Wow. I’ll take it. I would’ve waited in his shoes but as a Rockets fan I’ll take it.
哇。我会接受的。如果我是他我可能会等待,但作为火箭队的球迷,我会接受的。
Congratulations! Hope this will be beneficial to both sides
恭喜!希望这对双方都有益。
Big discount...shows his commitment to the team.
大优惠……显示了他对球队的承诺。
Franchise player secured.
核心球员位置保证了。
Damn, Green’s deal looks even better now and well done on getting this done. Now let’s play ball!!! Did not expect it to get done and definitely not at this price, absolute freaking steal. Glad we’re no longer in the Morey and Leslie days. We’re finally committed to letting a core grow together. It’s been a while.
天哪,格林的合同现在看来更好了,完成这笔交易做得很好。现在让我们开始比赛吧!!!我没想到这笔交易能成,而且绝对不是这个价格,简直是太划算了。很高兴我们不再处于莫雷和莱利的时代了。我们终于开始致力于让核心球员一起成长了。这已经有些时日了。
All of this tells me that there's no worthy target for the cap space next year, especially if we have to decline Fred's option to get it.
这一切告诉我,明年没有值得使用薪资空间的目标,特别是如果我们不得不拒绝范弗利特的选项来获得这个空间。
Why would Sengun sign that?
Especially for 5 years.
As a Rockets fan, I love it though.
申京为什么会签那份合同?
尤其是签了5年。
作为火箭球迷,我倒是很喜欢这个决定。
Now here's a deal everyone can get behind. Steal of a deal
现在这是个大家都支持的签约。绝对超值。
I am glad we got all the contract stuff out of the way for this season.
Now we can focus on winning.
I also want us to re-sign FVV and Steven Adams. Clearly, we are no longer looking to "maximize cap space" for a crappy FA market.
Alpi left a lot of money on the table - he is a far better player than some of the guys who got max deals.
I hope the Rockets repay his commitment later down the road, with loyalty.
很高兴我们这个赛季的合同问题都解决了。
现在我们可以专注于赢球了。
我还希望我们能重新签下范弗利特和亚当斯。显然,我们不再寻求“最大化薪资空间”来应对一个糟糕的自由球员市场。
申京放弃了很多钱——他比一些拿到顶薪合同的球员要优秀得多。
我希望火箭队将来能以忠诚回报他的承诺。
Surprised that both guys signed these contracts. Neither player thought they were a max player? They were both okay with making less than Franz, Mobley, Cade, and Barnes? Obviously good for the rockets but kind of weird that neither of these guys thought they were worth a max, and were willing to accept these deals.
两位球员都签了新合同,真是让人惊讶。难道他们都不认为自己是顶薪球员吗?他们都能接受比弗兰茨·瓦格纳(Franz Wagner)、埃文·莫布里(Evan Mobley)、凯德·坎宁安(Cade Cunningham)和斯科蒂·巴恩斯(Scottie Barnes)拿得少吗?显然这对火箭队是好事,但有点奇怪的是,这两位球员都不认为自己值得顶薪,并且愿意接受这些合同。
The biggest (third party) winner from the Sengun extension: Fred VanVleet.
The #Rockets will no longer have meaningful 2025 cap room even if they part ways with FVV. Now, the odds of VanVleet getting a new long-term deal next summer go up a lot.
申京续约的最大第三方赢家:弗雷德·范弗利特。
即使火箭队和范弗利特分道扬镳,他们也将不再拥有有意义的2025年薪资空间。现在,范弗利特明年夏天获得一份新的长期合同的可能性大大增加了。
Also:
IF SENGUN MAKES AN ALL NBA TEAM THIS SEASON, HIS DEAL DOES NOT SCALE TO A SUPERMAX!!!
I was willing to max Sengun without supermax escalators this year.
Not only did Sengun do that, he got that plus a 8M per year discount
What a masterpiece by Stone
另外:
如果申京本赛季入选NBA最佳阵容,他的合同并不会升级到超级顶薪!
我今年愿意给他一个没有超级顶薪升级条款的顶薪合同。
申京不仅做到了这一点,他还做出了每年800万美元的折扣。
斯通的这笔操作真是杰作。
Stone hit two home runs in one inning.
