经纪公司只关注到了zeus眼下的利益而没有为zeus在除了钱的其他方面的利益作出考量去引导zeus才是joe觉得可惜的一点好吗?一句话:joe输出火力的重点明显指向的是经纪公司的唯利是图特性,导致宙斯做出joe乃至整个大众都无法理解的短视的决定,下面这段话矛头指向谁还不明了?The agent never countered a single proposal from T1 and never gave us the opportunity to match any offers.If the issue was strictly about money, the agent never communicated, "Give us XYZ, and we will sign." As I mentioned before, we were told that they would come to our HQ in the morning to discuss things in person.However, the agent never showed up and instead signed a deal elsewhere.而且,如果joe真的想阴阳宙斯的话后面还会说这段话嘛?Zeus will forever be part of the T1 family. His contributions to our history are unforgettable, and he will always have a place here. As we've seen with kkOma, who returned after leaving in 2019 to guide us to our fifth World Championship in 2024, the door at T1 is never closed to those who have shaped our legacy.T1 is more than just a team-it's a home for players, both past and present. We've consistently taken care of those who've been part of our journey, from legends like Wolf and Boxer to others such as Untara, Bengi, and Tom. Zeus has earned his place in T1's legacy, and it would be an honor to welcome him back if he ever chooses to return. 这段话可以明显看出joe就没有一点怪zeus的意思,只是可惜zeus因为经纪公司的阻拦或错误引导做出了一个令人惋惜的决定。然而尽管如此joe还是选择尊重zeus的决定并欢迎他后面回来。这应该够明白了吧?我对你内心的想法不予置评,但你能不能不要把你那点怨恨的小心思随便映射到别人的话当中啊?通篇看下来joe对zeus有一丝埋怨的意思嘛?

这叫阴阳?zeus最后签hle那肯定是宙斯的决定,所以joe说的做出这个决定只有宙斯能够解释有什么问题?我觉得问这个问题的人也是个大聪明。全世界都知道zeus走是因为经纪公司想要大合同而zeus默许了这一点,然而经纪公司只关注到了zeus眼下的利益而没有为zeus在除了钱的其他方面的利益作出考量去引导zeus才是joe觉得可惜的一点好吗?一句话:joe输出火力的重点明显指向的是经纪公司的唯利是图特性,导致宙斯做出joe乃至整个大众都无法理解的短视的决定,下面这段话矛头指向谁还不明了?The agent never countered a single proposal from T1 and never gave us the opportunity to match any offers.
If the issue was strictly about money, the agent never communicated, "Give us XYZ, and we will sign." As I mentioned before, we were told that they would come to our HQ in the morning to discuss things in person.
However, the agent never showed up and instead signed a deal elsewhere.
而且,如果joe真的想阴阳宙斯的话后面还会说这段话嘛?Zeus will forever be part of the T1 family. His contributions to our history are unforgettable, and he will always have a place here. As we've seen with kkOma, who returned after leaving in 2019 to guide us to our fifth World Championship in 2024, the door at T1 is never closed to those who have shaped our legacy.
T1 is more than just a team-it's a home for players, both past and present. We've consistently taken care of those who've been part of our journey, from legends like Wolf and Boxer to others such as Untara, Bengi, and Tom. Zeus has earned his place in T1's legacy, and it would be an honor to welcome him back if he ever chooses to return. 这段话可以明显看出joe就没有一点怪zeus的意思,只是可惜zeus因为经纪公司的阻拦或错误引导做出了一个令人惋惜的决定。然而尽管如此joe还是选择尊重zeus的决定并欢迎他后面回来。这应该够明白了吧?我对你内心的想法不予置评,但你能不能不要把你那点怨恨的小心思随便映射到别人的话当中啊?通篇看下来joe对zeus有一丝埋怨的意思嘛?

我怨恨的小心思……这是t1官方发言肯定要以官话为主啊,那我上面引的您看了吗?您看了觉得没问题?
就算抛开joe立场,zeus走是为了大合同这点我也不认同您,joe说的还不明白吗t1有钱愿意给,们zeus走压根不是钱的事,t1在zeus签约这件事是压根不被允许上桌——你觉得是agent要吃大回扣诱拐蒙骗了们宙?那joe也说了呀去年他agent同样的操作他就知道蹦跶知道跑,今年就查无此人了,为嘛呢?从夺冠之后露完脸就跑,躲起来说是家庭旅游,鸽掉和小k约好的军训,skt团建毫无踪影……
说实话都是摊粉现在为这么一人较这真没必要,你对他有感情也没必要这样骗自己,摊上单都差点被操作地开天窗了,ogk傻心傻意为了五人组早早签约,要是doran真被kt签走了那他们这一两年算什么?

