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你没了,詹姆斯都没不了。詹姆斯被恶犯的次数是同时代球星十倍都不止,对别人恶犯的动作在老詹身上可能都纹丝不动。看过打绿军活塞红牛步行者马刺哪个不是历史顶级防守球队,哪个没有恶人

你没了,詹姆斯都没不了。詹姆斯被恶犯的次数是同时代球星十倍都不止,对别人恶犯的动作在老詹身上可能都纹丝不动。看过打绿军活塞红牛步行者马刺哪个不是历史顶级防守球队,哪个没有恶人

奥尼尔在那个年代都没占优。

奥尼尔在那个年代都没占优。

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那没练能打21个赛季还能25+么?A.练了,能打21个赛季还能25+ 牛逼B.没练,也能打21个赛季还能25+ 更牛逼请问你选A还是B

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那没练能打21个赛季还能25+么?
A.练了,能打21个赛季还能25+ 牛逼
B.没练,也能打21个赛季还能25+ 更牛逼
请问你选A还是B

噢?你说这些跟我有啥关系呢?

噢?你说这些跟我有啥关系呢?

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真要是去了那个年代,也要搞一个垂直起跳规则不?可能一个奥克利就够他受的。

真要是去了那个年代,也要搞一个垂直起跳规则不?可能一个奥克利就够他受的。

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比起老张的大招,这种简直小菜一碟

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比起老张的大招,这种简直小菜一碟

小菜是几个菜?

小菜是几个菜?

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乔丹太强了做的好点在于,他把他该做的做到了极致吧,有人说他不全面,也是连续9场还是7场三双。得分这块真的极致,该拿下的比赛,也都拿下了。

乔丹太强了做的好点在于,他把他该做的做到了极致吧,有人说他不全面,也是连续9场还是7场三双。得分这块真的极致,该拿下的比赛,也都拿下了。

那乔丹前几年的比赛都是不该拿下的么真就只打六年比赛是吧

那乔丹前几年的比赛都是不该拿下的么真就只打六年比赛是吧

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詹姆斯207,长了4厘米[微笑]

詹姆斯207,长了4厘米[微笑]

没这么高吧206

没这么高吧206

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那么为什么怕高圆圆?

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那么为什么怕高圆圆?

怎么就怕了 我请问呢

怎么就怕了 我请问呢

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乔丹太强了做的好点在于,他把他该做的做到了极致吧,有人说他不全面,也是连续9场还是7场三双。得分这块真的极致,该拿下的比赛,也都拿下了。

乔丹太强了做的好点在于,他把他该做的做到了极致吧,有人说他不全面,也是连续9场还是7场三双。得分这块真的极致,该拿下的比赛,也都拿下了。

他那连续三双是牺牲战绩纯在那刷

他那连续三双是牺牲战绩纯在那刷

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一直看过来的,所以很清楚现在的体毛规则福利有多少,nba官方都承认,只有某些人自我麻醉

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一直看过来的,所以很清楚现在的体毛规则福利有多少,nba官方都承认,只有某些人自我麻醉

看过来个屁,看过来会不知道01年以后才有的联防

看过来个屁,看过来会不知道01年以后才有的联防

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看过来个屁,看过来会不知道01年以后才有的联防

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看过来个屁,看过来会不知道01年以后才有的联防

第一,过去有没有人球员教练原话给了,看不懂是你的事,第二,02赛季nba开始用的联防是有防守三秒的阉割版联防,使用回合率低的可怕,只针对少数投篮差的球员才用,基本都不用。球盲是这样的

第一,过去有没有人球员教练原话给了,看不懂是你的事,第二,02赛季nba开始用的联防是有防守三秒的阉割版联防,使用回合率低的可怕,只针对少数投篮差的球员才用,基本都不用。球盲是这样的

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你真的不懂球啊 40岁的詹姆斯在国际篮联都可以随便突 国际篮联也是没有三秒的 你觉得巅峰时期120多公斤的勒布朗詹姆斯对内线的冲击有多恐怖 什么叫运球违例吹罚严格 乔丹怎么不吹 巴克利怎么不吹 他们运球违例可多了 还有90年代非球星球员的身体 普遍比较差 詹姆斯这身体素质就跟欺负小朋友一样 还有你要知道热火詹投篮稳定性极高 三分中投 命中率都是在四成以上 还有稳定的背身后仰跳投 而且估计你也没看过幼詹怎么打球的 那时候联盟普遍认为詹姆斯打球像麦迪 如果还不明白那请你再去补充一下吧

你真的不懂球啊 40岁的詹姆斯在国际篮联都可以随便突 国际篮联也是没有三秒的 你觉得巅峰时期120多公斤的勒布朗詹姆斯对内线的冲击有多恐怖 什么叫运球违例吹罚严格 乔丹怎么不吹 巴克利怎么不吹 他们运球违例可多了 还有90年代非球星球员的身体 普遍比较差 詹姆斯这身体素质就跟欺负小朋友一样 还有你要知道热火詹投篮稳定性极高 三分中投 命中率都是在四成以上 还有稳定的背身后仰跳投 而且估计你也没看过幼詹怎么打球的 那时候联盟普遍认为詹姆斯打球像麦迪 如果还不明白那请你再去补充一下吧

