nba历史上有哪些让人大开眼界的运动员（以）

湿乎乎的话题

还原历史的真相（第十四期）:16年的总冠军是历史上最伟大的冠军，如今却有人想要摸黑它的含金量，让我们回顾一下那年创造了多么不朽的记录

统治赛场！2025届热门新秀库珀-弗拉格，你认识他吗？

看球晚不太懂，07年才四年级的幼詹，是怎么单核带这样的队友进总决的?

邓肯是不是最擅长对付状元的巨星，生涯赢过九个状元

帕金斯：雷迪克的发布会就是场闹剧，他连自己是谁选的都不敢正面回应

就当前积累荣誉看，东77和塔图姆哪个地位高？

为什么有的人数据很值钱，有的人数据又不值钱？

姚麦时期的爵士号称其他球队的外线提款机，为什么唯独麦迪打的那么艰苦那么狼狈？

这球为什么吹了76人球员的掩护犯规？

他俩到底谁才是新世纪硬实力第一人？

统治东部到底值不值得骄傲

强度拉满

网友：要是詹姆斯和他儿子布朗尼真在一个队打球，球场上布朗尼得咋称呼詹姆斯？詹姆斯对布朗尼会不会来个摊手，或者整出些消极的肢体动作？

如果詹姆斯玩原神你们还会对他有意见吗？

[流言板]船记：乔治常规赛公开质疑球队的定位，让队友感到挫败

纳什在太阳这八年的投篮热图是什么水平？

有没有人在看男篮打澳门黑熊……

明天选秀前是不是各球队就要开始大动作了

<p>不是21年啥队友啊，不也进季后赛了，斯玛特沃克布朗全伤。你进不进季后赛和你还要阵容多好，而且欧文不是全明星吗？最后附加赛不进能不能找自己原因。</p><p><img src="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/hupuapp/bbs/610/70486610/thread_70486610_20201027191437_s_7741_w_199_h_185_72277.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp"/></p>

