美媒StatMuse今日发推:纳什VS保罗,谁的历史地位更高?自从保罗去了太阳队,关于两人的争论也是没间断。同是控卫的两人传球能力都很出色,纳什打球华丽速度快,但防守不见长;保罗防守更加出色,进攻技巧上更稳定,也是他冠以控卫之神的保障。荣誉方面两人同样没有总冠军,但保罗率领太阳打进了总决赛,这是纳什没有做到的。纳什的连庄常规赛MVP也奠定了他的历史地位。关于纳什和保罗的历史地位谁更高,来看看美国网友的想法!
Paul is still a better player Nash robbed 2 Kobe of mvps
保罗仍然是更好的那位球员,纳什抢走了科比的两个mvp
All casuals will say Nash just because he has two MVPs but In no way was he better than Cp3
所有的人都会说纳什更高,只是因为他有两个常规赛mvp但他绝不比保罗强
CP3. The one that has been much more consistent throughout their careers, the one that has been elite the longest, the better scorer, the much better defender, the guy that made f*cking DeAndre Jordan of all people a 1×all-NBA 1st team and 2×all-NBA 3rd team
保罗。他在整个职业生涯中表现得更加稳定,两者间那个成为巨星时间更长的,更好的得分手,更好的防守者,那个让德安德鲁·乔丹成为1×all-NBA第一阵容和2×all-NBA第三阵容的人
Steve Nash, no doubt, 2x MVP in an era with Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Dirk etc is crazy
Think about if Paul was a 2x MVP in an era with LBJ KD Giannis etc
纳什,没有争议,与奥尼尔、科比、邓肯、德克等人在一个时代里两次获得MVP是疯狂的。想想看,如果保罗在詹姆斯、杜兰特、字母哥等人的时代获得两次MVP
Steve Nash was the most efficient floor general the league has ever seen. 5 time league assist leader and 4 time member of the 50-40-90 club. Nash dedicated 10 unforgettable seasons to Phoenix.
纳什是联盟有史以来效率最高的球员。5次助攻王,4次180俱乐部成员。纳什为太阳队奉献了10个难忘的赛季。
Nash got 2 MVPs (fraudulent ones).
Career numbers are similar.
Both great playmakers and passers.
Close but Steve, probably.
纳什拿到了2个mvp(骗人的)。
职业数据也类似。
他们都是伟大的组织者和传球手。
很接近,但史蒂夫可能是历史地位更高的那个。
Harden higher than both.
哈登历史地位高于两者。
CP3. First off the David Stern veto robbed CP3 of any rings. When CP3 got to Phx it was like Nash going to LA. Nash was terrible in LA. CP3 took his team to the finals. And was in top 10 mvp poll all year. CP3 is retiring after this season or the next
保罗。首先大卫·斯特恩否决了保罗的所有戒指。当保罗来到菲尔克斯,就像纳什来到洛杉矶。纳什在洛杉矶的表现很糟糕。保罗带领他的球队进入了总决赛。整个赛季mvp排名前十。保罗将在本赛季或下赛季退役
This is why we need a balance between stats, accolades, and eye test to measure greatness because there are a bunch of kids in these comments who have NEVER seen Steve Nash play but validate the 2 MVP’s he stole from those black men.
这就是为什么我们需要在数据,荣誉和视觉感受之间取得平衡来衡量伟大的原因,因为在这些评论中有一群孩子从未见过史蒂夫·纳什打球,但认同了他从那些黑人那里偷来的两个MVP。
This one's tough, but I'll go with CP3. He at least was able to get his team to the finals. Steve Nash had an early version of a super team and couldn't get past the Spurs or the Mavericks. But those same teams also gave Chris Paul Problems.