90年代nba没有合理冲撞区,没有四步上篮,国际比赛规则现在也有了,因为美国队人员配置的关系,詹姆斯比在nba受到的包夹还少,你用美国队现在的配置打法规则来代换90年代nba规则,只能说确实球盲。

90年代nba没有合理冲撞区,没有四步上篮,国际比赛规则现在也有了,因为美国队人员配置的关系,詹姆斯比在nba受到的包夹还少,你用美国队现在的配置打法规则来代换90年代nba规则,只能说确实球盲。

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第一,过去有没有人球员教练原话给了,看不懂是你的事,第二,02赛季nba开始用的联防是有防守三秒的阉割版联防,使用回合率低的可怕,只针对少数投篮差的球员才用,基本都不用。球盲是这样的

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第一,过去有没有人球员教练原话给了,看不懂是你的事,第二,02赛季nba开始用的联防是有防守三秒的阉割版联防,使用回合率低的可怕,只针对少数投篮差的球员才用,基本都不用。球盲是这样的

使用率低的可怜跟90年代没有联防没有防守三秒有毛关系?嗯?你有逻辑吗?

使用率低的可怜跟90年代没有联防没有防守三秒有毛关系?嗯?你有逻辑吗?

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使用率低的可怜跟90年代没有联防没有防守三秒有毛关系?嗯?你有逻辑吗?

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使用率低的可怜跟90年代没有联防没有防守三秒有毛关系?嗯?你有逻辑吗?

用没有,球员说的不很清楚了吗?还是你连字都看不懂?

用没有,球员说的不很清楚了吗?还是你连字都看不懂?

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使用率低的可怜跟90年代没有联防没有防守三秒有毛关系?嗯?你有逻辑吗?

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使用率低的可怜跟90年代没有联防没有防守三秒有毛关系?嗯?你有逻辑吗?

”我们的球队现在就一直用联防,不管规则如何。我们不把那用”联防“这个词称呼,但那其实就是联防”。



What particularly
bothers Motta is that many teams try to get away with zone defenses now,
content to only be penalized by a technical foul. "Our teams are zoning now. Rule or no
rule. We're not allowed to use the word `zone' but it's a zone," Motta said.
-THE NBA HAS THIS RULE ABOUT ILLEGAL DEFENSE, BUT WHO CAN EXPLAIN IT, AND
WILL IT EVER GO AWAY? A TWILIGHT ZONE (LA Daily News April 14, 1996 Scott Wolf)



“我们了解规则”, 爵士前锋布朗说,”我们利用2.9秒时限,不停的在盯人和联防状态反复切换,所以实际上,我们通常不会被吹太多非法防守。"



"We know the rules," burly forward Mike Brown said. "We take advantage of the 2.9 seconds, going down and coming back. And usually, we don't get too many zone defense calls.
-NOTEBOOK; No Matter What They Call It, Jazz Dials Z for (Illegal) Zone, David Aldridge Washington Post, May 19, 1992


