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网友DescriptionNo5362:[Deveney] BREAKING NEWS from @SteveBHoop ... Source tells @HeavyOnSports that Kevin Durant will meet with @BrooklynNets owner Joe Tsai this week as his request for a trade has reached a stalemate
来自@SteveBHoop 的突发新闻...消息人士告诉@HeavyOnSports,凯文杜兰特本周将与@BrooklynNets 蔡老板会面,因为他的交易请求陷入了僵局。
Dubstep_Caruso
Tsai finally secured a pint of Scarlett Johannson's bathwater
蔡老板终于弄到了一瓶斯嘉丽约翰逊的洗澡水了
diffeqmaster
Does he really think KD can't tell the difference?
他真的认为KD会分辨不出来吗?
Ghoul-Sama
Either kd is gonna stay or he gonna give more teams he would consider
要么kd会留下来,要么他会给更多他会想去的球队。
DrOzmitazBuckshank
The teams that would want him are contenders looking to get over the hump. Those teams are typically short on draft picks and high value young pieces, which is what the Nets want. That puts everyone in a weird spot, and it’s even more compounded by the rookie max restrictions.
He can either go to a team that doesn’t want/need him for their rebuilding assets, or a team that could use him for a bunch of stuff the Nets don’t want. That being the case, nobody can put together a trade package for KD that both sides would find acceptable.
Edit: Add a third group to that: teams in the middle with pieces the Nets would want, but that can’t be traded for because of Simmons.
希望得到他的球队是那些希望克服困难的竞争者。这些球队通常缺少选秀权和高价值的年轻球员,这正是篮网想要的。这使每个人都处于一个奇怪的处境,而且新秀的最大限制使情况让其更加复杂。
他要么去一个不想要/需要他成为重建资产的球队,要么去一个可以用一堆篮网不想要的筹码换取杜兰特的球队。在这种情况下,没有人能够为KD提出一个双方都能接受的交易方案。
另外:拉第三方,处于中间位置的球队,他们有网队想要的东西,但因为西蒙斯的缘故,他们不能被交易。
reb_mccuster
idk where you heard they would take that deal but the Nets asking price is way higher than that. They want multiple All Stars (at least 2) and basically every tradable pick the team getting him has available with no protections. That's a huge ask even for Kevin Durant.
我不知道你在哪听说他们会接受这笔交易,因为篮网的要价远高于此。他们想要多个全明星球员(至少 2 个),而且基本上球队要得到他的话每个可交易选秀权都需要是无保护的条件。在交易杜兰特这件事上,这是一个非常夸张的要求。
Bigbadbuck
If I was tsai I’d say let’s give this team a shot. If it doesn’t work I promise I’ll move you and kyrie by the deadline
如果我是蔡老板的话,我会再给这支球队一个机会。如果还是不行,我保证我会在截止日期前送走杜欧。
reb_mccuster
"hey dumbass you're literally priceless and no one can afford you in a trade, just stay here"
“嘿笨蛋,你是无价之宝,没有人能负担得起你的交易,就留在这里吧”
Hojie_Kadenth
More like "nobody wants to pay you like Gobert got paid."
更像是“没有人愿意像给戈贝尔开合同那样付钱给你。”
NbaAllDAYger
Nah , i dont think anything is gonna happen,KD will still want out due to how Tsai declined Kyrie the Max contract which is the right option in my opinion but that probably broke the trust cause the reason Kd signed a 4 yr deal was because of kyrie,thats what people forget.
So most likely the was an underhanded deal for both to sign the max which KD did instantley, Kyrie still had to wait , now Corona happened and kyrie went crazy so the Nets decline..... and broke KD's trust which is probably as fickle as it gets.....
The reason i say fickle is because i personally think most players dont trust org. no matter how long the org has been loyal to them or vise versa at the end of the day the its gonna be business for them and you as a player are gonna be replaced if possible.
不,我不认为任何事情会发生,KD仍然会想离开,因为蔡老板拒绝了Kyrie的顶薪续约,在我看来这是正确的选择,但这可能打破了信任,因为Kd签了4年的合同是因为Kyrie,这是人们忘记的原因。
所以很可能是一个暗中的交易,让两人都签下最大的合同,KD马上就签了,Kyrie还得等,现在新冠发生了,Kyrie疯了,所以篮网拒绝了.....这打破了KD的信任,这可能就是导致改变.....。
我说改变的原因是,我个人认为大多数球员不信任球队。不管球队对他们忠诚了多久,或者反过来说,最终,它还是生意,如果可能的话,你以一个球员的身份被替代。
cellcell
If he stays I can see Nash being the scapegoat and replaced.