斯通在一局中打出了两个本垒打。
Wow, another very team-friendly deal by Stone. Starting to look like his only real weakness as a GM so far is making trades. Surprised Sengun didn't get the full max tbh but can't argue with having more financial flexibility for when we have to pay Amen down the line.
哇,斯通又达成了一个非常有利于球队的合同。目前来看,作为总经理,他唯一的真正弱点似乎是进行交易。说实话,我没想到申京没有得到全额顶薪,但我们不能否认,为了将来支付阿门的薪水,拥有更多的薪金灵活性是有道理的。
This is how they keep the core 7 together. Slightly less than max for all 7. Pay the tax bill. Keep the guys together. LOVE IT!
这就是他们如何保持七子的策略。给所有7人都提供略低于顶薪的合同。支付奢侈税。保持团队的团结。爱了爱了
I’m so happy for him. If not for the injury late in the season, I believe we make the playoffs
I need the big fella to give me 25 10
Let’s go!!!!!!!!!
我真为他感到高兴。如果不是因为赛季末的伤病,我相信我们能进入季后赛。
我需要这位大个子给我带来场均25分10篮板的表现。
让我们加油!!!
Great deal for Sengun — smart and conservative you know what you’re going to get for the next 5 years on both sides of the contract. Getting the bag seemed to be really important to him so hopefully he’s at peace now and can focus purely on basketball. Good value for us and tip of the hat to Alpie for leaving 40Ms on the table.
对申京来说,这是一份很棒的合同——聪明且保守,你知道未来5年合同双方将得到什么。对他来说,拿到这笔钱似乎非常重要,所以希望他现在能够安心,并且可以专注于篮球。对我们来说是很好的价值,也要向他致敬,他放弃了桌上的4000万美元。
Imo injury from last year made Sengun to want stability. There is always the risk of a major injury happening and the promised deal going down the drain if he accepts waiting until the next off-season.
This should be the main reason. I don't think Sengun is the type to undervalue himself.
我认为去年的伤病让申京想要稳定。总是存在发生重大伤病的风险,如果他接受等到下一个休赛期,承诺的合同可能会泡汤。
这应该是主要原因。我不认为申京是那种会低估自己的人。
There was no doubt in my mind Green would not accept a max and we were going to have to let him walk or panic trade him.
Same in expecting Şengün to be a guaranteed full max.
I can’t believe Stone pulled this off. He’s been hitting on the drafts too.
He’s considerably better than Morey if he pulls this off and this team makes a solid run in the next few seasons. Morey honestly gets too much credit for getting lucky with Harden.
我一度坚信格林不会接受顶薪,我们可能不得不让他离开或者在恐慌中交易他。
同样,我也预期申京会得到一个有保障的全额顶薪。
我真不敢相信斯通做到了这一点。他在选秀中也做得不错。
如果他能做到这一点,并且这支球队在未来几个赛季能够稳定发展,斯通显然比莫雷更出色。莫雷因为哈登的运气而得到了太多的赞誉。
Green and Sengun partying tonight. Hope they take the team out in celebration. Great day for both of them!
格林和申京今晚要开派对了。希望他们能带全队出去庆祝。对他们俩来说,今天是个伟大的日子!
Hopefully, both Sengun and Jalen contracts are valuable to trade in the near future. I'm not a believer these two players can make us contenders.
If they're the cornerstone players, I see Jabari, Cam Whitmore, FVV, plus future draft assets being traded to bring in a game-changer player.
希望申京和格林的合同在不久的将来对交易有价值。我不相信这两位球员能让我们成为竞争者。
如果他们是基石球员,我认为贾巴里、惠特莫尔、范弗利特加上未来的选秀资产会被交易,以引入一个能改变比赛的球员。
Well it looks like my Sengun jersey is good for a few more years.
看来我的申京球衣还可以再穿几年了。
I think Sengun was just rational about his move and he knows he can perform his max when he signs the contract. There is no sacrifice on his end for the team. It is just his focus on basketball and desire to secure his future. I am almost sure he also doesn't give a sheet about what the other players signed for. Or even if he does, he will aim to show them he is the better one on the court.