It didn't take New Jersey coach Dave Wohl five minutes to analyze Albeck's
milestone.
"The Bulls played well but they blatantly played illegal defense all
night," said Wohl, whose team shot .400 from the floor, "and the
officials did a horrible job calling it.
"I've got the films and
I am sending them to the league office. I would like to play zone, too. If the
refs can't see it something is wrong. They were basically playing a college
zone, not switching and guarding certain areas." Despite a height disadvantage
at every spot, the Bulls outrebounded New Jersey's front line 33-29 and put the
game away when Orlando Woolridge came off the bench smoking.
-Bulls get Albeck No. 300 Chicago Sun Times, March 12, 1986 (Mark Vancil)
Jack McCloskey, Detroit general manager: "The other thing of interest to me is the
advent of zone defenses in general. If the lack of recognition continues,
they'll have to give the offenses more time to set up. I know the things we're
doing ourselves, and what teams like New York and Los Angeles are doing, and I
don't like it. We
are playing a lot of illegal defenses, and the offenses don't have a chance to
attack.
-CLEVELAND LOOKS GOOD FROM INSIDE, Boston Globe/Bob Ryan January 8, 1989
Of course, Don Nelson
plays the best zones that are never called. His Warriors have Chris Mullin,
Mitch Richmond and a defense that funnels everything in to Manute Bol when he's
in the game. And Golden State outrebounded Utah by an average of 51-41 in the four
games
-The Teams of the '90s Key Up for a Head Start Washington Post/David
Aldridge April 27, 1989
Johnson applauded Riley's switch to a trapping defense in the second half after
the Suns led 54-50 at halftime Friday night.
The Suns have been hampered by poor outside shooting throughout the series, and Phoenix coach
Cotton Fitzsimmons has complained that the Lakers are playing an illegal zone
defense.
Phoenix has shot 51, 42 and 46 percent in the first three games, compared with
60, 45 and 49 percent for Los Angeles.
Suns guard Jeff Hornacek said, "We've been an outside shooting team all
year and we expect our outside shooting to take us through it. But when you're not
hitting outside shots, their zone looks like it works a lot more."
-Lakers poised to whisk away Suns, Chicago Sun Times May 28, 1989
Both the Lakers and Pistons know what Los Angeles must do to compensate to make
this series competitive once more. First, crash the boards. "Keeping them
from second shots is probably the key to the series," said Pistons Coach
Chuck Daly. Then,
play more (don't tell anybody) zone defense, funneling the little Pistons
guards to Abdul-Jabbar.
-Scott's Injury Has Mates Hamstrung, The Washington Post, June 8, 1989.
Thomas Boswell
Despite the injuries, the Lakers were hardly playing like a desperate team.
Instead, they were relying on the resurgent offense of Abdul-Jabbar and the
explosive moves of James Worthy (26). Defensively, LA defied the bylaws of the NBA
and stuck with a trapping zone defense to minimize Detroit's quickness.
-PISTONS ROLL TO 3-0 LEAD, Boston Globe Jackie McMullen, June 12, 1989
Sunday's final day of meetings likely will result in minor changes in
interpretation of zone rules, with coaches and officials spending time on the
court at the nearby College of the Desert.
During the NBA finals
last June, Los Angeles Lakers coaches and players spoke about their
understanding of "zone principles" that allowed them to trap teams
without being called for a technical foul for playing a zone defense. Phoenix
Suns Coach Cotton Fitzsimmons complained long and loud about officials not
calling the zone, which frustrated guard Kevin Johnson.
-PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL; Small Talk Is the Big Thing As NBA Meetings
Wind Down, Washington Post, David Aldrige, September 17, 1989
Coach of the Year: Pat Riley, Lakers. Riley's psychological efforts never have
been more needed. His team still is playing at an unbelievably high level, and
someone other than the players has to keep their interests razor-sharp. And no team plays
better zone defense (oops, can't say that) in the playoffs. Riley's made a
cottage industry out of never being coach of the year. That should change.
-On the NBA's Best-of List: Barkley, Riley, Robinson, Seikaly, Washington
Post David Aldridge, April 11, 1990
In a news conference Wednesday morning, a rare opportunity to pick the brain of
a game official, Strom shared some of his opinions on the state of NBA
officiating.
On zone defenses:
"The referees, to a man, would love to see it done away with. They don't
like calling it zone defense because they do allow certain zones to be played. I think they're
legislating against teams playing good team defenses, which I think is
wrong."
-NOTEBOOK; Pistons' Dumars Delivers a Public Thank You, Washington Post,
David Aldridge June 14, 1990
Pippen's ability to
roam puts a spark into the Bulls' effective zone press that worked so well
for the early 1970s Knicks teams that coach Phil Jackson played on. The zone press forces
opponents in a preferred direction, and fans can expect the Bulls to continue
picking their spots with the press for the rest of the season.
-Bulls put pride in defense, Chicago Sun Times, Dave Hoekstra, Feb 25, 1991
Magic dictated the slower pace at one end, and had the Lakers' defense sagging back in
a barely disguised zone to keep Jordan and Pippen from penetrating. "We
underestimated their defense," Grant said. "They sagged and we
settled for jump shots."
-Single Hand Can't Top Team Magic, Washington Post, Michael Wilbon June
3, 1991
Watch the Utah Jazz walk the fine line between a legal and an illegal defense.
See Mark Eaton dance - as well as a 7-foot-4, 300-pound man can dance - across
the lane for 2.9 seconds, just avoiding the zone defense call.
There's John Stockton, not really guarding his man, but getting close to him
just in time to escape the whistle. There are double-teams off the ball, which
aren't supposed to be legal, but they are just for a fraction of a second, just
time enough to throw an offense off stride.
The Jazz is all about Karl Malone running the floor as well as any big man
alive, and Stockton finding the open man as well as any guard alive, and Jeff
Malone shooting the jumper as pure as anyone in the game. But they're mainly
about zone defense, which is supposed to be illegal in the NBA.
"We come as close as possible" to playing zone, Eaton acknowledges.
"You have to have the ability to help and you have to be able to shut down
the middle. And to be able to do that, you have to push it to the edge."
Coach Jerry Sloan, who spent a career knocking opposing guards upside the head
in Chicago, says this isn't his ideal, only an appreciation of his personnel.
"I like to run as much as anyone else," he said. "When I was in
college we used to score 100 points seven or eight times a year. But with Mark
Eaton on the floor, we can't run fast. We can't give them 100 {points}, because
we probably won't score more than that. That's who we are and that's who we've
been for years."
How do they get away with it? It starts with Eaton, who camps out in the lane
as long as possible, shaded toward his man, but gets out just before it's too
late. Stockton lingers when the ball goes inside, not quite double-teaming, not
quite going back to his man. Thus he's able to help in any direction - inside,
against people cutting down the lane and against his own man.
"We know the
rules,"