这个很难,但是我选保罗。他至少能够带领他的球队进入总决赛。史蒂夫·纳什拥有一支早期版本的超级球队,他无法超越马刺或小牛。但这些球队也给保罗带来了麻烦。
Close but it’s CP.. CP’s defense is routinely underrated in All-time PG talks. He’s pretty easily the most well-rounded point guard of all time.. doesn’t mean he’s the best but he has the least flaws of any of them
很接近,但会是保罗..在历史控球后卫的谈论中,保罗的防守经常被低估。他无疑是有史以来最全面的控卫。这并不意味着他是最好的,但他的缺点是最少的
as much as i love steve nash you can’t look at the stats and take him over cp3 for anything besides maybe shooting
虽然我很喜欢纳什,你不能只看数据就认为他比保罗更厉害,可能除了投篮
2× NBA Most Valuable Player (2005, 2006)
8× NBA All-Star (2002, 2003, 2005–2008, 2010, 2012)
3× All-NBA First Team (2005–2007)
2× All-NBA Second Team (2008, 2010)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2002, 2003)
5× NBA assists leader (2005–2007, 2010, 2011)
4× 50–40–90 club (2006, 2008–2010)
2次入选NBA最有价值球员(2005、2006)
8次入选NBA全明星(2002、2003、2005-2008、2010、2012)
3次入选nba最佳阵容(2005-2007)
2次入选nba第二阵容(2008,2010)
2次入选nba第三阵容(2002,2003)
5次NBA助攻王(2005-2007,2010,2011)
4× 180俱乐部(2006,2008-2010)
Definitely cp3 in peoples minds Nash is being remembered as a bad coach in Brooklyn unfortunately lol I don’t agree but it’s what people will remember especially our days
毫无疑问保罗,在人们心目中纳什被记成一个糟糕的布鲁克林教练。不幸的是哈哈,我不同意,但是人们会记住纳什,尤其是我们那个时代
CP3.
Better defender, and just as good at everything else. Nash gets the nod as a “pure shooter”, but CP3 aint even bad at shooting. plus hes more athletic and is a better finisher. also has made it to a finals.
保罗。
更好的防守者,其他方面也同样出色。纳什被公认为“纯粹的射手”,但保罗在投篮方面并不差。而且保罗的运动能力更强,是一个更好的终结者。也进入了总决赛。
CP3.. there’s been a couple times he could have won the mvp award .
保罗. .有好几次他都可以获得MVP。
It's got to be Nash cause he got 2 MVP They both never got a RING so it don't matter. Do Nash got a ring?
肯定是纳什,因为他拿到了两个MVP,他们都没有拿到过总冠军戒指,所以这无关紧要。纳什有戒指吗?
Nash, led his team to WCFs three times in the toughest era for the West ever
纳什,带领他的球队在西部最艰难的时期三次进入西决
While I'm sure both smoke, Nash really seems like more of a stoner. Maybe its the hair.
虽然我确定他们俩都抽烟,但纳什看起来更像个瘾君子。也许是头发的问题。
Steve Nash the two time MVP is/was better than CP no rings
纳什是两届MVP获得者,比没有戒指的保罗强多了
Stop this. It’s Steve Nash. Nash was like a hybrid of Curry and Jokic.
Putting CP3 next to Kevin Johnson would’ve been more appropriate.
停止争论。纳什地位更高。纳什就像是库里和约基奇的混合体。把保罗放在凯文·约翰逊旁边会更合适。
As a Canadian, it pains me to say this, but CP3. If Nash played nowadays and took more 3s like he should’ve, maybe a different story.
作为一个加拿大人,我很不想这么说,但是我会选择保罗。如果纳什现在打球,而且像他应该的那样投更多的3分,也许情况就不一样了。
Nash for accolades but I think Chris Paul is the better player
纳什荣誉加身,但我认为克里斯·保罗是更好的球员
......