我认为申京对他的决定是理性的,他知道自己在签约时能够发挥出顶薪的水平。他并没有为球队做出牺牲。这只是他专注于篮球和渴望确保自己未来的表现。我几乎可以肯定,他也不在乎其他球员签了什么合同。即使他在乎,他也会在球场上向他们展示他是更好的那一个。
Not a fan of this either. Maybe the league has changed with the new tax and trade rules, but I don’t get locking into this team like this.
I think another season of evaluation on Sengun and Green would have been well worth the potential “premiums” we could have payed if they played really well. I would have better understood committing to one of them and keeping cap flexibility open. Adding players for free through FA is big for a team that needs a ton of improvement to become a contender.
FO is banking on internal improvements and trades. I don’t really have faith in the FO with trades, we have some picks so that helps but it feels like internal improvements or bust. All of our key young players have heavy flaws, it’s far from a guarantee that any are allnba players who can be the guy for a contender.
我也不是很喜欢这个决定。也许随着新的税收和交易规则的出台,联盟已经发生了变化,但我不明白为什么要这样锁定这支球队。
我认为对申京和格林再进行一个赛季的评估会是值得的,即使他们打得非常好,我们可能需要支付潜在的“溢价”。如果他们中的一个表现出色,我会更理解承诺其中一人并保持薪资灵活性的决定。对于一个需要大量改进才能成为竞争者的球队来说,通过自由球员市场免费增加球员非常重要。
管理层正在押注内部改进和交易。我对管理层在交易方面并没有太多信心,我们有一些选秀权,这有所帮助,但感觉就像是要么内部改进,要么失败。我们所有的关键年轻球员都有严重的缺点,很难保证他们中的任何一个都能成为全明星球员,成为竞争者的关键人物。
So this combined with Green locks in a core to grow on the next 2 seasons. As crazy as it sounds, even this massive deal doesn't necessarily lock him in as the franchise centerpiece. But we did kick the can down the road a little to gives us more time to assess everybody as a potential centerpiece. Players improvement doesn't necessarily stop at year 4.
Unlike Green who has been Mr. Inconsistency, Sengun has shown consistent improvement and absolutely is worthy of this deal, hopefully he can keep taking steps to be that guy we build a title contender around.
The free agent crop looked like ass, so that probably played a big role in the choice to give up so much cap space.
这样一来,格林的合同加上申京的合同,就锁定了未来两个赛季的核心阵容。尽管听起来很疯狂,但即便是这份巨额合同也不一定将他锁定为球队的基石球员。但我们确实将问题推迟了一些,这给了我们更多时间来评估每个人作为潜在基石的可能性。球员的进步并不一定在第四年就停止。
与表现一直不稳定的格林不同,申京已经显示出了持续的进步,他绝对值得这份合同,希望他能继续迈出步伐,成为我们围绕他建立冠军竞争者的核心。
自由球员市场上的选择看起来并不怎么样,这可能是我们选择放弃这么多薪资空间的一个重要原因。
I can't believe $37M/year is considered a "steal" for a not-yet-even-an-all-star player. The max is ridiculous... This is part of what makes it so hard to care about pro sports anymore. We pay too damn much for this kind of entertainment. I can only imagine how much money the owners are printing these days...
真不敢相信每年3700万美元竟然被认为是“超值”的价格,对于一个甚至还没有成为全明星的球员来说。顶薪太离谱了……这就是为什么现在越来越难以关心职业体育的原因之一。我们为这种娱乐支付得太多了。难以想象现在的老板们赚了多少钱……
Wow. Great job by FO. I was not expecting either anytime soon, let alone both on the same day prior to season starting. Was definitely worried one or both would hold out for a max.
curious to know how this looks cap wise in 3-4 years, hopefully when these guys are in their prime and we’re legit perennial contenders.
can’t wait for Wednesday!
哇,管理层做得很棒。我没想到这么快就能达成协议,更不用说在赛季开始前的同一天就达成了两个协议。我确实担心他们中的一个或两个会坚持要求顶薪。
很好奇3-4年后的薪资帽情况会如何,希望到那时这些球员正处于巅峰时期,我们也能成为真正的常年竞争者。等不及周三的比赛了!