”我们的球队现在就一直用联防,不管规则如何。我们不把那用”联防“这个词称呼,但那其实就是联防”。



What particularly
bothers Motta is that many teams try to get away with zone defenses now,
content to only be penalized by a technical foul. "Our teams are zoning now. Rule or no
rule. We're not allowed to use the word `zone' but it's a zone," Motta said.
-THE NBA HAS THIS RULE ABOUT ILLEGAL DEFENSE, BUT WHO CAN EXPLAIN IT, AND
WILL IT EVER GO AWAY? A TWILIGHT ZONE (LA Daily News April 14, 1996 Scott Wolf)



“我们了解规则”, 爵士前锋布朗说,”我们利用2.9秒时限,不停的在盯人和联防状态反复切换,所以实际上,我们通常不会被吹太多非法防守。"



"We know the rules," burly forward Mike Brown said. "We take advantage of the 2.9 seconds, going down and coming back. And usually, we don't get too many zone defense calls.
-NOTEBOOK; No Matter What They Call It, Jazz Dials Z for (Illegal) Zone, David Aldridge Washington Post, May 19, 1992


It didn't take New Jersey coach Dave Wohl five minutes to analyze Albeck's
milestone.
"The Bulls played well but they blatantly played illegal defense all
night," said Wohl, whose team shot .400 from the floor, "and the
officials did a horrible job calling it.
"I've got the films and
I am sending them to the league office. I would like to play zone, too. If the
refs can't see it something is wrong. They were basically playing a college
zone, not switching and guarding certain areas." Despite a height disadvantage
at every spot, the Bulls outrebounded New Jersey's front line 33-29 and put the
game away when Orlando Woolridge came off the bench smoking.
-Bulls get Albeck No. 300 Chicago Sun Times, March 12, 1986 (Mark Vancil)
Jack McCloskey, Detroit general manager: "The other thing of interest to me is the
advent of zone defenses in general. If the lack of recognition continues,
they'll have to give the offenses more time to set up. I know the things we're
doing ourselves, and what teams like New York and Los Angeles are doing, and I
don't like it. We
are playing a lot of illegal defenses, and the offenses don't have a chance to
attack.
-CLEVELAND LOOKS GOOD FROM INSIDE, Boston Globe/Bob Ryan January 8, 1989
Of course, Don Nelson
plays the best zones that are never called. His Warriors have Chris Mullin,
Mitch Richmond and a defense that funnels everything in to Manute Bol when he's
in the game. And Golden State outrebounded Utah by an average of 51-41 in the four
games
-The Teams of the '90s Key Up for a Head Start Washington Post/David
Aldridge April 27, 1989
Johnson applauded Riley's switch to a trapping defense in the second half after
the Suns led 54-50 at halftime Friday night.
The Suns have been hampered by poor outside shooting throughout the series, and Phoenix coach
Cotton Fitzsimmons has complained that the Lakers are playing an illegal zone
defense.
Phoenix has shot 51, 42 and 46 percent in the first three games, compared with
60, 45 and 49 percent for Los Angeles.
Suns guard Jeff Hornacek said, "We've been an outside shooting team all
year and we expect our outside shooting to take us through it. But when you're not
hitting outside shots, their zone looks like it works a lot more."
-Lakers poised to whisk away Suns, Chicago Sun Times May 28, 1989
Both the Lakers and Pistons know what Los Angeles must do to compensate to make
this series competitive once more. First, crash the boards. "Keeping them
from second shots is probably the key to the series," said Pistons Coach
Chuck Daly. Then,
play more (don't tell anybody) zone defense, funneling the little Pistons
guards to Abdul-Jabbar.
-Scott's Injury Has Mates Hamstrung, The Washington Post, June 8, 1989.
Thomas Boswell
Despite the injuries, the Lakers were hardly playing like a desperate team.
Instead, they were relying on the resurgent offense of Abdul-Jabbar and the
explosive moves of James Worthy (26). Defensively, LA defied the bylaws of the NBA
and stuck with a trapping zone defense to minimize Detroit's quickness.
-PISTONS ROLL TO 3-0 LEAD, Boston Globe Jackie McMullen, June 12, 1989
Sunday's final day of meetings likely will result in minor changes in
interpretation of zone rules, with coaches and officials spending time on the
court at the nearby College of the Desert.
During the NBA finals
