北京时间5月25日，NBA季后赛西部决赛G2，独行侠在客场凭借东契奇的三分绝杀，109-108险胜森林狼，大比分2-0领先。本场比赛东欧继续发力，东契奇全场砍下32分10篮板13助攻、欧文20分4篮板6助攻，带领球队拿下比赛。
赛后，美媒Legion Hoops也晒出了东欧二人的数据并提问：东契奇和欧文是历史最强进攻二人组吗？这一问题也引起了球迷们的热议，球迷们纷纷表示：杜兰特和库里更胜一筹。
[1]“库里和KD。这根本就没什么可争论的。”
Steph and KD. Ain’t even a debate.
[-]“有克莱在的，他们不能算是二人组。他们是一支超级球队。”
They cant be considered a duo with klay with them. They were a super team .
[--]“情况有所不同，因为从纸面上看，他们可能是进攻能力最强的组合，但在球场上，他们从未作为二人组接受过考验，因为克莱和他们一起并肩作战，进攻会变得容易10倍。而在独行侠中，只有东契奇和欧文是球队的进攻力量。”
Its different cause on paper they might be the best offensive duo but on the court they were never tested as a duo cause with Klay playing with them the offense becomes 10 times easier. In Mavs case only Luka & Kyrie are an offensive force on the team.
[4]“仅举几个例子。”
Just to name a couple
[-]"我认为也只有这两个组合更强了。“
Those are the only two I think
[--]“不，奥尼尔需要控卫给他传球，而当时科比的水平与东契奇和欧文相当……KD和库里很接近，但东契奇和KD一样出色，而欧文在我看来比库里得分能力更强，库里是一名优秀的射手，但命中率并没有太大差别。”
No Shaq needed a PG to give him the ball while Kobe is on the level of luka and KI ...KD and Steph come close but luka is as good as KD and KI in my opinion is a better scorer then Steph whobis a good shooter but again procentages are not that much different
[7]”欧文自己有一个更好的组合。“
Kyrie himself has a better one
[-]”詹姆斯的进攻是如何成为比东契奇更好的？而且2024年的欧文> 2015年的欧文。“
How is lebron a better overall offensive player than luka? And 2024 Kyrie > 2015 Kyrie
[--]”骑士欧文的投篮命中率：47.5%，3分命中率44%，罚球命中率87.5%。场均出手20次
目前欧文的命中率分别为48.6%、3 分球命中率42.3% 和86.4%。场均16次投篮。
近因偏见影响了你。“
Shooting splits in Cleveland- 47.5FG%, 44% from 3, and 87.5%from FT. 20 attempts per game
Splits currently-48.6FG%, 42.3% from 3, and 86.4%. 16 attempts per game.
Recency bias got a grip on you
[10]”我一眼就能看出还有更多
库里+杜兰特
科比+奥尼尔
欧文+詹姆斯
魔术师+贾巴尔
斯托克顿+马龙。“
Off the top of my head I’m sure there is more
Curry + Durant
Kobe + Shaq
Irving + LeBron
Magic + Kareem
Stockton + Malone
[-]”斯托克顿和马龙的天赋并不比他们强，但他们的配合加上成功的历史可以让他们占上风。这个问题可以讨论
其他4个组合对我来说没有争议。“
Stockton Malone were not more talented but their synergy plus track record of success could give them the edge. Was debating this one
Other 4 are not debatable to me
[--]”斯托克顿和马龙15年来一直是总冠军的有力竞争者。如果不是因为乔丹（东部没有其他球队能打败他们），他们本可以赢得总冠军戒指。“
Stockton Malone were perennial contenders for 15 years. Would have won rings if not for the Jordan wall (nobody else in the East was beating them).
[13]”近因偏见太疯狂了。“
the recency bias is crazy
[-]”奥尼尔和科比
KD和库里
詹姆斯和韦德
乔丹和皮蓬
这甚至不是包括欧文自己在内的前二进攻组合。“
Shaq Kobe
KD and Steph
Lebron Wade
Jordan Pippen
Shit this isn't even a top 2 offensive duo that includes Kyrie
[15]”库里和杜兰特的组合明显比历史其他人要强。“
Steph and kd are so clear of anybody all time
[-]”克里斯-保罗和哈登的表现更好，他们只是因伤病而败下阵来。“
Chris Paul and harden are better they just lost due to injury
[--]”2019年杜兰特倒下后，他们不也被打爆了，而且他们还很健康。“
Got cooked in 2019 after kd went down and they were healthy
[18]”奥尼尔和科比。“
Shaq and Kobe
[-]”奥尼尔远没有欧文和东契奇那么有活力，他非常强壮有力，有狮子的心态，像熊一样强壮。“
Shaq wasn’t anywhere near as dynamic as Irving or Luka is, he was jincredibly strong and powerful and had the mindset of a Lion and was built like a bear.
[--]”科比和奥尼尔在进攻和防守上都比这些人要强。
并且4进总决赛3夺总冠军。
你要记住打比赛的目标是什么。“
Kobe and Shaq are each better than each of these guys on both offense AND defense.
And won 3/4 championships.
Remember the objective of the game.