Wow. I’ll take it. I would’ve waited in his shoes but as a Rockets fan I’ll take it.
哇。我会接受的。如果我是他我可能会等待,但作为火箭队的球迷,我会接受的。
Congratulations! Hope this will be beneficial to both sides
恭喜!希望这对双方都有益。
Big discount...shows his commitment to the team.
大优惠……显示了他对球队的承诺。
Franchise player secured.
核心球员位置保证了。
Damn, Green’s deal looks even better now and well done on getting this done. Now let’s play ball!!! Did not expect it to get done and definitely not at this price, absolute freaking steal. Glad we’re no longer in the Morey and Leslie days. We’re finally committed to letting a core grow together. It’s been a while.
天哪,格林的合同现在看来更好了,完成这笔交易做得很好。现在让我们开始比赛吧!!!我没想到这笔交易能成,而且绝对不是这个价格,简直是太划算了。很高兴我们不再处于莫雷和莱利的时代了。我们终于开始致力于让核心球员一起成长了。这已经有些时日了。
All of this tells me that there's no worthy target for the cap space next year, especially if we have to decline Fred's option to get it.
这一切告诉我,明年没有值得使用薪资空间的目标,特别是如果我们不得不拒绝范弗利特的选项来获得这个空间。
Why would Sengun sign that?
Especially for 5 years.
As a Rockets fan, I love it though.
申京为什么会签那份合同?
尤其是签了5年。
作为火箭球迷,我倒是很喜欢这个决定。
Now here's a deal everyone can get behind. Steal of a deal
现在这是个大家都支持的签约。绝对超值。
I am glad we got all the contract stuff out of the way for this season.
Now we can focus on winning.
I also want us to re-sign FVV and Steven Adams. Clearly, we are no longer looking to "maximize cap space" for a crappy FA market.
Alpi left a lot of money on the table - he is a far better player than some of the guys who got max deals.
I hope the Rockets repay his commitment later down the road, with loyalty.
很高兴我们这个赛季的合同问题都解决了。
现在我们可以专注于赢球了。
我还希望我们能重新签下范弗利特和亚当斯。显然,我们不再寻求“最大化薪资空间”来应对一个糟糕的自由球员市场。
申京放弃了很多钱——他比一些拿到顶薪合同的球员要优秀得多。
我希望火箭队将来能以忠诚回报他的承诺。
Surprised that both guys signed these contracts. Neither player thought they were a max player? They were both okay with making less than Franz, Mobley, Cade, and Barnes? Obviously good for the rockets but kind of weird that neither of these guys thought they were worth a max, and were willing to accept these deals.
两位球员都签了新合同,真是让人惊讶。难道他们都不认为自己是顶薪球员吗?他们都能接受比弗兰茨·瓦格纳(Franz Wagner)、埃文·莫布里(Evan Mobley)、凯德·坎宁安(Cade Cunningham)和斯科蒂·巴恩斯(Scottie Barnes)拿得少吗?显然这对火箭队是好事,但有点奇怪的是,这两位球员都不认为自己值得顶薪,并且愿意接受这些合同。
The biggest (third party) winner from the Sengun extension: Fred VanVleet.
The #Rockets will no longer have meaningful 2025 cap room even if they part ways with FVV. Now, the odds of VanVleet getting a new long-term deal next summer go up a lot.
申京续约的最大第三方赢家:弗雷德·范弗利特。
即使火箭队和范弗利特分道扬镳,他们也将不再拥有有意义的2025年薪资空间。现在,范弗利特明年夏天获得一份新的长期合同的可能性大大增加了。
Also:
IF SENGUN MAKES AN ALL NBA TEAM THIS SEASON, HIS DEAL DOES NOT SCALE TO A SUPERMAX!!!
I was willing to max Sengun without supermax escalators this year.
Not only did Sengun do that, he got that plus a 8M per year discount
What a masterpiece by Stone
另外:
如果申京本赛季入选NBA最佳阵容,他的合同并不会升级到超级顶薪!
我今年愿意给他一个没有超级顶薪升级条款的顶薪合同。
申京不仅做到了这一点,他还做出了每年800万美元的折扣。
斯通的这笔操作真是杰作。
Stone hit two home runs in one inning.