last June, Los Angeles Lakers coaches and players spoke about their
understanding of "zone principles" that allowed them to trap teams
without being called for a technical foul for playing a zone defense. Phoenix
Suns Coach Cotton Fitzsimmons complained long and loud about officials not
calling the zone, which frustrated guard Kevin Johnson.
-PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL; Small Talk Is the Big Thing As NBA Meetings
Wind Down, Washington Post, David Aldrige, September 17, 1989
Coach of the Year: Pat Riley, Lakers. Riley's psychological efforts never have
been more needed. His team still is playing at an unbelievably high level, and
someone other than the players has to keep their interests razor-sharp. And no team plays
better zone defense (oops, can't say that) in the playoffs. Riley's made a
cottage industry out of never being coach of the year. That should change.
-On the NBA's Best-of List: Barkley, Riley, Robinson, Seikaly, Washington
Post David Aldridge, April 11, 1990
In a news conference Wednesday morning, a rare opportunity to pick the brain of
a game official, Strom shared some of his opinions on the state of NBA
officiating.
On zone defenses:
"The referees, to a man, would love to see it done away with. They don't
like calling it zone defense because they do allow certain zones to be played. I think they're
legislating against teams playing good team defenses, which I think is
wrong."
-NOTEBOOK; Pistons' Dumars Delivers a Public Thank You, Washington Post,
David Aldridge June 14, 1990
Pippen's ability to
roam puts a spark into the Bulls' effective zone press that worked so well
for the early 1970s Knicks teams that coach Phil Jackson played on. The zone press forces
opponents in a preferred direction, and fans can expect the Bulls to continue
picking their spots with the press for the rest of the season.
-Bulls put pride in defense, Chicago Sun Times, Dave Hoekstra, Feb 25, 1991
Magic dictated the slower pace at one end, and had the Lakers' defense sagging back in
a barely disguised zone to keep Jordan and Pippen from penetrating. "We
underestimated their defense," Grant said. "They sagged and we
settled for jump shots."
-Single Hand Can't Top Team Magic, Washington Post, Michael Wilbon June
3, 1991
Watch the Utah Jazz walk the fine line between a legal and an illegal defense.
See Mark Eaton dance - as well as a 7-foot-4, 300-pound man can dance - across
the lane for 2.9 seconds, just avoiding the zone defense call.
There's John Stockton, not really guarding his man, but getting close to him
just in time to escape the whistle. There are double-teams off the ball, which
aren't supposed to be legal, but they are just for a fraction of a second, just
time enough to throw an offense off stride.
The Jazz is all about Karl Malone running the floor as well as any big man
alive, and Stockton finding the open man as well as any guard alive, and Jeff
Malone shooting the jumper as pure as anyone in the game. But they're mainly
about zone defense, which is supposed to be illegal in the NBA.
"We come as close as possible" to playing zone, Eaton acknowledges.
"You have to have the ability to help and you have to be able to shut down
the middle. And to be able to do that, you have to push it to the edge."
Coach Jerry Sloan, who spent a career knocking opposing guards upside the head
in Chicago, says this isn't his ideal, only an appreciation of his personnel.
"I like to run as much as anyone else," he said. "When I was in
college we used to score 100 points seven or eight times a year. But with Mark
Eaton on the floor, we can't run fast. We can't give them 100 {points}, because
we probably won't score more than that. That's who we are and that's who we've
been for years."
How do they get away with it? It starts with Eaton, who camps out in the lane
as long as possible, shaded toward his man, but gets out just before it's too
late. Stockton lingers when the ball goes inside, not quite double-teaming, not
quite going back to his man. Thus he's able to help in any direction - inside,
against people cutting down the lane and against his own man.
"We know the
rules,"