纳什和保罗的争论还会持续,下赛季的太阳同样值得期待,老炮保罗的生涯还在延续,从目前来看,你心目中这两位控卫的历史地位谁更胜一筹?欢迎评论区留言
(文/@洛城里 周某看球)
美媒StatMuse今日发推:纳什VS保罗,谁的历史地位更高?自从保罗去了太阳队,关于两人的争论也是没间断。同是控卫的两人传球能力都很出色,纳什打球华丽速度快,但防守不见长;保罗防守更加出色,进攻技巧上更稳定,也是他冠以控卫之神的保障。荣誉方面两人同样没有总冠军,但保罗率领太阳打进了总决赛,这是纳什没有做到的。纳什的连庄常规赛MVP也奠定了他的历史地位。关于纳什和保罗的历史地位谁更高,来看看美国网友的想法!
Paul is still a better player Nash robbed 2 Kobe of mvps
保罗仍然是更好的那位球员,纳什抢走了科比的两个mvp
All casuals will say Nash just because he has two MVPs but In no way was he better than Cp3
所有的人都会说纳什更高,只是因为他有两个常规赛mvp但他绝不比保罗强
CP3. The one that has been much more consistent throughout their careers, the one that has been elite the longest, the better scorer, the much better defender, the guy that made f*cking DeAndre Jordan of all people a 1×all-NBA 1st team and 2×all-NBA 3rd team
保罗。他在整个职业生涯中表现得更加稳定,两者间那个成为巨星时间更长的,更好的得分手,更好的防守者,那个让德安德鲁·乔丹成为1×all-NBA第一阵容和2×all-NBA第三阵容的人
Steve Nash, no doubt, 2x MVP in an era with Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Dirk etc is crazy
Think about if Paul was a 2x MVP in an era with LBJ KD Giannis etc
纳什,没有争议,与奥尼尔、科比、邓肯、德克等人在一个时代里两次获得MVP是疯狂的。想想看,如果保罗在詹姆斯、杜兰特、字母哥等人的时代获得两次MVP
Steve Nash was the most efficient floor general the league has ever seen. 5 time league assist leader and 4 time member of the 50-40-90 club. Nash dedicated 10 unforgettable seasons to Phoenix.
纳什是联盟有史以来效率最高的球员。5次助攻王,4次180俱乐部成员。纳什为太阳队奉献了10个难忘的赛季。
Nash got 2 MVPs (fraudulent ones).
Career numbers are similar.
Both great playmakers and passers.
Close but Steve, probably.
纳什拿到了2个mvp(骗人的)。
职业数据也类似。
他们都是伟大的组织者和传球手。
很接近,但史蒂夫可能是历史地位更高的那个。
Harden higher than both.
哈登历史地位高于两者。
CP3. First off the David Stern veto robbed CP3 of any rings. When CP3 got to Phx it was like Nash going to LA. Nash was terrible in LA. CP3 took his team to the finals. And was in top 10 mvp poll all year. CP3 is retiring after this season or the next
保罗。首先大卫·斯特恩否决了保罗的所有戒指。当保罗来到菲尔克斯,就像纳什来到洛杉矶。纳什在洛杉矶的表现很糟糕。保罗带领他的球队进入了总决赛。整个赛季mvp排名前十。保罗将在本赛季或下赛季退役
This is why we need a balance between stats, accolades, and eye test to measure greatness because there are a bunch of kids in these comments who have NEVER seen Steve Nash play but validate the 2 MVP’s he stole from those black men.
这就是为什么我们需要在数据,荣誉和视觉感受之间取得平衡来衡量伟大的原因,因为在这些评论中有一群孩子从未见过史蒂夫·纳什打球,但认同了他从那些黑人那里偷来的两个MVP。
This one's tough, but I'll go with CP3. He at least was able to get his team to the finals. Steve Nash had an early version of a super team and couldn't get past the Spurs or the Mavericks. But those same teams also gave Chris Paul Problems.