<p>你他妈绿军啥队友啊 铂金霍勒迪布朗霍福德</p>

<p>北京时间1月3日，雷霆客场以127-123力克凯尔特人，亚历山大本场比赛表现出色，全场以64%的命中率砍下36分7篮板7助攻，塔图姆则是砍下了<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(51, 51, 51)" style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(51, 51, 51)">30分、13个篮板、8次助攻，数据不分伯仲。而在今日，知名记者</span>比尔-西蒙斯在谈到亚历山大和塔图姆的对比时表示：亚历山大目前是比杰森-塔图姆更好的球员，SGA现在是联盟前五了。”这一言论也引起了球迷们的热议，球迷们纷纷表示：从数据上看确实如此。</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-09-26/8247d4c4-dad4-4402-b096-6ea7265b7e2a.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-09-26/8247d4c4-dad4-4402-b096-6ea7265b7e2a.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="81c63d18285e5cbd1132da4e7a22105e"></p></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div><p>[1]“SGA现在和塔图姆已经处于不同的水平了。”</p><p></p><p>SGA is on a different level right now than Tatum</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-48-16/fa97a8ad-ac08-4e9e-9288-c33c0a083f31.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-48-16/fa97a8ad-ac08-4e9e-9288-c33c0a083f31.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="a9e1235884e8e59bcb01ef6be2bcbf5d"></p></div><p>[-]“他的状态很好</p><p>塔图姆正在追逐总冠军戒指</p><p>侧重点不同。”</p><p></p><p>He is on a good run</p><p>Tatum is looking for a ring</p><p>Different priorities</p><p></p><p>[--]“谁知道呢，也许他们会在总决赛中相遇。凯尔特人绝对是在争分夺秒，并且有望在本赛季做到这一点。另一方面，雷霆正在经历一个惊人的赛季，可能会在季后赛的时候给人们带来惊喜。”</p><p></p><p>Who knows, maybe they’ll matchup in the finals.  One team is definitely on the clock and expected to be there this season.  The other being the Thunder are having an amazing season and could surprise people come playoff time</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-49-13/d5d73a29-765f-4616-8766-7aa0df93123d.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-49-13/d5d73a29-765f-4616-8766-7aa0df93123d.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="34108061e40e82a4644135d7873cf6ae"></p></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div><p>[4]“好吧，对杰森-塔图姆的不尊重太疯狂了。SGA很神奇，但能成常态吗？”</p><p>Ok the Jason Tatum disrespect is wild.  Shai is amazing but cmon?</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i2.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-50-24/0a0d71e3-13e4-4052-894c-ee41a6969d98.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i2.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-50-24/0a0d71e3-13e4-4052-894c-ee41a6969d98.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="8f1741be8e65a8b5ed5fe46886b4b34d"></p></div><p>[-]“SGA场均得分、助攻、抢断、盖帽更多，失误更少，正负值，投篮命中率更高，三分命中率略低，场均少打2分钟。”</p><p></p><p>Shai averages more points, assists, steals, blocks, less turnovers, higher plus minus fg percentage true shooting percentage, slightly less 3p% on 2 mins less per game</p><p></p><p>[--]“所以32场比赛的样本决定了谁更优秀。忘了什么全明星/最佳阵容，季后赛，冠军时刻等等吧。😂”</p><p></p><p>So a 32 game sample size determines whose better, got it. Forgot about all-nba/all-stars, playoffs, moments etc😂</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-50-28/85b27b38-11c1-4ea3-a59d-1c502ece3a17.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-50-28/85b27b38-11c1-4ea3-a59d-1c502ece3a17.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="92266883ebf30f48925451d14b3f4f78"></p></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div><p>[7]“他说得对，没有出色的球队，塔图姆什么都不是。”</p><p></p><p>He’s right Tatum is nothing without Stacked teams</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i4.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-53-07/72f8256d-f24f-4f04-ad80-34762b4ec2ac.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i4.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-53-07/72f8256d-f24f-4f04-ad80-34762b4ec2ac.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="d443b9bfe0ce570a7a8ce6ba903527cd"></p></div><p>[-]“恰恰相反。塔图姆在球场上发挥出了他最好的水平。这也是他本赛季退步的原因。”</p><p></p><p>Quite the opposite.  Tatum has played his best with scrubs on the floor.  Reason he’s taken a step back this season.</p><p></p><p>[--]“没错，他更多的为队友创造机会，所以他的数据有所下滑。”</p><p></p><p>Yep, he's creating more opportunities for his teammates, so his data are down.</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i5.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-50-53/28ab4b8c-01ca-4080-9055-f73ab1c639fc.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i5.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-50-53/28ab4b8c-01ca-4080-9055-f73ab1c639fc.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="3d4ade4d2fa6bb75e27b388673338e9b"></p></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div><p>[10]“他可能比塔图姆强，但他不是联盟前五</p><p>KD、字母哥、恩比德，东契奇、库里和约基奇显然都在他之上。”</p><p></p><p>He might be better than Tatum but he’s not top 5</p><p>Kd giannis embiid luka Steph jokic are all clearly above him</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-53-21/48817fc6-06ee-4fea-9cc1-c1ea4ea43ce0.