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”我们的球队现在就一直用联防,不管规则如何。我们不把那用”联防“这个词称呼,但那其实就是联防”。What particularlybothers Motta is that many teams try to get away with zone defenses now,content to only be penalized by a technical foul. "Our teams are zoning now. Rule or norule. We're not allowed to use the word `zone' but it's a zone," Motta said.-THE NBA HAS THIS RULE ABOUT ILLEGAL DEFENSE, BUT WHO CAN EXPLAIN IT, ANDWILL IT EVER GO AWAY? A TWILIGHT ZONE (LA Daily News April 14, 1996 Scott Wolf)“我们了解规则”, 爵士前锋布朗说,”我们利用2.9秒时限,不停的在盯人和联防状态反复切换,所以实际上,我们通常不会被吹太多非法防守。""We know the rules," burly forward Mike Brown said. "We take advantage of the 2.9 seconds, going down and coming back. And usually, we don't get too many zone defense calls.-NOTEBOOK; No Matter What They Call It, Jazz Dials Z for (Illegal) Zone, David Aldridge Washington Post, May 19, 1992It didn't take New Jersey coach Dave Wohl five minutes to analyze Albeck'smilestone."The Bulls played well but they blatantly played illegal defense allnight," said Wohl, whose team shot .400 from the floor, "and theofficials did a horrible job calling it."I've got the films andI am sending them to the league office. I would like to play zone, too. If therefs can't see it something is wrong. They were basically playing a collegezone, not switching and guarding certain areas." Despite a height disadvantageat every spot, the Bulls outrebounded New Jersey's front line 33-29 and put thegame away when Orlando Woolridge came off the bench smoking.-Bulls get Albeck No. 300 Chicago Sun Times, March 12, 1986 (Mark Vancil)Jack McCloskey, Detroit general manager: "The other thing of interest to me is theadvent of zone defenses in general. If the lack of recognition continues,they'll have to give the offenses more time to set up. I know the things we'redoing ourselves, and what teams like New York and Los Angeles are doing, and Idon't like it. Weare playing a lot of illegal defenses, and the offenses don't have a chance toattack.-CLEVELAND LOOKS GOOD FROM INSIDE, Boston Globe/Bob Ryan January 8, 1989Of course, Don Nelsonplays the best zones that are never called. His Warriors have Chris Mullin,Mitch Richmond and a defense that funnels everything in to Manute Bol when he'sin the game. And Golden State outrebounded Utah by an average of 51-41 in the fourgames-The Teams of the '90s Key Up for a Head Start Washington Post/DavidAldridge April 27, 1989Johnson applauded Riley's switch to a trapping defense in the second half afterthe Suns led 54-50 at halftime Friday night.The Suns have been hampered by poor outside shooting throughout the series, and Phoenix coachCotton Fitzsimmons has complained that the Lakers are playing an illegal zonedefense.Phoenix has shot 51, 42 and 46 percent in the first three games, compared with60, 45 and 49 percent for Los Angeles.Suns guard Jeff Hornacek said, "We've been an outside shooting team allyear and we expect our outside shooting to take us through it. But when you're nothitting outside shots, their zone looks like it works a lot more."-Lakers poised to whisk away Suns, Chicago Sun Times May 28, 1989Both the Lakers and Pistons know what Los Angeles must do to compensate to makethis series competitive once more. First, crash the boards. "Keeping themfrom second shots is probably the key to the series," said Pistons CoachChuck Daly. Then,play more (don't tell anybody) zone defense, funneling the little Pistonsguards to Abdul-Jabbar.-Scott's Injury Has Mates Hamstrung, The Washington Post, June 8, 1989.Thomas BoswellDespite the injuries, the Lakers were hardly playing like a desperate team.Instead, they were relying on the resurgent offense of Abdul-Jabbar and theexplosive moves of James Worthy (26). Defensively, LA defied the bylaws of the NBAand stuck with a trapping zone defense to minimize Detroit's quickness.-PISTONS ROLL TO 3-0 LEAD, Boston Globe Jackie McMullen, June 12, 1989Sunday's final day of meetings likely will result in minor changes ininterpretation of zone rules, with coaches and officials spending time on thecourt at the nearby College of the Desert.During the NBA finalslast June, Los Angeles Lakers coaches and players spoke about theirunderstanding of "zone principles" that allowed them to trap teamswithout being called for a technical foul for playing a zone defense. PhoenixSuns Coach Cotton Fitzsimmons complained long and loud about officials notcalling the zone, which frustrated guard Kevin Johnson.-PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL; Small Talk Is the Big Thing As NBA MeetingsWind Down, Washington Post, David Aldrige, September 17, 1989Coach of the Year: Pat Riley, Lakers. Riley's psychological efforts never havebeen more needed. His team still is playing at an unbelievably high level, andsomeone other than the players has to keep their interests razor-sharp. And no team playsbetter zone defense (oops, can't say that) in the playoffs. Riley's made acottage industry out of never being coach of the year. That should change.-On the NBA's Best-of List: Barkley, Riley, Robinson, Seikaly, WashingtonPost David Aldridge, April 11, 1990In a news conference Wednesday morning, a rare opportunity to pick the brain ofa game official, Strom shared some of his opinions on the state of NBAofficiating.On zone defenses:"The referees, to a man, would love to see it done away with. They don'tlike calling it zone defense because they do allow certain zones to be played. I think they'relegislating against teams playing good team defenses, which I think iswrong."-NOTEBOOK; Pistons' Dumars Delivers a Public Thank You, Washington Post,David Aldridge June 14, 1990Pippen's ability toroam puts a spark into the Bulls' effective zone press that worked so wellfor the early 1970s Knicks teams that coach Phil Jackson played on. The zone press forcesopponents in a preferred direction, and fans can expect the Bulls to continuepicking their spots with the press for the rest of the season.-Bulls put pride in defense, Chicago Sun Times, Dave Hoekstra, Feb 25, 1991Magic dictated the slower pace at one end, and had the Lakers' defense sagging back ina barely disguised zone to keep Jordan and Pippen from penetrating. "Weunderestimated their defense," Grant said. "They sagged and wesettled for jump shots."-Single Hand Can't Top Team Magic, Washington Post, Michael Wilbon June3, 1991Watch the Utah Jazz walk the fine line between a legal and an illegal defense.See Mark Eaton dance - as well as a 7-foot-4, 300-pound man can dance - acrossthe lane for 2.9 seconds, just avoiding the zone defense call.There's John Stockton, not really guarding his man, but getting close to himjust in time to escape the whistle. There are double-teams off the ball, whicharen't supposed to be legal, but they are just for a fraction of a second, justtime enough to throw an offense off stride.The Jazz is all about Karl Malone running the floor as well as any big manalive, and Stockton finding the open man as well as any guard alive, and JeffMalone shooting the jumper as pure as anyone in the game. But they're mainlyabout zone defense, which is supposed to be illegal in the NBA."We come as close as possible" to playing zone, Eaton acknowledges."You have to have the ability to help and you have to be able to shut downthe middle. And to be able to do that, you have to push it to the edge."Coach Jerry Sloan, who spent a career knocking opposing guards upside the headin Chicago, says this isn't his ideal, only an appreciation of his personnel."I like to run as much as anyone else," he said. "When I was incollege we used to score 100 points seven or eight times a year. But with MarkEaton on the floor, we can't run fast. We can't give them 100 {points}, becausewe probably won't score more than that. That's who we are and that's who we'vebeen for years."How do they get away with it? It starts with Eaton, who camps out in the laneas long as possible, shaded toward his man, but gets out just before it's toolate. Stockton lingers when the ball goes inside, not quite double-teaming, notquite going back to his man. Thus he's able to help in any direction - inside,against people cutting down the lane and against his own man."We know therules,"

