今日,美媒赛出了詹姆斯和字母哥生涯前9个赛季的成就对比,引发了国外JRS的激烈讨论。
giannis is already better
字母哥已经领先了
Lol no; the only thing Giannis has been better than LeBron at is probably defense. Every other category you can think of, LeBron clears vastly.
哈哈,我不认为字母哥更强,字母哥唯一可能比詹姆斯强的地方是防守。你能想到的其他方面,詹姆斯明显更强
And Lebron got robbed out at least one DPOY…
詹姆斯至少被抢走了一个DPOY
In his first 9 seasons LeBron faced Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe, Kevin Garnett, Steve Nash, healthy Derrick Rose. Giannis also faced a lot of talent, but mostly aging LeBron and KD, plus Steph.
在詹姆斯的前9个赛季,他面对的是邓肯、诺维茨基、科比、加内特、纳什、健康的德里克-罗斯。字母哥也面临着很多天才球员,但基本上是老年詹姆斯和杜兰特,再加上库里。
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When did LeBron face Kobe or Nash?
詹姆斯什么时候面对科比或纳什?
if giannis goes to a big market team then he could definetly make a run at the goat convo
如果字母哥去一个大球市,那么他绝对可以竞争历史最佳球员
Because Cleveland is a huge market
詹姆斯可以竞争历史最佳球员是因为骑士是一个大球市?
Winning a chip in Milwaukee will be a huge part in Giannis’ goat convo eventually
字母哥一人一城,将来会成为竞争历史最佳球员的重要筹码
The thing is LeBron is averaging 27 ppg through his first 9 seasons, Giannis is averaging like 21
问题是詹姆斯在前9个赛季场均 27 分,字母哥场均 21 分
First 9 Seasons:
LeBron — 27.6 PPG
7.2 RPG
6.9 APG
1.7 SPG
0.8 BPG
48% FG
33% 3PT
74% FT
Giannis — 21.8 PPG
9.4 RPG
4.6 APG
1.3 BPG
1.2 SPG
54% FG
29% 3PT
72% FT
前 9 赛季: 勒布朗—— 27.6分
7.2 篮板
6.9 助攻
1.7 抢断
0.8 盖帽
48% 命中率
33% 3分命中率
74% 罚球命中率
扬尼斯 — 21.8分
9.4 篮板
4.6 助攻
1.3 盖帽
1.2 抢断
54% 投篮命中率
29% 3分命中率
72% 罚球命中率
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Giannis averaged like 6ppg in his first season and 12ppg in his second season. He did not come to this league as a star. He came as a nobody and became a super star. Take out Gianni's first 2-3 seasons and then make a comparison.
字母哥第一个赛季场均6分,第二个赛季场均12分。他不是作为明星来到NBA的。他以角色球员的身份出现,并成为了超级明星。应该把詹姆斯前三个赛季的数据拿掉再做对比。
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…and that’s Lebron’s fault?
这是詹姆斯的错吗?
For their numbers to even be that close considering Giannis' first three season is a testament to his greatness.
考虑到字母哥的前三个赛季,仍然和詹姆斯的数据很接近,这证明了字母哥的伟大。
That's not LeBron's fault that he was a star as soon as he entered the league.. bro was 18 years old, came out of high school and faced the most pressure out of any prospect ever
这不是詹姆斯的错,他一进入联盟就成为明星球员。他当时18岁刚刚高中毕业,面临着有史以来最大的压力
Nobody said it was, that’s why it doesn’t make sense to compare early Bron to early Giannis
没有人说是詹姆斯的错,现在拿字母哥和早期的詹姆斯对比没有意义
In his first nine season
9x all star
9x all NBA
9x all defense
3x NBA champion
3x finals MVP
2x MVP
2x W playoff series vs Shaq&Kobe
他的前9个赛季
9次全明星
9次最佳阵容
NBA 9次最佳防守阵容
3次NBA总冠军
3次总决赛MVP
2次MVP
2次在季后赛淘汰奥尼尔和科比
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Tim Duncan is one of the GOATs. He also came into a much better situation than LeBron or Giannis
邓肯是历史最佳球员之一,他的球队环境也比詹姆斯和字母哥要好
Tim Duncan was first team all NBA and all defense as a rookie (at a time when players like Shaq, MJ, Hakeem, and Karl Malone were in their prime). That has nothing to do with the team that drafted him. He was just that good from the get go
邓肯在新秀赛季就是一阵一防的球员(当时像沙克、乔丹、奥拉朱旺和卡尔马龙这样的球员正处于巅峰时期)。他取得这样的成就和马刺无关,他刚进联盟就那么出色
he also played in college for 4 years which nobody seems to mention
大家都没提过他在大学还打了 4 年
The fact that Tim doesn't have a dpoy is really weird
蒂姆没有DPOY真的很令人费解
Tim Duncan underrated top 5 all time tbh
蒂姆邓肯低估了,他是历史前五的球员
最后附上字母哥面对湖人的精彩三分时刻
今日,美媒赛出了詹姆斯和字母哥生涯前9个赛季的成就对比,引发了国外JRS的激烈讨论。
giannis is already better
字母哥已经领先了
Lol no; the only thing Giannis has been better than LeBron at is probably defense. Every other category you can think of, LeBron clears vastly.