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-53-21/48817fc6-06ee-4fea-9cc1-c1ea4ea43ce0.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="bca239a8077b2c25e55d66120644976b"></p></div><p>[-]“只有约基奇和恩比德是绝对比他更好的球员，但其他三个人是谁是有争议的。”</p><p></p><p>Only Jokic and Embiid are definitely better players rn, the other three are debatable</p><p></p><p>[--]“杜兰特和库里在联盟中有他们的地位。但时代已经不同了。现在是新一代球员的时代了。”</p><p></p><p>Kd and steph have their place on the mountain.  That's the different generation.  Its the new generation time now</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i2.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-54-58/6e651030-96db-4c98-a4de-db7380deb607.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i2.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-54-58/6e651030-96db-4c98-a4de-db7380deb607.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="66ad3f55ec1f7384292bab580db759e3"></p></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div><p>[13]“我以为每个人都知道😂。”</p><p></p><p>i thought everyone knew that😂</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-53-40/324a6bb9-b300-4dc4-a6ed-bbefe0b629ac.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-53-40/324a6bb9-b300-4dc4-a6ed-bbefe0b629ac.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="90a1e46acfa0aa7b365057716da7ed55"></p></div><p>[-]“告诉SGA赢一次季后赛系列赛</p><p>这比我们能说的更有说服力🤨”</p><p></p><p>Tell SGA Win One Playoff Series</p><p>Than We Can Talk🤨</p><p></p><p>[--]“这和个人能力有什么关系？据我所知，篮球是一项团队运动。”</p><p></p><p>What does this have to do with individual talent, last time I checked, basketball is a team sport</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-53-49/73fcf969-92e4-495d-a094-a8301fcab63c.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-53-49/73fcf969-92e4-495d-a094-a8301fcab63c.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="598992001ffb61d88b353cecce6427a3"></p></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div><p>[16]“这不是个糟糕的观点。”</p><p></p><p><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">Not a bad take</span></p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i4.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-54-30/74fed6da-1259-4779-8aeb-4a646577caaa.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i4.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-54-30/74fed6da-1259-4779-8aeb-4a646577caaa.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="a96fa2af11d8052ba0b37e26916e7d1c"></p></div><p><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">[-]“他没撒谎。SGA现在在一个完全不同的层次上。塔图姆生来就在卓越和稳定的球队中，他在杜克大学在老K手下打球，而且在波士顿凯尔特人的时候在布拉德-史蒂文斯手下打球，这支球队注定要进入季后赛。SGA一步步成长到了现在这个角色，雷霆可以说是西部第二。”</span></p><p></p><p><span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">He's not lying. He's on a totally different level. Tatum was born into excellence and stability organizationally, having played at Duke with Krzyzewski and Boston with Brad Steven's, and a team that was playoff bound. Shai grew into this role and OKC is arguably 2 in the west.</span></p><p></p><p>[--]“<span data-type="color" data-value="rgb(15, 20, 25)" style="color:rgb(15, 20, 25);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="slate-fontColor" data-bg-color="rgb(255, 255, 255)" data-color="rgb(15, 20, 25)">他为杜克大学效力，是因为他是高中排名前三的球员。他在大学时表现出色，安吉也表示，如果他们不进行交易，他愿意以第一顺位选中他，他在与波士顿凯尔特人打球的一年内，他成为了不可撼动的球员，成为了球队的门面。SGA还没达到他的水平，兄弟。”</span></p><p></p><p>Played for Duke b/c he was a top 3 HS  player.  Was so good in college Ainge said he was willing to draft him #1 overall if they didn’t trade down.  Within 1 yr of playing with Boston he became untouchable and the face of the franchise.  Shai ain’t on his level bruh.</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-55-19/f2d6060e-1897-4b9a-b267-6eaf6c98d6c2.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-55-19/f2d6060e-1897-4b9a-b267-6eaf6c98d6c2.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="da9469d2515e3b9e5ad0b9e7e0a0fffb"></p></div><div class="slate-divider slate-hr"><hr style="background-color:#D9D9D9;height:1px;border:none" /></div><p>[19]“塔图姆只是在这一点上有点让人失望。”</p><p></p><p>JT just a disappointment at this point</p><div class="slate-image" style="margin:0 auto"><p><img data-origin="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-49-46/50a8be42-5e67-4a8f-8949-01b0c9b99184.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" src="https://i10.hoopchina.com.cn/editor/2024-1-4/11-49-46/50a8be42-5e67-4a8f-8949-01b0c9b99184.png?x-oss-process=image/resize,w_800/format,webp" / data-imgid="8c9fd35d71bf1aa47e362d975bc0a8fb"></p></div><p>[-]“在联盟最好的球队场均27+9，命中率47%，令人失望？？笑死我了。”</p><p></p><p>27 and 9 shooting 47% from the field on the best team in the league is a disappointment??  Lmao</p><span data-time="1704343619" style="display:none"></span>

