到底是詹姆斯对司机的加持大还是科比对狼王的加持大

湿乎乎的话题

意难平的巨星之安东尼，如果你是球队经理，你会怎么围绕安东尼打造阵容？

[赛后]掘金132-126森林狼，斯特劳瑟33分3板2助，加尔扎29分9板1助

指环王！JRs评选历史6号GOAT：比尔-拉塞尔

詹姆斯从什么时候开始退出联盟第一人的位置？

加内特是第二大前吗？

当年风头鼎盛的四巨头雷霆到底是怎么翻船的？

客观的不黑不密，实事求是的说老詹对篮球的贡献是哪些？

各个位置第一人Vs第二人哪个队能获胜？

杜兰特被网友选为7与35两个号码的历史goat，而相反詹姆斯

[流言板]还需磨合！卡鲁索出战14分钟3中2得到5分1板1助，正负值-15

你们觉得易建联的瓜是真的还是假的？

诺维茨基的球队年年奢侈税拉满，结果回头发现，诺维茨基生涯最佳队友居然是特里，是否说明库班不行，花大钱办小事？

船区管理真tm狗，说了一句小卡可以倒贴选秀权交易出去了，就被封禁了……

最近区里有个评各个号码的GOAT的活动有意思，请问詹姆斯是几号GOAT

[流言板]表现亮眼！斯特劳瑟全场砍下33分3篮板2助攻1封盖

布克，杜兰特三巨头打不过浓眉

[流言板]防守大闸！戴森全场14中5，三分7中3得到13分8板4助攻3抢断

[流言板]打出名堂！加尔扎全场17投11中，砍下29分9篮板1助攻

事前说的才是理由，事后的这些是事实。 除了18骑士，哪还有什么中期大交易的事情，再说争冠球队为什么不允许中期交易？ 你要是说成绩稳定，不知道8连总决算不算稳定？ 18骑士赛季中问题很大，最后东部第四，评了S+，24凯子阵容稳定，健康问题也不大，最后给评个s，这种无耻的对比和双标难道是要脸的吗？

为啥总是有这这那那的理由？ 为啥总是“赛季前冲夺冠去、赛季中还要来个大交易”？ 为啥像前几年马刺、这几年凯尔特人成绩稳定？跟他们阵容稳定有无关系？ 最后一个问题：为啥开口就“你怎么有脸”这样肆意职责？

