美媒Legion Hoops发问,等你来决定:如果让你投票,你认为一名球员需要做什么才能赢得MVP?在最新的一期MVP榜上,恩比德排名第一,他做到的就是内外线的突投结合,排名第二的约基奇,他就是做到了全面,得分助攻篮板都能够帮助球队,而排名第三的字母哥,他就做到了统治内线的攻防,让我们来看看球迷们是如何看待的!
I think I'd vote Joel Embiid at this point. His recent play has been OD on top of his play all season!
我认为目前我会投票给恩比德。他最近的表现超乎寻常,这个赛季的表现也很不错!
If Embiid just keeps doing what he’s done the past 3 weeks he’ll win
如果恩比德能保持过去三周的表现,他就能获得MVP。
Games played, consistency, impact on team, team standings, and stats.
比赛出场次数、稳定性、对球队的影响、球队排名和统计数据。
If you can’t lead a team to the playoffs, what is your value? If the MVP is all about the regular season, but every team’s goal is to get, into the playoffs as the first goal, the MVP should be the person who’s dominant style of play would get the average team to the playoffs.
如果你不能带领球队进入季后赛,你的价值是什么?如果MVP只关注常规赛,但每个球队的目标是尽快进入季后赛,那么MVP应该是那些卓越的球风并且能让综合实力一般的球队进入季后赛的人。
Best player on the best team, if the numbers add up is always the main criteria… except for now since it’s Giannis. I never seen a guy so likable, talented, and inspirational be denied the way Giannis is. Giannis the MVP
最佳球队的最佳球员,如果数据匹配则始终是主要标准......除了现在是字母哥。我从未见过一个像字母哥一样如此讨人喜欢、天赋异禀又活力四射。字母哥是MVP。
Idk but being the best player in the world on the best team while being the best 2 way player in the league and proven playoff success is a solid start
我不知道,但是成为最好的球队中最好的球员,同时是联盟中最好的攻防两端球员然后季后赛成功是一个很好的开始。
Crush your minutes. Have the best basic + advanced stats. Lead your team to wins by helping your teammates play their best. Be available and consistent. Have the most positive impact on the most games.
全方位碾压。拥有最好的基础和高级统计数据。通过帮助队友发挥最佳水平带领球队获胜。在场上积极,稳定。在大多数比赛中具有正面的影响。
Top 6 seed
Averaging at least 20/5/5 or better
Has less than 3 all stars around him
Those are just the base requirements, they got to be the player that without them the team would be the worst compared to any other team
排行前6
场均至少20/5/5
他周围没有3个全明星队友
这些只是基本要求,他们必须是那种,球队有他没他是天壤之别的队伍。
If I were voting MVP, the criteria simple:
• top three team
• top 10 offensive player (TOT points)
• clutch gene (Big stops, Big shots)
• Least mistakes (less TO, less fouls)
如果我投票MVP,标准很简单:
•排名前三的球队•前十的进攻球员(总分) •巨星风范(大心脏) •最少的失误(较少的空篮不进,较少的犯规)
Be the single most dominant reason his team is a contender. Both of these are good choices. Joker has my vote, think the nuggets wouldn’t be a playoff team without him never mind a contender
成为他的球队成为总冠军竞争者主要因素。他俩都是不错的选择,但我选约老师,因为没有他,掘金将不会是季后赛球队,更不用说总冠军竞争者了。
They aren’t a contender. They’ll be home with a quickness. Jokic gets exposed when playoff time comes. He’s a defensive liability and that shows up in a 7 game series. Furthest he could go is round 2.
他们不是总冠军竞争者。他们会很快回家。在季后赛到来时,约基奇的弱点会暴露出来。他是防守上的弱点,这在季后赛中会显现出来
A very clear set of metrics that gain you points on a scale: win the scoring title (5 pts), lead league in rebounds, assists or steals (3 pts), win 5+ player-of-the-week awards (2 pts) etc. This should be straightforward already.
