Kenny Smith : " We know Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the west. " (self.nba)
肯尼-史密斯:“我们都知道科怀-伦纳德是西部最好的球员。”
“如果他在场,他们本能赢球。”
我知道奥尼尔和巴克利经常这么说。但当肯尼也变成了伦纳德的粉?我觉得他经常和这两位争执,说杜兰特和库里要更好。
If he played , they would have won
I know Shaq and Charled always say this. But when did Kenny become Kawhi fan ? I think he always argue with those two that KD and Steph are better.
[–]ChopinOnTheKeys 1203 指標 15小時前
Let's all admit that Kawhi at least has a solid argument.
让我们都承认伦纳德至少有实打实的干货
[–]Celticstherestoomuch 1054 指標 15小時前
Only because Kelly Olynyk is in the East
仅仅是因为凯利-奥利尼克在东部。
[–]Heat Bandwagonwell_bang_okay 160 指標 13小時前
If Kelly Olynyk and Dion Waiters teamed up how many rings would they win
如果凯利-奥利尼克和迪昂-维特斯联手,他们能拿下多少枚戒指啊。
[–]Cavaliers BandwagonTheKingOfGhana 200 指標 13小時前
Whatever number is all of them
战无不胜,攻无不克;管他几枚,戒指全收。
[–]HeatSoulCrusher69 120 指標 14小時前
Its between him, Curry, and Durant in my opinion.
I had him solidly at #3 for a while but at this point I gotta acknowledge my irrational distaste, the dude is balling.
在我看来人选在他,库里和杜兰特中产生。
我过去一段时间里把他牢牢放在第三,但现在我意识到了我的眼光捉急,这小哥真是棒的飞起啊。
[–]Supersonicsformido 104 指標 12小時前
Not really. Steph Curry as about the same point differential as LeBron James (by RPM), but he does it on a much better team, which is harder in the same way it's harder for a 7 footer to average 10 rebounds a game when he's playing with 3 other 7 footers than when he's playing with none.
Steph Curry is obviously the best player in the west and it continues to be mind-boggling how someone whose skills are so much better than every other player in the league, and whose skills have translated into the best 3 year stretch in basketball, can be this underrated.
并非如此。库里有着和勒布朗-詹姆斯几乎相同的场均分差(根据真实正负值RPM),但他是在一支好得多的球队里做到这点的,这要更难一些。就像一个七尺长人(2米13)在一支还有另外三个七尺队友的队里,比在一支没有大个子的队里,要更难抢下场均十板一样。
斯蒂芬-库里明显是西部最好的球员,但看着比赛技巧在过去三年间实现飞升,并且技术比联盟其他人都要好很多的球员,被如此低估,真是令人一脸懵逼。
[–][DAL] Dirk NowitzkiIceClownFromIceTown 393 指標 16小時前
Shaq and Charles have been saying Kawhi's been the second best player for weeks now.
奥尼尔和巴克利这几周一直在说科怀是第二好的球员。
[–]w2chaudh 240 指標 16小時前*
They've been saying it since last season. Charles was saying Kawhi was the best player in the league last season. Barkely also said Klay was a better player then Steph and KD at the beginning of the season. He also ranked Klay ahead of Steph in the player rankings they did midway through the season.
他们从上赛季就一直这么说了。巴克利上赛季说科怀是联盟最佳球员。在赛季初,他还说汤普森是一个强于库里和杜兰特的球员。在赛季中期,他也在他们的球员排行榜上把汤普森排在库里之前。
[–][PHI] Joel Embiidjayzee1138 181 指標 15小時前
I always love that Charles' argument is that Kawhi and Klay are two way players which makes them better, but Chuck was awful on defense.
我一直喜欢巴克利的论据,即科怀和克莱是攻防兼顾的球员,这让他们变得更强,尽管巴克利自己在防守端糟透了。
[–]ThunderDaBear816 308 指標 15小時前
Shows hes non biased
证明他没啥偏心。
[–]mmm31415 133 指標 15小時前
maybe that's why he respects it so much. because it was something he wasn't good at, and the dude was a master of basketball
可能这是为什么他如此看重攻防兼顾的原因。因为这是他自己没能擅长的东西,这老哥可是个篮球专家啊。
[–]SpursScipio_Africanes[] 88 指標 15小時前
I think it shows self-awareness. Whereas with Shaq, he doesn't respect any big man that doesn't have his offensive skillset. Just look at how brutal he is with his Dwight criticism. Of the 2 best big men in the 2000s (Duncan and Dirk), his preference for Duncan's game is really obvious, and it's not all because he's the better player.