我怨恨的小心思……这是t1官方发言肯定要以官话为主啊,那我上面引的您看了吗?您看了觉得没问题?
就算抛开joe立场,zeus走是为了大合同这点我也不认同您,joe说的还不明白吗t1有钱愿意给,们zeus走压根不是钱的事,t1在zeus签约这件事是压根不被允许上桌——你觉得是agent要吃大回扣诱拐蒙骗了们宙?那joe也说了呀去年他agent同样的操作他就知道蹦跶知道跑,今年就查无此人了,为嘛呢?从夺冠之后露完脸就跑,躲起来说是家庭旅游,鸽掉和小k约好的军训,skt团建毫无踪影……
说实话都是摊粉现在为这么一人较这真没必要,你对他有感情也没必要这样骗自己,摊上单都差点被操作地开天窗了,ogk傻心傻意为了五人组早早签约,要是doran真被kt签走了那他们这一两年算什么?

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我怨恨的小心思……这是t1官方发言肯定要以官话为主啊,那我上面引的您看了吗?您看了觉得没问题?就算抛开joe立场,zeus走是为了大合同这点我也不认同您,joe说的还不明白吗t1有钱愿意给,们zeus走压根不是钱的事,t1在zeus签约这件事是压根不被允许上桌——你觉得是agent要吃大回扣诱拐蒙骗了们宙?那joe也说了呀去年他agent同样的操作他就知道蹦跶知道跑,今年就查无此人了,为嘛呢?从夺冠之后露完脸就跑,躲起来说是家庭旅游,鸽掉和小k约好的军训,skt团建毫无踪影……说实话都是摊粉现在为这么一人较这真没必要,你对他有感情也没必要这样骗自己,摊上单都差点被操作地开天窗了,ogk傻心傻意为了五人组早早签约,要是doran真被kt签走了那他们这一两年算什么?

我怨恨的小心思……这是t1官方发言肯定要以官话为主啊,那我上面引的您看了吗?您看了觉得没问题?
就算抛开joe立场,zeus走是为了大合同这点我也不认同您,joe说的还不明白吗t1有钱愿意给,们zeus走压根不是钱的事,t1在zeus签约这件事是压根不被允许上桌——你觉得是agent要吃大回扣诱拐蒙骗了们宙?那joe也说了呀去年他agent同样的操作他就知道蹦跶知道跑,今年就查无此人了,为嘛呢?从夺冠之后露完脸就跑,躲起来说是家庭旅游,鸽掉和小k约好的军训,skt团建毫无踪影……
说实话都是摊粉现在为这么一人较这真没必要,你对他有感情也没必要这样骗自己,摊上单都差点被操作地开天窗了,ogk傻心傻意为了五人组早早签约,要是doran真被kt签走了那他们这一两年算什么?

我的发言只针对joe这篇访问内容,在我看来joe对zeus并没有阴阳怪气的意思,我只感受到了他对zeus做出这种选择的可惜,还有就是明晃晃的针对经纪公司

我的发言只针对joe这篇访问内容,在我看来joe对zeus并没有阴阳怪气的意思,我只感受到了他对zeus做出这种选择的可惜,还有就是明晃晃的针对经纪公司

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引用 @Evalish 发表的:
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哪边啊,我只看到多兰的顶上去了

哪边啊,我只看到多兰的顶上去了

说是t1网站,合同到期没版权了要下一堆东西,结果队迷高潮了

说是t1网站,合同到期没版权了要下一堆东西,结果队迷高潮了

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引用 @虎扑JR1797571081 发表的:
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我的发言只针对joe这篇访问内容,在我看来joe对zeus并没有阴阳怪气的意思,我只感受到了他对zeus做出这种选择的可惜,还有就是明晃晃的针对经纪公司

我的发言只针对joe这篇访问内容,在我看来joe对zeus并没有阴阳怪气的意思,我只感受到了他对zeus做出这种选择的可惜,还有就是明晃晃的针对经纪公司

如果joe和公司对zeus本人没有不满,就不会光速切割得比当年canna还快还狠,导致负面舆论席卷zeus本人。这篇发言以英文语境也不乏暗讽,当然你认为没有的话我不争,因为没必要

如果joe和公司对zeus本人没有不满,就不会光速切割得比当年canna还快还狠,导致负面舆论席卷zeus本人。这篇发言以英文语境也不乏暗讽,当然你认为没有的话我不争,因为没必要

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