哈哈,我不认为字母哥更强,字母哥唯一可能比詹姆斯强的地方是防守。你能想到的其他方面,詹姆斯明显更强
And Lebron got robbed out at least one DPOY…
詹姆斯至少被抢走了一个DPOY
In his first 9 seasons LeBron faced Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe, Kevin Garnett, Steve Nash, healthy Derrick Rose. Giannis also faced a lot of talent, but mostly aging LeBron and KD, plus Steph.
在詹姆斯的前9个赛季,他面对的是邓肯、诺维茨基、科比、加内特、纳什、健康的德里克-罗斯。字母哥也面临着很多天才球员,但基本上是老年詹姆斯和杜兰特,再加上库里。
回复上面
When did LeBron face Kobe or Nash?
詹姆斯什么时候面对科比或纳什?
if giannis goes to a big market team then he could definetly make a run at the goat convo
如果字母哥去一个大球市,那么他绝对可以竞争历史最佳球员
Because Cleveland is a huge market
詹姆斯可以竞争历史最佳球员是因为骑士是一个大球市?
Winning a chip in Milwaukee will be a huge part in Giannis’ goat convo eventually
字母哥一人一城,将来会成为竞争历史最佳球员的重要筹码
The thing is LeBron is averaging 27 ppg through his first 9 seasons, Giannis is averaging like 21
问题是詹姆斯在前9个赛季场均 27 分,字母哥场均 21 分
First 9 Seasons:
LeBron — 27.6 PPG
7.2 RPG
6.9 APG
1.7 SPG
0.8 BPG
48% FG
33% 3PT
74% FT
Giannis — 21.8 PPG
9.4 RPG
4.6 APG
1.3 BPG
1.2 SPG
54% FG
29% 3PT
72% FT
前 9 赛季: 勒布朗—— 27.6分
7.2 篮板
6.9 助攻
1.7 抢断
0.8 盖帽
48% 命中率
33% 3分命中率
74% 罚球命中率
扬尼斯 — 21.8分
9.4 篮板
4.6 助攻
1.3 盖帽
1.2 抢断
54% 投篮命中率
29% 3分命中率
72% 罚球命中率
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Giannis averaged like 6ppg in his first season and 12ppg in his second season. He did not come to this league as a star. He came as a nobody and became a super star. Take out Gianni's first 2-3 seasons and then make a comparison.
字母哥第一个赛季场均6分,第二个赛季场均12分。他不是作为明星来到NBA的。他以角色球员的身份出现,并成为了超级明星。应该把詹姆斯前三个赛季的数据拿掉再做对比。
回复上面
…and that’s Lebron’s fault?
这是詹姆斯的错吗?
For their numbers to even be that close considering Giannis' first three season is a testament to his greatness.
考虑到字母哥的前三个赛季,仍然和詹姆斯的数据很接近,这证明了字母哥的伟大。
That's not LeBron's fault that he was a star as soon as he entered the league.. bro was 18 years old, came out of high school and faced the most pressure out of any prospect ever
这不是詹姆斯的错,他一进入联盟就成为明星球员。他当时18岁刚刚高中毕业,面临着有史以来最大的压力
Nobody said it was, that’s why it doesn’t make sense to compare early Bron to early Giannis
没有人说是詹姆斯的错,现在拿字母哥和早期的詹姆斯对比没有意义
In his first nine season
9x all star
9x all NBA
9x all defense
3x NBA champion
3x finals MVP
2x MVP
2x W playoff series vs Shaq&Kobe
他的前9个赛季
9次全明星
9次最佳阵容
NBA 9次最佳防守阵容
3次NBA总冠军
3次总决赛MVP
2次MVP
2次在季后赛淘汰奥尼尔和科比
回复上面
Tim Duncan is one of the GOATs. He also came into a much better situation than LeBron or Giannis
邓肯是历史最佳球员之一,他的球队环境也比詹姆斯和字母哥要好
Tim Duncan was first team all NBA and all defense as a rookie (at a time when players like Shaq, MJ, Hakeem, and Karl Malone were in their prime). That has nothing to do with the team that drafted him. He was just that good from the get go
邓肯在新秀赛季就是一阵一防的球员(当时像沙克、乔丹、奥拉朱旺和卡尔马龙这样的球员正处于巅峰时期)。他取得这样的成就和马刺无关,他刚进联盟就那么出色
he also played in college for 4 years which nobody seems to mention
大家都没提过他在大学还打了 4 年
The fact that Tim doesn't have a dpoy is really weird
蒂姆没有DPOY真的很令人费解
Tim Duncan underrated top 5 all time tbh
蒂姆邓肯低估了,他是历史前五的球员
最后附上字母哥面对湖人的精彩三分时刻