我觉得则表示他有自知之明。反观鲨鱼,他不尊重任何没有他进攻技能包的大个子。就看看他对霍华德的批评有多不留情吧。对于2000年代最棒的两个大个子(邓肯和诺维斯基),他明显更偏好邓肯,这不全是因为邓肯是个更好的球员。
[–]Lakers Bandwagondonniedarkoo 229 指標 15小時前
Kawhi was having an all time great playoffs until he got hurt
伦纳德曾经拥有一段历史级别的季后赛之旅,直到他受伤。
[–]Rockets Bandwagoni_am_penis 81 指標 13小時前*
Kawhi was
He still is. He'll be back, might even play game 3.
伦纳德曾经?
他还在。他会回来的,或许第三场就会回来了。
[–]SpursHuckFinn69 34 指標 13小時前
Not sure why this is getting downvoted. Down 2-0 isn't that insurmountable if we get Kawhi back for game 3 especially considering the next two are at home.
不知道为什么被灭了。翻盘0-2并非毫无可能,如果我们能在第三场迎回伦纳德复出,再考虑到接下来两场是我们主场。
[–]NBAbigbeau 45 指標 11小時前
Could you imagine if he came back game 3, looked slow, yall go down 3-0. Comes back on a tear and beats the warriors in 7 after being down 3-0. Oh man, the memes....
你能想象吗,如果他第三场归来,看上去还不是很利索,结果0-3落后。再一波连胜王者归来,在0-3落后之后连扳四场击败勇士。天呐老哥,到时候铺天盖地的嘲讽啊....
[–]Rockets1he3eard 299 指標 16小時前
I guess this was what Durant meant when he was tired of being 2nd. He wanted to be closer to 5th.
我猜,这就是杜兰特说他厌倦当第二的真实含义。他想离第五名近一点儿。
[–]NBAwtjones 144 指標 15小時前
There's only one player in the league that can guard LBJ and drop 30 on the other end of the court and that's argument enough for me to be #1 in the west; Kawhi Leonard.
联盟中只有一位球员能在防好勒布朗的同时在球场另一端砍下30分,这一点足够支持我给出西部第一人的人选,科怀-伦纳德。
[–]RocketsAstrophel37 94 指標 12小時前
In 20 games against Lebron Kawhi has 1 game over 29 points. Just saying.
在对阵勒布朗的20场比赛里,科怀得分超过29分的有1场。我就这么一提。
[–]76ersTiny311 38 指標 12小時前
and when did Kawhi become the spur's go-to guy on offense? this year. Kawhi had 11 in one of the first games of the season with his new role, and then when they played them the 2nd time and was more used to his new role, he scored 41. The 3rd time he had 25.
但科怀又是什么时候成为马刺的主要进攻终结点的呢?这赛季。适应着他的新角色,科怀在赛季初的一场比赛仅得11分,而当他第二次面对骑士时,他适应得更好了,最终砍下41分。第三次,他拿下25分。
[–]Spurstng29 118 指標 15小時前
Leading a team to 61 wins and the WCF as the only all star should put Kawhi in the conversation.
作为阵中唯一的全明星,把一支队伍带到61胜外加西决,是时候把科怀放入讨论了。
[–]NBAProfessorPhi 35 指標 11小時前
I'm pretty sure Pop counts as an All Star at this point
我相当确定现在的波波能顶得上一个全明星的作用。
[–]WarriorsOwnsAParrot 25 指標 16小時前
Based on stats this year, you can easily argue Kawhi > Curry, but it's tough to straight out say Kawhi > Durant. I don't think it's crazy argument to make that Kawhi could be the 2nd best player in the league, but I don't think it is clear cut.
基于这赛季的数据,你可以轻易论证科怀>库里,但很难直接断定科怀>杜兰特。我不觉得说科怀可能是联盟第二人是个疯狂的观点,但我也不觉得这是个显而易见的事实。
[–]WarriorsItsnotBatman 61 指標 15小時前
No. Sorry, Steph is the engine that drives the Warriors to two MVPs, a championship, and the league record for most wins in a season. One season of Steph having Durant to lessen the load does not diminish his true value.