这个很难,但是我选保罗。他至少能够带领他的球队进入总决赛。史蒂夫·纳什拥有一支早期版本的超级球队,他无法超越马刺或小牛。但这些球队也给保罗带来了麻烦。
Close but it’s CP.. CP’s defense is routinely underrated in All-time PG talks. He’s pretty easily the most well-rounded point guard of all time.. doesn’t mean he’s the best but he has the least flaws of any of them
很接近,但会是保罗..在历史控球后卫的谈论中,保罗的防守经常被低估。他无疑是有史以来最全面的控卫。这并不意味着他是最好的,但他的缺点是最少的
as much as i love steve nash you can’t look at the stats and take him over cp3 for anything besides maybe shooting
虽然我很喜欢纳什,你不能只看数据就认为他比保罗更厉害,可能除了投篮
2× NBA Most Valuable Player (2005, 2006)
8× NBA All-Star (2002, 2003, 2005–2008, 2010, 2012)
3× All-NBA First Team (2005–2007)
2× All-NBA Second Team (2008, 2010)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2002, 2003)
5× NBA assists leader (2005–2007, 2010, 2011)
4× 50–40–90 club (2006, 2008–2010)
2次入选NBA最有价值球员(2005、2006)
8次入选NBA全明星(2002、2003、2005-2008、2010、2012)
3次入选nba最佳阵容(2005-2007)
2次入选nba第二阵容(2008,2010)
2次入选nba第三阵容(2002,2003)
5次NBA助攻王(2005-2007,2010,2011)
4× 180俱乐部(2006,2008-2010)
Definitely cp3 in peoples minds Nash is being remembered as a bad coach in Brooklyn unfortunately lol I don’t agree but it’s what people will remember especially our days
毫无疑问保罗,在人们心目中纳什被记成一个糟糕的布鲁克林教练。不幸的是哈哈,我不同意,但是人们会记住纳什,尤其是我们那个时代
CP3.
Better defender, and just as good at everything else. Nash gets the nod as a “pure shooter”, but CP3 aint even bad at shooting. plus hes more athletic and is a better finisher. also has made it to a finals.
保罗。
更好的防守者,其他方面也同样出色。纳什被公认为“纯粹的射手”,但保罗在投篮方面并不差。而且保罗的运动能力更强,是一个更好的终结者。也进入了总决赛。
CP3.. there’s been a couple times he could have won the mvp award .
保罗. .有好几次他都可以获得MVP。
It's got to be Nash cause he got 2 MVP They both never got a RING so it don't matter. Do Nash got a ring?
肯定是纳什,因为他拿到了两个MVP,他们都没有拿到过总冠军戒指,所以这无关紧要。纳什有戒指吗?
Nash, led his team to WCFs three times in the toughest era for the West ever
纳什,带领他的球队在西部最艰难的时期三次进入西决
While I'm sure both smoke, Nash really seems like more of a stoner. Maybe its the hair.
虽然我确定他们俩都抽烟,但纳什看起来更像个瘾君子。也许是头发的问题。
Steve Nash the two time MVP is/was better than CP no rings
纳什是两届MVP获得者,比没有戒指的保罗强多了
Stop this. It’s Steve Nash. Nash was like a hybrid of Curry and Jokic.
Putting CP3 next to Kevin Johnson would’ve been more appropriate.
停止争论。纳什地位更高。纳什就像是库里和约基奇的混合体。把保罗放在凯文·约翰逊旁边会更合适。
As a Canadian, it pains me to say this, but CP3. If Nash played nowadays and took more 3s like he should’ve, maybe a different story.
作为一个加拿大人,我很不想这么说,但是我会选择保罗。如果纳什现在打球,而且像他应该的那样投更多的3分,也许情况就不一样了。
Nash for accolades but I think Chris Paul is the better player
纳什荣誉加身,但我认为克里斯·保罗是更好的球员
......
纳什和保罗的争论还会持续,下赛季的太阳同样值得期待,老炮保罗的生涯还在延续,从目前来看,你心目中这两位控卫的历史地位谁更胜一筹?欢迎评论区留言
(文/@洛城里 周某看球)