一组非常清晰的度量标准,可以让你在一个评分尺度上获得积分:赢得得分王(5分),领先联盟的篮板、助攻或抢断(3分),赢得5个以上的周最佳球员奖项(2分)等等。这应该已经很明显了。
top 3 record in the league, efficient, high numbers, good defensively, playing at least 65 games
联盟前三的战绩,效率高,数据强,防守出色,至少打65场比赛。
Few things:
1. Influence on the team (difference on/off the court)
2. Stats average
3. Style of playing (selfish or a team player)
4. Team's position on the table
As previous examples I'm going with Jokic!
Triple double average, losing score when he is off the court, team player
几件事情:
1. 对团队的影响(在场/不在场时,球队的差异)
2. 平均数据
3. 球风(独还是团队合作)
4. 球队在积分榜上的位置
像上面我说的,我选择约基!场均三双,他不在场上时球队就变了,团队合作型球员。
So let me get this straight: Jokic is MVP because the Nuggets front office blows and can’t construct a roster only having maybe one/two players who are truly playable in the playoffs on their bench? What does that have to do with the value of the actual players in discussion?
所以让我来弄清楚一件事:约基之所以获得MVP,是因为掘金的管理层很差,无法构建一个在季后赛中有竞争力的阵容?这与讨论中实际球员的价值有什么关系?
They have Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon, also KCP, CB, Thomas Bryant, MPJ. It's not shitty team actually, so your argument is not true. They had 4 straight loss and even with that said Sixers are tied with Denver. I mean its a clear winner here. Btw Sixers GM is bad...
他们有贾马尔,默里和阿隆·戈登,还有KCP,CB,托马斯·布莱恩特,MPJ。这并不是一支烂队,所以你的论点是不正确的。他们连续4场比赛输了,即使这样,76人队也和掘金队排行一样。我的意思是谁输谁赢很明显了。顺便说一句,76人队的总经理也很糟糕...
Imo an MVP has to be the Most Valuable Player to their team. I don't even know why that's up for debate. Which teams suffers the most in a season, when their star is absent or ineffective? It's up for debate, but that SHOULD be the debate. A player's availability also adds value
在我看来,MVP必须是他们团队中最有价值的球员。我甚至不知道为什么会有争议。当球队的巨星缺席或效率低下时,哪支球队在一个赛季中遭受最多的损失?这是有待讨论的,但这应该是讨论的内容。球员的可用性也增加了价值。
That's part of the problem, everyone had a different definition of MVP. Best player, most valuable to team... really should just be the eye test. Best players on one of the best teams
这就是问题的一部分,每个人对MVP的定义都不同。最佳球员,对球队最有价值...真的应该只是凭眼睛来看。最好的球员在最好的团队。
Why can't the Most Valuable Player award go to the Most Valuanle Player though? That's where they lose me.
为什么最有价值球员奖不能颁给最有价值球员呢?这就是让我不理解的地方。
Needs to be statistically great, play on a winning team, have significant clutch moments, and most importantly, they need to have played 70/82 games.
需要在统计上表现出色,在一支赢球的球队中打球,有高光时刻,最重要的是,一个赛季至少达70场比赛。
If someone is the only player to avg a triple double in a season and they win over 80% of games when he gets a triple double, he deserves MVP hands down.
如果有人在一个赛季中是唯一一个场均三双的球员,并且当他拿到三双时赢得的比赛超过80%,那么他就应该毫无疑问地获得MVP奖项。
Hard to quantify but MVP should be how much better you make your team. Using Ja as an example, if whenever he’s out Memphis can still win most of their games, he’s not the MVP.
The award doesn’t go to the fan consensus’s best player, the scoring leader or best defender.
难以量化,但MVP应该是你让你的球队变得有多好。以莫兰特为例,如果他不在场上,灰熊仍然可以赢得大部分比赛,那么他就不是MVP。 这个奖项不是给球迷一致认为是最好的球员、得分王或最佳防守者的。
您认为一名球员需要做什么才能赢得MVP?欢迎在评论区留下您的观点!