”我们的球队现在就一直用联防,不管规则如何。我们不把那用”联防“这个词称呼,但那其实就是联防”。



What particularly
bothers Motta is that many teams try to get away with zone defenses now,
content to only be penalized by a technical foul. "Our teams are zoning now. Rule or no
rule. We're not allowed to use the word `zone' but it's a zone," Motta said.
-THE NBA HAS THIS RULE ABOUT ILLEGAL DEFENSE, BUT WHO CAN EXPLAIN IT, AND
WILL IT EVER GO AWAY? A TWILIGHT ZONE (LA Daily News April 14, 1996 Scott Wolf)



“我们了解规则”, 爵士前锋布朗说,”我们利用2.9秒时限,不停的在盯人和联防状态反复切换,所以实际上,我们通常不会被吹太多非法防守。"



"We know the rules," burly forward Mike Brown said. "We take advantage of the 2.9 seconds, going down and coming back. And usually, we don't get too many zone defense calls.
-NOTEBOOK; No Matter What They Call It, Jazz Dials Z for (Illegal) Zone, David Aldridge Washington Post, May 19, 1992


It didn't take New Jersey coach Dave Wohl five minutes to analyze Albeck's
milestone.
"The Bulls played well but they blatantly played illegal defense all
night," said Wohl, whose team shot .400 from the floor, "and the
officials did a horrible job calling it.
"I've got the films and
I am sending them to the league office. I would like to play zone, too. If the
refs can't see it something is wrong. They were basically playing a college
zone, not switching and guarding certain areas." Despite a height disadvantage
at every spot, the Bulls outrebounded New Jersey's front line 33-29 and put the
game away when Orlando Woolridge came off the bench smoking.
-Bulls get Albeck No. 300 Chicago Sun Times, March 12, 1986 (Mark Vancil)
Jack McCloskey, Detroit general manager: "The other thing of interest to me is the
advent of zone defenses in general. If the lack of recognition continues,
they'll have to give the offenses more time to set up. I know the things we're
doing ourselves, and what teams like New York and Los Angeles are doing, and I
don't like it. We
are playing a lot of illegal defenses, and the offenses don't have a chance to
attack.
-CLEVELAND LOOKS GOOD FROM INSIDE, Boston Globe/Bob Ryan January 8, 1989
Of course, Don Nelson
plays the best zones that are never called. His Warriors have Chris Mullin,
Mitch Richmond and a defense that funnels everything in to Manute Bol when he's
in the game. And Golden State outrebounded Utah by an average of 51-41 in the four
games
-The Teams of the '90s Key Up for a Head Start Washington Post/David
Aldridge April 27, 1989
Johnson applauded Riley's switch to a trapping defense in the second half after
the Suns led 54-50 at halftime Friday night.
The Suns have been hampered by poor outside shooting throughout the series, and Phoenix coach
Cotton Fitzsimmons has complained that the Lakers are playing an illegal zone
defense.
Phoenix has shot 51, 42 and 46 percent in the first three games, compared with
60, 45 and 49 percent for Los Angeles.
Suns guard Jeff Hornacek said, "We've been an outside shooting team all
year and we expect our outside shooting to take us through it. But when you're not
hitting outside shots, their zone looks like it works a lot more."
-Lakers poised to whisk away Suns, Chicago Sun Times May 28, 1989
Both the Lakers and Pistons know what Los Angeles must do to compensate to make
this series competitive once more. First, crash the boards. "Keeping them
from second shots is probably the key to the series," said Pistons Coach
Chuck Daly. Then,
play more (don't tell anybody) zone defense, funneling the little Pistons
guards to Abdul-Jabbar.
-Scott's Injury Has Mates Hamstrung, The Washington Post, June 8, 1989.
Thomas Boswell
Despite the injuries, the Lakers were hardly playing like a desperate team.
Instead, they were relying on the resurgent offense of Abdul-Jabbar and the
explosive moves of James Worthy (26). Defensively, LA defied the bylaws of the NBA
and stuck with a trapping zone defense to minimize Detroit's quickness.
-PISTONS ROLL TO 3-0 LEAD, Boston Globe Jackie McMullen, June 12, 1989
Sunday's final day of meetings likely will result in minor changes in
interpretation of zone rules, with coaches and officials spending time on the
court at the nearby College of the Desert.
During the NBA finals
last June, Los Angeles Lakers coaches and players spoke about their