北京时间1月3日，雷霆客场以127-123力克凯尔特人，亚历山大本场比赛表现出色，全场以64%的命中率砍下36分7篮板7助攻，塔图姆则是砍下了

30分、13个篮板、8次助攻，数据不分伯仲。而在今日，知名记者

比尔-西蒙斯在谈到亚历山大和塔图姆的对比时表示：亚历山大目前是比杰森-塔图姆更好的球员，SGA现在是联盟前五了。”这一言论也引起了球迷们的热议，球迷们纷纷表示：从数据上看确实如此。

[1]“SGA现在和塔图姆已经处于不同的水平了。”

SGA is on a different level right now than Tatum

[--]“谁知道呢，也许他们会在总决赛中相遇。凯尔特人绝对是在争分夺秒，并且有望在本赛季做到这一点。另一方面，雷霆正在经历一个惊人的赛季，可能会在季后赛的时候给人们带来惊喜。”

Who knows, maybe they’ll matchup in the finals.  One team is definitely on the clock and expected to be there this season.  The other being the Thunder are having an amazing season and could surprise people come playoff time

[4]“好吧，对杰森-塔图姆的不尊重太疯狂了。SGA很神奇，但能成常态吗？”

Ok the Jason Tatum disrespect is wild.  Shai is amazing but cmon?

[-]“SGA场均得分、助攻、抢断、盖帽更多，失误更少，正负值，投篮命中率更高，三分命中率略低，场均少打2分钟。”

Shai averages more points, assists, steals, blocks, less turnovers, higher plus minus fg percentage true shooting percentage, slightly less 3p% on 2 mins less per game

[--]“所以32场比赛的样本决定了谁更优秀。忘了什么全明星/最佳阵容，季后赛，冠军时刻等等吧。😂”

So a 32 game sample size determines whose better, got it. Forgot about all-nba/all-stars, playoffs, moments etc😂

[7]“他说得对，没有出色的球队，塔图姆什么都不是。”

He’s right Tatum is nothing without Stacked teams

[-]“恰恰相反。塔图姆在球场上发挥出了他最好的水平。这也是他本赛季退步的原因。”

Quite the opposite.  Tatum has played his best with scrubs on the floor.  Reason he’s taken a step back this season.

[--]“没错，他更多的为队友创造机会，所以他的数据有所下滑。”

Yep, he's creating more opportunities for his teammates, so his data are down.

[10]“他可能比塔图姆强，但他不是联盟前五

KD、字母哥、恩比德，东契奇、库里和约基奇显然都在他之上。”

He might be better than Tatum but he’s not top 5

Kd giannis embiid luka Steph jokic are all clearly above him

[-]“只有约基奇和恩比德是绝对比他更好的球员，但其他三个人是谁是有争议的。”

Only Jokic and Embiid are definitely better players rn, the other three are debatable

[--]“杜兰特和库里在联盟中有他们的地位。但时代已经不同了。现在是新一代球员的时代了。”

Kd and steph have their place on the mountain.  That's the different generation.  Its the new generation time now

[13]“我以为每个人都知道😂。”

[-]“告诉SGA赢一次季后赛系列赛

这比我们能说的更有说服力🤨”

[--]“这和个人能力有什么关系？据我所知，篮球是一项团队运动。”

What does this have to do with individual talent, last time I checked, basketball is a team sport

[-]“他没撒谎。SGA现在在一个完全不同的层次上。塔图姆生来就在卓越和稳定的球队中，他在杜克大学在老K手下打球，而且在波士顿凯尔特人的时候在布拉德-史蒂文斯手下打球，这支球队注定要进入季后赛。SGA一步步成长到了现在这个角色，雷霆可以说是西部第二。”

He's not lying. He's on a totally different level. Tatum was born into excellence and stability organizationally, having played at Duke with Krzyzewski and Boston with Brad Steven's, and a team that was playoff bound. Shai grew into this role and OKC is arguably 2 in the west.

他为杜克大学效力，是因为他是高中排名前三的球员。他在大学时表现出色，安吉也表示，如果他们不进行交易，他愿意以第一顺位选中他，他在与波士顿凯尔特人打球的一年内，他成为了不可撼动的球员，成为了球队的门面。SGA还没达到他的水平，兄弟。”

Played for Duke b/c he was a top 3 HS  player.  Was so good in college Ainge said he was willing to draft him #1 overall if they didn’t trade down.  Within 1 yr of playing with Boston he became untouchable and the face of the franchise.  Shai ain’t on his level bruh.

[19]“塔图姆只是在这一点上有点让人失望。”

[-]“在联盟最好的球队场均27+9，命中率47%，令人失望？？笑死我了。”

27 and 9 shooting 47% from the field on the best team in the league is a disappointment??  Lmao