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美媒Legion Hoops发问,等你来决定:如果让你投票,你认为一名球员需要做什么才能赢得MVP?在最新的一期MVP榜上,恩比德排名第一,他做到的就是内外线的突投结合,排名第二的约基奇,他就是做到了全面,得分助攻篮板都能够帮助球队,而排名第三的字母哥,他就做到了统治内线的攻防,让我们来看看球迷们是如何看待的!
I think I'd vote Joel Embiid at this point. His recent play has been OD on top of his play all season!
我认为目前我会投票给恩比德。他最近的表现超乎寻常,这个赛季的表现也很不错!
If Embiid just keeps doing what he’s done the past 3 weeks he’ll win
如果恩比德能保持过去三周的表现,他就能获得MVP。
Games played, consistency, impact on team, team standings, and stats.
比赛出场次数、稳定性、对球队的影响、球队排名和统计数据。
If you can’t lead a team to the playoffs, what is your value? If the MVP is all about the regular season, but every team’s goal is to get, into the playoffs as the first goal, the MVP should be the person who’s dominant style of play would get the average team to the playoffs.
如果你不能带领球队进入季后赛,你的价值是什么?如果MVP只关注常规赛,但每个球队的目标是尽快进入季后赛,那么MVP应该是那些卓越的球风并且能让综合实力一般的球队进入季后赛的人。
Best player on the best team, if the numbers add up is always the main criteria… except for now since it’s Giannis. I never seen a guy so likable, talented, and inspirational be denied the way Giannis is. Giannis the MVP
最佳球队的最佳球员,如果数据匹配则始终是主要标准......除了现在是字母哥。我从未见过一个像字母哥一样如此讨人喜欢、天赋异禀又活力四射。字母哥是MVP。
Idk but being the best player in the world on the best team while being the best 2 way player in the league and proven playoff success is a solid start
我不知道,但是成为最好的球队中最好的球员,同时是联盟中最好的攻防两端球员然后季后赛成功是一个很好的开始。
Crush your minutes. Have the best basic + advanced stats. Lead your team to wins by helping your teammates play their best. Be available and consistent. Have the most positive impact on the most games.
全方位碾压。拥有最好的基础和高级统计数据。通过帮助队友发挥最佳水平带领球队获胜。在场上积极,稳定。在大多数比赛中具有正面的影响。
Top 6 seed
Averaging at least 20/5/5 or better
Has less than 3 all stars around him
Those are just the base requirements, they got to be the player that without them the team would be the worst compared to any other team
排行前6
场均至少20/5/5
他周围没有3个全明星队友
这些只是基本要求,他们必须是那种,球队有他没他是天壤之别的队伍。
If I were voting MVP, the criteria simple:
• top three team
• top 10 offensive player (TOT points)
• clutch gene (Big stops, Big shots)
• Least mistakes (less TO, less fouls)
如果我投票MVP,标准很简单:
•排名前三的球队•前十的进攻球员(总分) •巨星风范(大心脏) •最少的失误(较少的空篮不进,较少的犯规)
Be the single most dominant reason his team is a contender. Both of these are good choices. Joker has my vote, think the nuggets wouldn’t be a playoff team without him never mind a contender
成为他的球队成为总冠军竞争者主要因素。他俩都是不错的选择,但我选约老师,因为没有他,掘金将不会是季后赛球队,更不用说总冠军竞争者了。
They aren’t a contender. They’ll be home with a quickness. Jokic gets exposed when playoff time comes. He’s a defensive liability and that shows up in a 7 game series. Furthest he could go is round 2.
他们不是总冠军竞争者。他们会很快回家。在季后赛到来时,约基奇的弱点会暴露出来。他是防守上的弱点,这在季后赛中会显现出来
A very clear set of metrics that gain you points on a scale: win the scoring title (5 pts), lead league in rebounds, assists or steals (3 pts), win 5+ player-of-the-week awards (2 pts) etc. This should be straightforward already.