斯通在一局中打出了两个本垒打。
Wow, another very team-friendly deal by Stone. Starting to look like his only real weakness as a GM so far is making trades. Surprised Sengun didn't get the full max tbh but can't argue with having more financial flexibility for when we have to pay Amen down the line.
哇,斯通又达成了一个非常有利于球队的合同。目前来看,作为总经理,他唯一的真正弱点似乎是进行交易。说实话,我没想到申京没有得到全额顶薪,但我们不能否认,为了将来支付阿门的薪水,拥有更多的薪金灵活性是有道理的。
This is how they keep the core 7 together. Slightly less than max for all 7. Pay the tax bill. Keep the guys together. LOVE IT!
这就是他们如何保持七子的策略。给所有7人都提供略低于顶薪的合同。支付奢侈税。保持团队的团结。爱了爱了
I’m so happy for him. If not for the injury late in the season, I believe we make the playoffs
I need the big fella to give me 25 10
Let’s go!!!!!!!!!
我真为他感到高兴。如果不是因为赛季末的伤病,我相信我们能进入季后赛。
我需要这位大个子给我带来场均25分10篮板的表现。
让我们加油!!!
Great deal for Sengun — smart and conservative you know what you’re going to get for the next 5 years on both sides of the contract. Getting the bag seemed to be really important to him so hopefully he’s at peace now and can focus purely on basketball. Good value for us and tip of the hat to Alpie for leaving 40Ms on the table.
对申京来说,这是一份很棒的合同——聪明且保守,你知道未来5年合同双方将得到什么。对他来说,拿到这笔钱似乎非常重要,所以希望他现在能够安心,并且可以专注于篮球。对我们来说是很好的价值,也要向他致敬,他放弃了桌上的4000万美元。
Imo injury from last year made Sengun to want stability. There is always the risk of a major injury happening and the promised deal going down the drain if he accepts waiting until the next off-season.
This should be the main reason. I don't think Sengun is the type to undervalue himself.
我认为去年的伤病让申京想要稳定。总是存在发生重大伤病的风险,如果他接受等到下一个休赛期,承诺的合同可能会泡汤。
这应该是主要原因。我不认为申京是那种会低估自己的人。
There was no doubt in my mind Green would not accept a max and we were going to have to let him walk or panic trade him.
Same in expecting Şengün to be a guaranteed full max.
I can’t believe Stone pulled this off. He’s been hitting on the drafts too.
He’s considerably better than Morey if he pulls this off and this team makes a solid run in the next few seasons. Morey honestly gets too much credit for getting lucky with Harden.
我一度坚信格林不会接受顶薪,我们可能不得不让他离开或者在恐慌中交易他。
同样,我也预期申京会得到一个有保障的全额顶薪。
我真不敢相信斯通做到了这一点。他在选秀中也做得不错。
如果他能做到这一点,并且这支球队在未来几个赛季能够稳定发展,斯通显然比莫雷更出色。莫雷因为哈登的运气而得到了太多的赞誉。
Green and Sengun partying tonight. Hope they take the team out in celebration. Great day for both of them!
格林和申京今晚要开派对了。希望他们能带全队出去庆祝。对他们俩来说,今天是个伟大的日子!
Hopefully, both Sengun and Jalen contracts are valuable to trade in the near future. I'm not a believer these two players can make us contenders.
If they're the cornerstone players, I see Jabari, Cam Whitmore, FVV, plus future draft assets being traded to bring in a game-changer player.
希望申京和格林的合同在不久的将来对交易有价值。我不相信这两位球员能让我们成为竞争者。
如果他们是基石球员,我认为贾巴里、惠特莫尔、范弗利特加上未来的选秀资产会被交易,以引入一个能改变比赛的球员。
Well it looks like my Sengun jersey is good for a few more years.
看来我的申京球衣还可以再穿几年了。
I think Sengun was just rational about his move and he knows he can perform his max when he signs the contract. There is no sacrifice on his end for the team. It is just his focus on basketball and desire to secure his future. I am almost sure he also doesn't give a sheet about what the other players signed for. Or even if he does, he will aim to show them he is the better one on the court.