反对。抱歉,库里是勇士的引擎,驱动球队拿到了两个MVP,一个总冠军,以及联盟历史最多的常规赛单赛季胜场。一个有杜兰特来分摊他肩上担子的赛季并不能减损库里的真实价值。
翻译:@汉简秦言
Kenny Smith : " We know Kawhi Leonard is the best player in the west. " (self.nba)
肯尼-史密斯:“我们都知道科怀-伦纳德是西部最好的球员。”
“如果他在场,他们本能赢球。”
我知道奥尼尔和巴克利经常这么说。但当肯尼也变成了伦纳德的粉?我觉得他经常和这两位争执,说杜兰特和库里要更好。
If he played , they would have won
I know Shaq and Charled always say this. But when did Kenny become Kawhi fan ? I think he always argue with those two that KD and Steph are better.
[–]ChopinOnTheKeys 1203 指標 15小時前
Let's all admit that Kawhi at least has a solid argument.
让我们都承认伦纳德至少有实打实的干货
[–]Celticstherestoomuch 1054 指標 15小時前
Only because Kelly Olynyk is in the East
仅仅是因为凯利-奥利尼克在东部。
[–]Heat Bandwagonwell_bang_okay 160 指標 13小時前
If Kelly Olynyk and Dion Waiters teamed up how many rings would they win
如果凯利-奥利尼克和迪昂-维特斯联手,他们能拿下多少枚戒指啊。
[–]Cavaliers BandwagonTheKingOfGhana 200 指標 13小時前
Whatever number is all of them
战无不胜,攻无不克;管他几枚,戒指全收。
[–]HeatSoulCrusher69 120 指標 14小時前
Its between him, Curry, and Durant in my opinion.
I had him solidly at #3 for a while but at this point I gotta acknowledge my irrational distaste, the dude is balling.
在我看来人选在他,库里和杜兰特中产生。
我过去一段时间里把他牢牢放在第三,但现在我意识到了我的眼光捉急,这小哥真是棒的飞起啊。
[–]Supersonicsformido 104 指標 12小時前
Not really. Steph Curry as about the same point differential as LeBron James (by RPM), but he does it on a much better team, which is harder in the same way it's harder for a 7 footer to average 10 rebounds a game when he's playing with 3 other 7 footers than when he's playing with none.
Steph Curry is obviously the best player in the west and it continues to be mind-boggling how someone whose skills are so much better than every other player in the league, and whose skills have translated into the best 3 year stretch in basketball, can be this underrated.
并非如此。库里有着和勒布朗-詹姆斯几乎相同的场均分差(根据真实正负值RPM),但他是在一支好得多的球队里做到这点的,这要更难一些。就像一个七尺长人(2米13)在一支还有另外三个七尺队友的队里,比在一支没有大个子的队里,要更难抢下场均十板一样。
斯蒂芬-库里明显是西部最好的球员,但看着比赛技巧在过去三年间实现飞升,并且技术比联盟其他人都要好很多的球员,被如此低估,真是令人一脸懵逼。
[–][DAL] Dirk NowitzkiIceClownFromIceTown 393 指標 16小時前
Shaq and Charles have been saying Kawhi's been the second best player for weeks now.
奥尼尔和巴克利这几周一直在说科怀是第二好的球员。
[–]w2chaudh 240 指標 16小時前*
They've been saying it since last season. Charles was saying Kawhi was the best player in the league last season. Barkely also said Klay was a better player then Steph and KD at the beginning of the season. He also ranked Klay ahead of Steph in the player rankings they did midway through the season.
他们从上赛季就一直这么说了。巴克利上赛季说科怀是联盟最佳球员。在赛季初,他还说汤普森是一个强于库里和杜兰特的球员。在赛季中期,他也在他们的球员排行榜上把汤普森排在库里之前。
[–][PHI] Joel Embiidjayzee1138 181 指標 15小時前
I always love that Charles' argument is that Kawhi and Klay are two way players which makes them better, but Chuck was awful on defense.
我一直喜欢巴克利的论据,即科怀和克莱是攻防兼顾的球员,这让他们变得更强,尽管巴克利自己在防守端糟透了。
[–]ThunderDaBear816 308 指標 15小時前
Shows hes non biased
证明他没啥偏心。
[–]mmm31415 133 指標 15小時前
maybe that's why he respects it so much. because it was something he wasn't good at, and the dude was a master of basketball
可能这是为什么他如此看重攻防兼顾的原因。因为这是他自己没能擅长的东西,这老哥可是个篮球专家啊。
[–]SpursScipio_Africanes[] 88 指標 15小時前
I think it shows self-awareness. Whereas with Shaq, he doesn't respect any big man that doesn't have his offensive skillset. Just look at how brutal he is with his Dwight criticism. Of the 2 best big men in the 2000s (Duncan and Dirk), his preference for Duncan's game is really obvious, and it's not all because he's the better player.