一组非常清晰的度量标准,可以让你在一个评分尺度上获得积分:赢得得分王(5分),领先联盟的篮板、助攻或抢断(3分),赢得5个以上的周最佳球员奖项(2分)等等。这应该已经很明显了。
top 3 record in the league, efficient, high numbers, good defensively, playing at least 65 games
联盟前三的战绩,效率高,数据强,防守出色,至少打65场比赛。
Few things:
1. Influence on the team (difference on/off the court)
2. Stats average
3. Style of playing (selfish or a team player)
4. Team's position on the table
As previous examples I'm going with Jokic!
Triple double average, losing score when he is off the court, team player
几件事情:
1. 对团队的影响(在场/不在场时,球队的差异)
2. 平均数据
3. 球风(独还是团队合作)
4. 球队在积分榜上的位置
像上面我说的,我选择约基!场均三双,他不在场上时球队就变了,团队合作型球员。
So let me get this straight: Jokic is MVP because the Nuggets front office blows and can’t construct a roster only having maybe one/two players who are truly playable in the playoffs on their bench? What does that have to do with the value of the actual players in discussion?
所以让我来弄清楚一件事:约基之所以获得MVP,是因为掘金的管理层很差,无法构建一个在季后赛中有竞争力的阵容?这与讨论中实际球员的价值有什么关系?
They have Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon, also KCP, CB, Thomas Bryant, MPJ. It's not shitty team actually, so your argument is not true. They had 4 straight loss and even with that said Sixers are tied with Denver. I mean its a clear winner here. Btw Sixers GM is bad...
他们有贾马尔,默里和阿隆·戈登,还有KCP,CB,托马斯·布莱恩特,MPJ。这并不是一支烂队,所以你的论点是不正确的。他们连续4场比赛输了,即使这样,76人队也和掘金队排行一样。我的意思是谁输谁赢很明显了。顺便说一句,76人队的总经理也很糟糕...
Imo an MVP has to be the Most Valuable Player to their team. I don't even know why that's up for debate. Which teams suffers the most in a season, when their star is absent or ineffective? It's up for debate, but that SHOULD be the debate. A player's availability also adds value
在我看来,MVP必须是他们团队中最有价值的球员。我甚至不知道为什么会有争议。当球队的巨星缺席或效率低下时,哪支球队在一个赛季中遭受最多的损失?这是有待讨论的,但这应该是讨论的内容。球员的可用性也增加了价值。
That's part of the problem, everyone had a different definition of MVP. Best player, most valuable to team... really should just be the eye test. Best players on one of the best teams
这就是问题的一部分,每个人对MVP的定义都不同。最佳球员,对球队最有价值...真的应该只是凭眼睛来看。最好的球员在最好的团队。
Why can't the Most Valuable Player award go to the Most Valuanle Player though? That's where they lose me.
为什么最有价值球员奖不能颁给最有价值球员呢?这就是让我不理解的地方。
Needs to be statistically great, play on a winning team, have significant clutch moments, and most importantly, they need to have played 70/82 games.
需要在统计上表现出色,在一支赢球的球队中打球,有高光时刻,最重要的是,一个赛季至少达70场比赛。
If someone is the only player to avg a triple double in a season and they win over 80% of games when he gets a triple double, he deserves MVP hands down.
如果有人在一个赛季中是唯一一个场均三双的球员,并且当他拿到三双时赢得的比赛超过80%,那么他就应该毫无疑问地获得MVP奖项。
Hard to quantify but MVP should be how much better you make your team. Using Ja as an example, if whenever he’s out Memphis can still win most of their games, he’s not the MVP.
The award doesn’t go to the fan consensus’s best player, the scoring leader or best defender.
难以量化,但MVP应该是你让你的球队变得有多好。以莫兰特为例,如果他不在场上,灰熊仍然可以赢得大部分比赛,那么他就不是MVP。 这个奖项不是给球迷一致认为是最好的球员、得分王或最佳防守者的。
您认为一名球员需要做什么才能赢得MVP?欢迎在评论区留下您的观点!
(文/@洛城里球迷最佳视角)
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