<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(43, 43, 43)" style="color:rgb(43, 43, 43);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(43, 43, 43)">北京时间5月10日，NBA季后赛次轮G2，凯尔特人在主场以94-118不敌骑士，被对手将系列赛大比分扳成了1比1平。赛后，凯尔特人球星塔图姆接受了采访，谈到了这场失利。在谈到球队表现不及预期时，塔图姆表示：“外界总说我们是一支超级球队，但我们没有最佳教练也没有MVP，只有两个全明星球员，我们并没得到超级球队该有的待遇。我知道我们肯定不是一支完美的球队，但我们很优秀，在大多数时候都以正确的方式在打球。”这一言论也引起了媒体和球迷们的热烈讨论，球迷们纷纷表示：别找借口。<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/de0201ee4f2224522ff9e94add4659cf.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/de0201ee4f2224522ff9e94add4659cf.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="0072ee06ac1e8a193e443ffaf46a8da4"></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div>[1]”<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">他确实在NBA历史上最完备的阵容之一中打球，哥们，他简直就是一个小纸杯蛋糕，科比看到他这样会很尴尬。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">He’s legit playing on one of the most complete rosters in the history of the NBA, dude is literally a cup cake Kobe would be so embarrassed.<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/801e39748a9339869eae7fba5763ecc9.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/801e39748a9339869eae7fba5763ecc9.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="c2e6e88aa1c7f39432a917eee040ed52"></div><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[-]”完备的阵容并不意味着是超级球队。“Complete roster doesn’t mean superteam[--]”兄弟，他可以15投2中，只拿7分，但球队仍然能赢20分。这就是一支超级球队。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">brother he can go 2/15 and drop 7 points and still win by 20. thats a superteam<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/61f582a642badf37f1c1571027af20e3.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/61f582a642badf37f1c1571027af20e3.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="ad2f0a4d7a693fc7f19574d33a787556"></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div>[4]”塔图姆布朗霍勒迪波尔津吉斯德里克-怀特这就是超级球队。“JTJBJRUEKRISTAPSD WHITETHAT IS A SUPERTEAM<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i5.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/dd5a5f84d3fa874da2e081ff978c2287.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i5.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/dd5a5f84d3fa874da2e081ff978c2287.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="874394b597ff77d6cb909035133a70b8"></div>[-]”一支备受宠爱的超级球队。替补席上的普里查德和豪瑟是大多数超级球队所没有的奢侈品。“A PAMPERED super team. Pritchard and Hauser off the bench are a luxury that most super teams didn’t have[--]”这些都是去年或前年你们都不屑一顾的球员，但因为他们已经成长起来了并在球队中表现出色，你们就想改变说法，称他们为超级球队。滚吧。“These were the same players y’all didn’t bat an eye at last year or the year before, but because they’ve developed and play well on the team, y’all want to change the narrative and call them a super team. Gtfo<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i11.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/136a88b8a43a480e358d2f3de42b7610.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i11.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/136a88b8a43a480e358d2f3de42b7610.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="31c906c7a4f789e91a30e425e5b8a81a"></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div>[7]”他试图摆脱压力😭。“trying to get rid of the pressure 😭<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/cae67a72fff9e5c866473a9fbf1401c9.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/cae67a72fff9e5c866473a9fbf1401c9.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="061c7dc29d17b3a5674a4cabbc585118"></div>[-]”<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">塔图姆是联盟的“超级巨星”中失败者心态最严重的人。“Jayson Tatum has the biggest Loser Mentality for a “Superstar” in the league[--]”<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">24 岁就闯入总决赛。对于一个有失败者心态的来说还不错😂。“Finals appearance at 24. Not bad for a lose mentality😂<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i11.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/58227f0b2c6ae74a251741455d00752f.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i11.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/58227f0b2c6ae74a251741455d00752f.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="545d5169643dae92f5509b914bfa54bb"></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div>[10]”<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">任何其他球星都能凭借他所拥有的阵容赢得冠军。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">Any other star would’ve won a championship with the rosters he’s had<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i11.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/51fa9d2740e49ce49c19d5805dbe7c81.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i11.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/51fa9d2740e49ce49c19d5805dbe7c81.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="348697e9831e2c39a978420b206b8c12"></div><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[-]”告诉我哪些26岁或更年轻的“球星”能在任何球队赢得冠军？我记得詹姆斯在2010赛季是26岁，他有一支超级球队，但甚至他都不能赢得总冠军。“Show me the “stars” 26 and younger who have won with any team. I remember lebron was 26 in 2010 season and he had a super team and even he couldn’t win.[--]”只是最近波神和霍勒迪的加入（才让他们被认为是超级球队），但斯玛特不得不离开，<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">但他们从一开始就发展得很好，并且确实没有得到任何赞誉，尤其是塔图姆。“Just of recent kp and jrue was added while smart had to go but this have developed themselves right from the start and truly doesn't get any credit for it especially Tatum.<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/01ffd85c31cea1469023637f97044057.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/01ffd85c31cea1469023637f97044057.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="76dc361177e9db15c2d9ae8d153e34c0"></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div>[13]”你是队里第三得分手，小兄弟。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">Ur the third leading scorer on ur team lil bro<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2b4c20c86fb402c94c2b542e83ac7dc2.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2b4c20c86fb402c94c2b542e83ac7dc2.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="873c19dd3dced4c2c8e2110307346465"></div><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[-]”你必须看比赛才能了解他的影响力，说实话，联盟其他球队害怕塔图姆，这就是为什么他的其他队友能得到这样的机会。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">U have to watch games to understand his impact tbh the leauge fears Tatum that’s why his other teammates gets the shots they get<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[--]”那么为什么季后赛其他球星的场均得分都领跑全队，而他们的影响力却一样大，甚至更大？东契奇、亚历山大、爱德华兹、布伦森场均得分都领跑全队，同时也能为队友创造投篮机会。“so why do other the star players in the playoffs lead their team in ppg when they’re having the same impact if not more? luka, shai, ant, brunson all lead their team in ppg while also opening up shots for their teammates<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i11.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/af2fc52eeeb8beaa139b45428e859490.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i11.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/af2fc52eeeb8beaa139b45428e859490.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="0b3d5202276568b203ed2afdfac86901"></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div>[16]”<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">兄弟，你正在找借口。你最大的威胁是受伤病困扰的尼克斯。这将是你赢得总冠军的最大机会。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">Bro making excuses already. Your biggest threat is an Injured Knicks team. This is your biggest opportunity to win it all<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/a841dbe68e381d49c4c96096c228879d.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/a841dbe68e381d49c4c96096c228879d.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="c9739a6fc165e819af078194d182aa79"></div><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[-]”你们真的一直不尊重骑士。如果他们赢了这轮系列赛，那真是太搞笑了。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">yall really keep disrespecting Cleveland. Would be absolutely hilarious if they win this series<div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[18]”真正懂球的人都不会说凯尔特人是超级球队。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">Nobody who actually knows ball is saying Boston a superteam<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/bd1570a37efafdf5e14ceb44188504a2.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/bd1570a37efafdf5e14ceb44188504a2.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="6d634e7fdd4f539ee7378f5b4378ff92"></div><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[-]”凯尔特人有 3 名球员场均得分超过20分，他们的第四和第五球员是最佳防守球员级别的外线防守人。这与有KD的勇士的实力水平相同。“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">Boston has 3 players averaging more than 20 PPG and their 4th and 5th guy are DPOY level perimeter defenders. That's the same power level as KD Warriors<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[--]”勇士有可靠的替补阵容，这就是他们赢得73胜的原因。“Warriors had a solid bench tho that’s why they won 73<div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><img data-origin="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/b6733fcf847a5f8dcd44e5fec263a1db.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/b6733fcf847a5f8dcd44e5fec263a1db.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="41dca757defd476ecfceb3f16fd8aff5"></div>