understanding of "zone principles" that allowed them to trap teams
without being called for a technical foul for playing a zone defense. Phoenix
Suns Coach Cotton Fitzsimmons complained long and loud about officials not
calling the zone, which frustrated guard Kevin Johnson.
-PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL; Small Talk Is the Big Thing As NBA Meetings
Wind Down, Washington Post, David Aldrige, September 17, 1989
Coach of the Year: Pat Riley, Lakers. Riley's psychological efforts never have
been more needed. His team still is playing at an unbelievably high level, and
someone other than the players has to keep their interests razor-sharp. And no team plays
better zone defense (oops, can't say that) in the playoffs. Riley's made a
cottage industry out of never being coach of the year. That should change.
-On the NBA's Best-of List: Barkley, Riley, Robinson, Seikaly, Washington
Post David Aldridge, April 11, 1990
In a news conference Wednesday morning, a rare opportunity to pick the brain of
a game official, Strom shared some of his opinions on the state of NBA
officiating.
On zone defenses:
"The referees, to a man, would love to see it done away with. They don't
like calling it zone defense because they do allow certain zones to be played. I think they're
legislating against teams playing good team defenses, which I think is
wrong."
-NOTEBOOK; Pistons' Dumars Delivers a Public Thank You, Washington Post,
David Aldridge June 14, 1990
Pippen's ability to
roam puts a spark into the Bulls' effective zone press that worked so well
for the early 1970s Knicks teams that coach Phil Jackson played on. The zone press forces
opponents in a preferred direction, and fans can expect the Bulls to continue
picking their spots with the press for the rest of the season.
-Bulls put pride in defense, Chicago Sun Times, Dave Hoekstra, Feb 25, 1991
Magic dictated the slower pace at one end, and had the Lakers' defense sagging back in
a barely disguised zone to keep Jordan and Pippen from penetrating. "We
underestimated their defense," Grant said. "They sagged and we
settled for jump shots."
-Single Hand Can't Top Team Magic, Washington Post, Michael Wilbon June
3, 1991
Watch the Utah Jazz walk the fine line between a legal and an illegal defense.
See Mark Eaton dance - as well as a 7-foot-4, 300-pound man can dance - across
the lane for 2.9 seconds, just avoiding the zone defense call.
There's John Stockton, not really guarding his man, but getting close to him
just in time to escape the whistle. There are double-teams off the ball, which
aren't supposed to be legal, but they are just for a fraction of a second, just
time enough to throw an offense off stride.
The Jazz is all about Karl Malone running the floor as well as any big man
alive, and Stockton finding the open man as well as any guard alive, and Jeff
Malone shooting the jumper as pure as anyone in the game. But they're mainly
about zone defense, which is supposed to be illegal in the NBA.
"We come as close as possible" to playing zone, Eaton acknowledges.
"You have to have the ability to help and you have to be able to shut down
the middle. And to be able to do that, you have to push it to the edge."
Coach Jerry Sloan, who spent a career knocking opposing guards upside the head
in Chicago, says this isn't his ideal, only an appreciation of his personnel.
"I like to run as much as anyone else," he said. "When I was in
college we used to score 100 points seven or eight times a year. But with Mark
Eaton on the floor, we can't run fast. We can't give them 100 {points}, because
we probably won't score more than that. That's who we are and that's who we've
been for years."
How do they get away with it? It starts with Eaton, who camps out in the lane
as long as possible, shaded toward his man, but gets out just before it's too
late. Stockton lingers when the ball goes inside, not quite double-teaming, not
quite going back to his man. Thus he's able to help in any direction - inside,
against people cutting down the lane and against his own man.
"We know the
rules,"

你真看过90年代比赛吗?我要是找出几个因为联防被吹非法防守的你是不是磕几个?不允许联防是官方规则,某几个球员说的有屁用啊?

你真看过90年代比赛吗?我要是找出几个因为联防被吹非法防守的你是不是磕几个?不允许联防是官方规则,某几个球员说的有屁用啊?

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