我认为申京对他的决定是理性的,他知道自己在签约时能够发挥出顶薪的水平。他并没有为球队做出牺牲。这只是他专注于篮球和渴望确保自己未来的表现。我几乎可以肯定,他也不在乎其他球员签了什么合同。即使他在乎,他也会在球场上向他们展示他是更好的那一个。
Not a fan of this either. Maybe the league has changed with the new tax and trade rules, but I don’t get locking into this team like this.
I think another season of evaluation on Sengun and Green would have been well worth the potential “premiums” we could have payed if they played really well. I would have better understood committing to one of them and keeping cap flexibility open. Adding players for free through FA is big for a team that needs a ton of improvement to become a contender.
FO is banking on internal improvements and trades. I don’t really have faith in the FO with trades, we have some picks so that helps but it feels like internal improvements or bust. All of our key young players have heavy flaws, it’s far from a guarantee that any are allnba players who can be the guy for a contender.
我也不是很喜欢这个决定。也许随着新的税收和交易规则的出台,联盟已经发生了变化,但我不明白为什么要这样锁定这支球队。
我认为对申京和格林再进行一个赛季的评估会是值得的,即使他们打得非常好,我们可能需要支付潜在的“溢价”。如果他们中的一个表现出色,我会更理解承诺其中一人并保持薪资灵活性的决定。对于一个需要大量改进才能成为竞争者的球队来说,通过自由球员市场免费增加球员非常重要。
管理层正在押注内部改进和交易。我对管理层在交易方面并没有太多信心,我们有一些选秀权,这有所帮助,但感觉就像是要么内部改进,要么失败。我们所有的关键年轻球员都有严重的缺点,很难保证他们中的任何一个都能成为全明星球员,成为竞争者的关键人物。
So this combined with Green locks in a core to grow on the next 2 seasons. As crazy as it sounds, even this massive deal doesn't necessarily lock him in as the franchise centerpiece. But we did kick the can down the road a little to gives us more time to assess everybody as a potential centerpiece. Players improvement doesn't necessarily stop at year 4.
Unlike Green who has been Mr. Inconsistency, Sengun has shown consistent improvement and absolutely is worthy of this deal, hopefully he can keep taking steps to be that guy we build a title contender around.
The free agent crop looked like ass, so that probably played a big role in the choice to give up so much cap space.
这样一来,格林的合同加上申京的合同,就锁定了未来两个赛季的核心阵容。尽管听起来很疯狂,但即便是这份巨额合同也不一定将他锁定为球队的基石球员。但我们确实将问题推迟了一些,这给了我们更多时间来评估每个人作为潜在基石的可能性。球员的进步并不一定在第四年就停止。
与表现一直不稳定的格林不同,申京已经显示出了持续的进步,他绝对值得这份合同,希望他能继续迈出步伐,成为我们围绕他建立冠军竞争者的核心。
自由球员市场上的选择看起来并不怎么样,这可能是我们选择放弃这么多薪资空间的一个重要原因。
I can't believe $37M/year is considered a "steal" for a not-yet-even-an-all-star player. The max is ridiculous... This is part of what makes it so hard to care about pro sports anymore. We pay too damn much for this kind of entertainment. I can only imagine how much money the owners are printing these days...
真不敢相信每年3700万美元竟然被认为是“超值”的价格,对于一个甚至还没有成为全明星的球员来说。顶薪太离谱了……这就是为什么现在越来越难以关心职业体育的原因之一。我们为这种娱乐支付得太多了。难以想象现在的老板们赚了多少钱……
Wow. Great job by FO. I was not expecting either anytime soon, let alone both on the same day prior to season starting. Was definitely worried one or both would hold out for a max.
curious to know how this looks cap wise in 3-4 years, hopefully when these guys are in their prime and we’re legit perennial contenders.
can’t wait for Wednesday!
哇,管理层做得很棒。我没想到这么快就能达成协议,更不用说在赛季开始前的同一天就达成了两个协议。我确实担心他们中的一个或两个会坚持要求顶薪。
很好奇3-4年后的薪资帽情况会如何,希望到那时这些球员正处于巅峰时期,我们也能成为真正的常年竞争者。等不及周三的比赛了!