北京时间5月10日，NBA季后赛次轮G2，凯尔特人在主场以94-118不敌骑士，被对手将系列赛大比分扳成了1比1平。赛后，

凯尔特人球星塔图姆接受了采访，谈到了这场失利。

在谈到球队表现不及预期时，塔图姆表示：“外界总说我们是一支超级球队，但我们没有最佳教练也没有MVP，只有两个全明星球员，我们并没得到超级球队该有的待遇。我知道我们肯定不是一支完美的球队，但我们很优秀，在大多数时候都以正确的方式在打球。”

这一言论也引起了媒体和球迷们的热烈讨论，球迷们纷纷表示：别找借口。

他确实在NBA历史上最完备的阵容之一中打球，哥们，他简直就是一个小纸杯蛋糕，科比看到他这样会很尴尬。“

He’s legit playing on one of the most complete rosters in the history of the NBA, dude is literally a cup cake Kobe would be so embarrassed.

[-]”完备的阵容并不意味着是超级球队。“

[--]”兄弟，他可以15投2中，只拿7分，但球队仍然能赢20分。这就是一支超级球队。“

brother he can go 2/15 and drop 7 points and still win by 20. thats a superteam

[-]”一支备受宠爱的超级球队。替补席上的普里查德和豪瑟是大多数超级球队所没有的奢侈品。“

A PAMPERED super team.  Pritchard and Hauser off the bench are a luxury that most super teams didn’t have

[--]”这些都是去年或前年你们都不屑一顾的球员，但因为他们已经成长起来了并在球队中表现出色，你们就想改变说法，称他们为超级球队。滚吧。“

These were the same players y’all didn’t bat an eye at last year or the year before, but because they’ve developed and play well on the team, y’all want to change the narrative and call them a super team. Gtfo

塔图姆是联盟的“超级巨星”中失败者心态最严重的人。“

Jayson Tatum has the biggest Loser Mentality for a “Superstar” in the league

24 岁就闯入总决赛。对于一个有失败者心态的来说还不错😂。“

Finals appearance at 24. Not bad for a lose mentality😂

任何其他球星都能凭借他所拥有的阵容赢得冠军。“

Any other star would’ve won a championship with the rosters he’s had

[-]”告诉我哪些26岁或更年轻的“球星”能在任何球队赢得冠军？我记得詹姆斯在2010赛季是26岁，他有一支超级球队，但甚至他都不能赢得总冠军。“

Show me the “stars” 26 and younger who have won with any team.  I remember lebron was 26 in 2010 season and he had a super team and even he couldn’t win.

[--]”只是最近波神和霍勒迪的加入（才让他们被认为是超级球队），但斯玛特不得不离开，

但他们从一开始就发展得很好，并且确实没有得到任何赞誉，尤其是塔图姆。“

Just of recent kp and jrue was added while smart had to go but this have developed themselves right from the start and truly doesn't get any credit for it especially Tatum.

[13]”你是队里第三得分手，小兄弟。“

Ur the third leading scorer on ur team lil bro

[-]”你必须看比赛才能了解他的影响力，说实话，联盟其他球队害怕塔图姆，这就是为什么他的其他队友能得到这样的机会。“

U have to watch games to understand his impact tbh the leauge fears Tatum that’s why his other teammates gets the shots they get

[--]”那么为什么季后赛其他球星的场均得分都领跑全队，而他们的影响力却一样大，甚至更大？东契奇、亚历山大、爱德华兹、布伦森场均得分都领跑全队，同时也能为队友创造投篮机会。“

so why do other the star players in the playoffs lead their team in ppg when they’re having the same impact if not more? luka, shai, ant, brunson all lead their team in ppg while also opening up shots for their teammates

兄弟，你正在找借口。你最大的威胁是受伤病困扰的尼克斯。这将是你赢得总冠军的最大机会。“

Bro making excuses already. Your biggest threat is an Injured Knicks team. This is your biggest opportunity to win it all

[-]”你们真的一直不尊重骑士。如果他们赢了这轮系列赛，那真是太搞笑了。“

yall really keep disrespecting Cleveland. Would be absolutely hilarious if they win this series

[18]”真正懂球的人都不会说凯尔特人是超级球队。“

Nobody who actually knows ball is saying Boston a superteam

凯尔特人有 3 名球员场均得分超过20分，他们的第四和第五球员是最佳防守球员级别的外线防守人。这与有KD的勇士的实力水平相同。“

Boston has 3 players averaging more than 20 PPG and their 4th and 5th guy are DPOY level perimeter defenders. That's the same power level as KD Warriors

[--]”勇士有可靠的替补阵容，这就是他们赢得73胜的原因。“

Warriors had a solid bench tho that’s why they won 73