我觉得则表示他有自知之明。反观鲨鱼,他不尊重任何没有他进攻技能包的大个子。就看看他对霍华德的批评有多不留情吧。对于2000年代最棒的两个大个子(邓肯和诺维斯基),他明显更偏好邓肯,这不全是因为邓肯是个更好的球员。
[–]Lakers Bandwagondonniedarkoo 229 指標 15小時前
Kawhi was having an all time great playoffs until he got hurt
伦纳德曾经拥有一段历史级别的季后赛之旅,直到他受伤。
[–]Rockets Bandwagoni_am_penis 81 指標 13小時前*
Kawhi was
He still is. He'll be back, might even play game 3.
伦纳德曾经?
他还在。他会回来的,或许第三场就会回来了。
[–]SpursHuckFinn69 34 指標 13小時前
Not sure why this is getting downvoted. Down 2-0 isn't that insurmountable if we get Kawhi back for game 3 especially considering the next two are at home.
不知道为什么被灭了。翻盘0-2并非毫无可能,如果我们能在第三场迎回伦纳德复出,再考虑到接下来两场是我们主场。
[–]NBAbigbeau 45 指標 11小時前
Could you imagine if he came back game 3, looked slow, yall go down 3-0. Comes back on a tear and beats the warriors in 7 after being down 3-0. Oh man, the memes....
你能想象吗,如果他第三场归来,看上去还不是很利索,结果0-3落后。再一波连胜王者归来,在0-3落后之后连扳四场击败勇士。天呐老哥,到时候铺天盖地的嘲讽啊....
[–]Rockets1he3eard 299 指標 16小時前
I guess this was what Durant meant when he was tired of being 2nd. He wanted to be closer to 5th.
我猜,这就是杜兰特说他厌倦当第二的真实含义。他想离第五名近一点儿。
[–]NBAwtjones 144 指標 15小時前
There's only one player in the league that can guard LBJ and drop 30 on the other end of the court and that's argument enough for me to be #1 in the west; Kawhi Leonard.
联盟中只有一位球员能在防好勒布朗的同时在球场另一端砍下30分,这一点足够支持我给出西部第一人的人选,科怀-伦纳德。
[–]RocketsAstrophel37 94 指標 12小時前
In 20 games against Lebron Kawhi has 1 game over 29 points. Just saying.
在对阵勒布朗的20场比赛里,科怀得分超过29分的有1场。我就这么一提。
[–]76ersTiny311 38 指標 12小時前
and when did Kawhi become the spur's go-to guy on offense? this year. Kawhi had 11 in one of the first games of the season with his new role, and then when they played them the 2nd time and was more used to his new role, he scored 41. The 3rd time he had 25.
但科怀又是什么时候成为马刺的主要进攻终结点的呢?这赛季。适应着他的新角色,科怀在赛季初的一场比赛仅得11分,而当他第二次面对骑士时,他适应得更好了,最终砍下41分。第三次,他拿下25分。
[–]Spurstng29 118 指標 15小時前
Leading a team to 61 wins and the WCF as the only all star should put Kawhi in the conversation.
作为阵中唯一的全明星,把一支队伍带到61胜外加西决,是时候把科怀放入讨论了。
[–]NBAProfessorPhi 35 指標 11小時前
I'm pretty sure Pop counts as an All Star at this point
我相当确定现在的波波能顶得上一个全明星的作用。
[–]WarriorsOwnsAParrot 25 指標 16小時前
Based on stats this year, you can easily argue Kawhi > Curry, but it's tough to straight out say Kawhi > Durant. I don't think it's crazy argument to make that Kawhi could be the 2nd best player in the league, but I don't think it is clear cut.
基于这赛季的数据,你可以轻易论证科怀>库里,但很难直接断定科怀>杜兰特。我不觉得说科怀可能是联盟第二人是个疯狂的观点,但我也不觉得这是个显而易见的事实。
[–]WarriorsItsnotBatman 61 指標 15小時前
No. Sorry, Steph is the engine that drives the Warriors to two MVPs, a championship, and the league record for most wins in a season. One season of Steph having Durant to lessen the load does not diminish his true value.
反对。抱歉,库里是勇士的引擎,驱动球队拿到了两个MVP,一个总冠军,以及联盟历史最多的常规赛单赛季胜场。一个有杜兰特来分摊他肩上担子的赛季并不能减损库里的真实价值。
翻译:@汉简秦言