如果他留在篮网,我可以看见纳什会成为替罪羊被辞。
Payutenyodagimas
Flat world said they dont need a coach
So he might as well go
No need for a coach
地平文说他们不需要一个教练
所以他还是走吧
不需要教练
grand_insom
I'm guessing he'll be formally telling the team that he won't be reporting to training camp.
The Nets might feel like they have leverage because KD's rep as a "hooper" has people thinking there's no way he pulls a Ben Simmons or James Harden. I don't buy that for a second. This will drag the trade price down and get something done before September.
我猜他会正式告诉球队,他不会去训练营报到。
篮网可能觉得他们有筹码,因为KD是一个优秀的篮球运动员,人们认为他不可能像本-西蒙斯或詹姆斯-哈登那样。我一点也不相信这一点。这将使交易价格下降,并且会在9月前完成一些事情。
DrOzmitazBuckshank
KD knows exactly what’s going on. The Nets have given an earnest effort to move him, but Simmons’ contract severely limits their options. $5 says KD is there to pull his request (for now) and let them know he’ll be reporting to camp.
KD很清楚发生了什么,篮网竭尽全力送走他,但西蒙斯的合同严重限制了他们的选择。5美元说,KD在那里撤销了他的请求(目前),并让他们知道他将会去训练营报到。
HA_HA_Clits_n_dicks
Feel like the Nets intentionally set the asking price high knowing noone will budge so they can keep
感觉篮网故意把要价定得很高,知道没有人会让步,这样他们就可以留下杜兰特了。
absynthe7
A personnel exec from another club expressed disappointment with the process.
“I think there’s some teams that aren’t very happy that when they talk to Brooklyn it gets in the papers,” he said. “That doesn’t help. I’ve talked with a couple of teams that are not happy with the rumors that creep out of there through all this. It’s not a good way to do business.”
另一家球队的一名人事主管对这一过程表示失望。
他说:"我认为有一些球队不是很高兴,因为当他们与布鲁克林交谈时,消息会被刊登在报纸上。"这没有帮助。我已经和几支球队谈过,他们对通过这一切悄悄传出的谣言感到不高兴。这不是一个做生意的好方法。
欢迎阅读JRs之声!外网Reddit上关于杜兰特与蔡崇信会面的讨论非常激烈!我摘取部分有意思的评论翻译,整理成文章分享出来
网友DescriptionNo5362:[Deveney] BREAKING NEWS from @SteveBHoop ... Source tells @HeavyOnSports that Kevin Durant will meet with @BrooklynNets owner Joe Tsai this week as his request for a trade has reached a stalemate
来自@SteveBHoop 的突发新闻...消息人士告诉@HeavyOnSports,凯文杜兰特本周将与@BrooklynNets 蔡老板会面,因为他的交易请求陷入了僵局。
Dubstep_Caruso
Tsai finally secured a pint of Scarlett Johannson's bathwater
蔡老板终于弄到了一瓶斯嘉丽约翰逊的洗澡水了
diffeqmaster
Does he really think KD can't tell the difference?
他真的认为KD会分辨不出来吗?
Ghoul-Sama
Either kd is gonna stay or he gonna give more teams he would consider
要么kd会留下来,要么他会给更多他会想去的球队。
DrOzmitazBuckshank
The teams that would want him are contenders looking to get over the hump. Those teams are typically short on draft picks and high value young pieces, which is what the Nets want. That puts everyone in a weird spot, and it’s even more compounded by the rookie max restrictions.
He can either go to a team that doesn’t want/need him for their rebuilding assets, or a team that could use him for a bunch of stuff the Nets don’t want. That being the case, nobody can put together a trade package for KD that both sides would find acceptable.
Edit: Add a third group to that: teams in the middle with pieces the Nets would want, but that can’t be traded for because of Simmons.
希望得到他的球队是那些希望克服困难的竞争者。这些球队通常缺少选秀权和高价值的年轻球员,这正是篮网想要的。这使每个人都处于一个奇怪的处境,而且新秀的最大限制使情况让其更加复杂。
他要么去一个不想要/需要他成为重建资产的球队,要么去一个可以用一堆篮网不想要的筹码换取杜兰特的球队。在这种情况下,没有人能够为KD提出一个双方都能接受的交易方案。
另外:拉第三方,处于中间位置的球队,他们有网队想要的东西,但因为西蒙斯的缘故,他们不能被交易。
reb_mccuster
idk where you heard they would take that deal but the Nets asking price is way higher than that. They want multiple All Stars (at least 2) and basically every tradable pick the team getting him has available with no protections. That's a huge ask even for Kevin Durant.