北京时间5月25日，NBA季后赛西部决赛G2，独行侠在客场凭借东契奇的三分绝杀，109-108险胜森林狼，大比分2-0领先。本场比赛东欧继续发力，东契奇全场砍下32分10篮板13助攻、欧文20分4篮板6助攻，带领球队拿下比赛。
赛后，美媒Legion Hoops也晒出了东欧二人的数据并提问：东契奇和欧文是历史最强进攻二人组吗？这一问题也引起了球迷们的热议，球迷们纷纷表示：杜兰特和库里更胜一筹。
[1]“库里和KD。这根本就没什么可争论的。”
Steph and KD. Ain’t even a debate.
[-]“有克莱在的，他们不能算是二人组。他们是一支超级球队。”
They cant be considered a duo with klay with them. They were a super team .
[--]“情况有所不同，因为从纸面上看，他们可能是进攻能力最强的组合，但在球场上，他们从未作为二人组接受过考验，因为克莱和他们一起并肩作战，进攻会变得容易10倍。而在独行侠中，只有东契奇和欧文是球队的进攻力量。”
Its different cause on paper they might be the best offensive duo but on the court they were never tested as a duo cause with Klay playing with them the offense becomes 10 times easier. In Mavs case only Luka & Kyrie are an offensive force on the team.
[4]“仅举几个例子。”
Just to name a couple
[-]"我认为也只有这两个组合更强了。“
Those are the only two I think
[--]“不，奥尼尔需要控卫给他传球，而当时科比的水平与东契奇和欧文相当……KD和库里很接近，但东契奇和KD一样出色，而欧文在我看来比库里得分能力更强，库里是一名优秀的射手，但命中率并没有太大差别。”
No Shaq needed a PG to give him the ball while Kobe is on the level of luka and KI ...KD and Steph come close but luka is as good as KD and KI in my opinion is a better scorer then Steph whobis a good shooter but again procentages are not that much different
[7]”欧文自己有一个更好的组合。“
Kyrie himself has a better one
[-]”詹姆斯的进攻是如何成为比东契奇更好的？而且2024年的欧文> 2015年的欧文。“
How is lebron a better overall offensive player than luka? And 2024 Kyrie > 2015 Kyrie
[--]”骑士欧文的投篮命中率：47.5%，3分命中率44%，罚球命中率87.5%。场均出手20次
目前欧文的命中率分别为48.6%、3 分球命中率42.3% 和86.4%。场均16次投篮。
近因偏见影响了你。“
Shooting splits in Cleveland- 47.5FG%, 44% from 3, and 87.5%from FT. 20 attempts per game
Splits currently-48.6FG%, 42.3% from 3, and 86.4%. 16 attempts per game.
Recency bias got a grip on you
[10]”我一眼就能看出还有更多
库里+杜兰特
科比+奥尼尔
欧文+詹姆斯
魔术师+贾巴尔
斯托克顿+马龙。“
Off the top of my head I’m sure there is more
Curry + Durant
Kobe + Shaq
Irving + LeBron
Magic + Kareem
Stockton + Malone
[-]”斯托克顿和马龙的天赋并不比他们强，但他们的配合加上成功的历史可以让他们占上风。这个问题可以讨论
其他4个组合对我来说没有争议。“
Stockton Malone were not more talented but their synergy plus track record of success could give them the edge. Was debating this one
Other 4 are not debatable to me
[--]”斯托克顿和马龙15年来一直是总冠军的有力竞争者。如果不是因为乔丹（东部没有其他球队能打败他们），他们本可以赢得总冠军戒指。“
Stockton Malone were perennial contenders for 15 years. Would have won rings if not for the Jordan wall (nobody else in the East was beating them).
[13]”近因偏见太疯狂了。“
the recency bias is crazy
[-]”奥尼尔和科比
KD和库里
詹姆斯和韦德
乔丹和皮蓬
这甚至不是包括欧文自己在内的前二进攻组合。“
Shaq Kobe
KD and Steph
Lebron Wade
Jordan Pippen
Shit this isn't even a top 2 offensive duo that includes Kyrie
[15]”库里和杜兰特的组合明显比历史其他人要强。“
Steph and kd are so clear of anybody all time
[-]”克里斯-保罗和哈登的表现更好，他们只是因伤病而败下阵来。“
Chris Paul and harden are better they just lost due to injury
[--]”2019年杜兰特倒下后，他们不也被打爆了，而且他们还很健康。“
Got cooked in 2019 after kd went down and they were healthy
[18]”奥尼尔和科比。“
Shaq and Kobe
[-]”奥尼尔远没有欧文和东契奇那么有活力，他非常强壮有力，有狮子的心态，像熊一样强壮。“
Shaq wasn’t anywhere near as dynamic as Irving or Luka is, he was jincredibly strong and powerful and had the mindset of a Lion and was built like a bear.
[--]”科比和奥尼尔在进攻和防守上都比这些人要强。
并且4进总决赛3夺总冠军。
你要记住打比赛的目标是什么。“
Kobe and Shaq are each better than each of these guys on both offense AND defense.
And won 3/4 championships.
Remember the objective of the game.