我不知道你在哪听说他们会接受这笔交易,因为篮网的要价远高于此。他们想要多个全明星球员(至少 2 个),而且基本上球队要得到他的话每个可交易选秀权都需要是无保护的条件。在交易杜兰特这件事上,这是一个非常夸张的要求。
Bigbadbuck
If I was tsai I’d say let’s give this team a shot. If it doesn’t work I promise I’ll move you and kyrie by the deadline
如果我是蔡老板的话,我会再给这支球队一个机会。如果还是不行,我保证我会在截止日期前送走杜欧。
reb_mccuster
"hey dumbass you're literally priceless and no one can afford you in a trade, just stay here"
“嘿笨蛋,你是无价之宝,没有人能负担得起你的交易,就留在这里吧”
Hojie_Kadenth
More like "nobody wants to pay you like Gobert got paid."
更像是“没有人愿意像给戈贝尔开合同那样付钱给你。”
NbaAllDAYger
Nah , i dont think anything is gonna happen,KD will still want out due to how Tsai declined Kyrie the Max contract which is the right option in my opinion but that probably broke the trust cause the reason Kd signed a 4 yr deal was because of kyrie,thats what people forget.
So most likely the was an underhanded deal for both to sign the max which KD did instantley, Kyrie still had to wait , now Corona happened and kyrie went crazy so the Nets decline..... and broke KD's trust which is probably as fickle as it gets.....
The reason i say fickle is because i personally think most players dont trust org. no matter how long the org has been loyal to them or vise versa at the end of the day the its gonna be business for them and you as a player are gonna be replaced if possible.
不,我不认为任何事情会发生,KD仍然会想离开,因为蔡老板拒绝了Kyrie的顶薪续约,在我看来这是正确的选择,但这可能打破了信任,因为Kd签了4年的合同是因为Kyrie,这是人们忘记的原因。
所以很可能是一个暗中的交易,让两人都签下最大的合同,KD马上就签了,Kyrie还得等,现在新冠发生了,Kyrie疯了,所以篮网拒绝了.....这打破了KD的信任,这可能就是导致改变.....。
我说改变的原因是,我个人认为大多数球员不信任球队。不管球队对他们忠诚了多久,或者反过来说,最终,它还是生意,如果可能的话,你以一个球员的身份被替代。
cellcell
If he stays I can see Nash being the scapegoat and replaced.
如果他留在篮网,我可以看见纳什会成为替罪羊被辞。
Payutenyodagimas
Flat world said they dont need a coach
So he might as well go
No need for a coach
地平文说他们不需要一个教练
所以他还是走吧
不需要教练
grand_insom
I'm guessing he'll be formally telling the team that he won't be reporting to training camp.
The Nets might feel like they have leverage because KD's rep as a "hooper" has people thinking there's no way he pulls a Ben Simmons or James Harden. I don't buy that for a second. This will drag the trade price down and get something done before September.
我猜他会正式告诉球队,他不会去训练营报到。
篮网可能觉得他们有筹码,因为KD是一个优秀的篮球运动员,人们认为他不可能像本-西蒙斯或詹姆斯-哈登那样。我一点也不相信这一点。这将使交易价格下降,并且会在9月前完成一些事情。
DrOzmitazBuckshank
KD knows exactly what’s going on. The Nets have given an earnest effort to move him, but Simmons’ contract severely limits their options. $5 says KD is there to pull his request (for now) and let them know he’ll be reporting to camp.
KD很清楚发生了什么,篮网竭尽全力送走他,但西蒙斯的合同严重限制了他们的选择。5美元说,KD在那里撤销了他的请求(目前),并让他们知道他将会去训练营报到。
HA_HA_Clits_n_dicks
Feel like the Nets intentionally set the asking price high knowing noone will budge so they can keep
感觉篮网故意把要价定得很高,知道没有人会让步,这样他们就可以留下杜兰特了。
absynthe7
A personnel exec from another club expressed disappointment with the process.
“I think there’s some teams that aren’t very happy that when they talk to Brooklyn it gets in the papers,” he said. “That doesn’t help. I’ve talked with a couple of teams that are not happy with the rumors that creep out of there through all this. It’s not a good way to do business.”
另一家球队的一名人事主管对这一过程表示失望。
他说:"我认为有一些球队不是很高兴,因为当他们与布鲁克林交谈时,消息会被刊登在报纸上。"这没有帮助。我已经和几支球队谈过,他们对通过这一切悄悄传出的谣言感到不高兴。这不是一个做生意的好方法。