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[–]【
巴萨】Dveujw 1544 points 18 hours ago
vini saw shooting tutorials
维尼修斯终于看完射门教程了
[–]【哥伦比亚】atropicalpenguin 805 points 18 hours ago
"You mean I don't shoot with square?!"
“什么?原来射门不是按方块键?!”
[–]lang12 386 points 18 hours ago
Alternative master race
换键大师赛
[–]【皇马】Shreeansh_Gupta 192 points 18 hours ago
RIGHT? i always shoot from square
对吧?我一直都是按方块键射门的
[–]TegeldeRana 266 points 17 hours ago
We were raised by PES
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尤文图斯】CheekyFifaCunt_7 73 points 17 hours ago
I am so shocked, every Madrid game I've watched he was always missing the easiest chances
我都惊了,之前每次我看皇马的比赛,都能瞧见这孩子打丢最简单的机会
[–]【皇马】flae99 418 points 17 hours ago
Liverpool have bigger issues than us if they're the ones that managed to make Vini into prime CR7
要是维尼修斯都能踢得跟巅峰
C罗一样,那利物浦遇到的麻烦比我们的就大多了
[–]【皇马】Allthingsconsidered- 249 points 17 hours ago
Tbf Vini usually performs great but he never finishes his chances
维尼修斯通常表现也还行,除了把握不住机会都挺好的
[–]【皇马】KnownStuff 246 points 17 hours ago
Imagine conceding twice from Vinicius...
试问被维尼修斯梅开二度是一种怎样的体验
[–]【皇马】Arvi833 241 points 17 hours ago
Two from Vini and one from Asensio lol
不仅维尼梅开,阿森西奥也有一球进账,乐死我了
[–]【皇马】Mathema_thicks 246 points 17 hours ago
The commentator I had said at the beginning of the match "they really only have Benzema to fear with both Asensio and Vinicius being in bad forms"
Absolute memes
我这边的解说员在比赛开始时还说“利物浦除了
本泽马以外没什么好怕的,阿森西奥和维尼修斯最近状态低迷”
这嘴怕是开了光的
[–]【巴萨】saintxLA 823 points 17 hours ago
One of the best midfield performances I’ve seen today. Kroos and Modric had the Liverpool midfield in their pocket
今晚这场球是我见过最强的中场表现之一。
克罗斯和莫德
里奇携手把利物浦中场整个揣兜里了
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阿森纳】sayitoutloud1 165 points 17 hours ago
That was absolutely amazing from the trio.
皇马的中场三人组太厉害了。
[–]Ok-Paleontologist275 223 points 17 hours ago
KCM have literally carried most of the matches this season including scoring themselves at times lol. They definitely have a fair shout at one of the greatest football midfields of all times.
Like almost every real Madrid post match thread, it's become a routine to acknowledge KCM greatness now, they play that well
克-卡-莫组合Carry了本赛季绝大部分的比赛,而且时不时还能自己得分。评选足球史上最伟大的中场组合时,得有这三位的大名。
几乎每次皇马的赛后帖,都会成为克-卡-莫组合的日常夸夸帖,他们就是踢得这么棒
[–]【利物浦】EpicRageGuy 697 points 18 hours ago
Liverpool: lost 6 home games in a row, including games against bottom 3.
Commentators today: WELL REAL MADRID ARE GONNA BE FUCKED AT ANFIELD
利物浦近况:主场六连败,其中还包括对积分榜后三名的输球
今晚解说员:次回合皇马到了安菲尔德指定没好果子吃
[–]krispyklene 169 points 17 hours ago
I couldn’t believe my ears.
我都怀疑自己听错了。
[–]Interesting-Mix-5281 2253 points 17 hours ago
today i learned how bad arsenal was on saturday
从今天的比赛我们能明白一件事:上周六的阿森纳到底有多烂
[–]【北伦敦】perpetualdabbler 849 points 17 hours ago*
arteta made us play bad so that liverpool would get a false sense of confidence and lose to madrid which would mean zidane stays next year and increases our chance of getting Odegaard. arteta has done it this time
阿尔特塔故意安排我厂摆烂,以便让利物浦产生虚假的自信心,然后被皇马揍回原形,这样一来
齐达内就能留任到下赛季,从而提高我厂拐走厄德高的几率。这回,谁还说塔子哥江郎才尽?
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切尔西】nathgroom98 178 points 17 hours ago
Even Magnus Carlsen couldn't beat this Norwegian chess
这盘挪威大棋,芒努斯·卡尔森来了也得跪
(译注:卡尔森为90年生人的挪威籍国际象棋大师、世界冠军和世界排名第一)
[–]【阿森纳】n0tdeco 243 points 17 hours ago
5d chess
棋异博士阿特塔
[–]【阿森纳】ReturnOfBenjenRyan 1321 points 17 hours ago
Nowhere is safe
这都能躺枪
[–]【利物浦】RayPissed 255 points 17 hours ago
Just hide in Osama's cave.
去拉登的藏身处吧,那儿不容易躺枪。
(译注:传拉登为阿森纳球迷)
[–]【阿森纳】ReturnOfBenjenRyan 171 points 17 hours ago
Osama was caught so that might not be too reliable
他不就是在那儿躺枪的吗?太不靠谱了
[–]【皇马】kaoswulf 38 points 17 hours ago
People were looking for Osama, and it still took them a long time to find him. Nobody would be looking for an Arsenal fan.
毕竟当时有很多人找他,就这还花了好些年才把他逮到。谁会去找一名阿森纳球迷呢
[–]Aesthetic_Odyssey 710 points 17 hours ago
Riquelme: if I win zidane won’t be coach. I’d hire klopp
Zidane: and I took that personally
里克尔梅:如果我获选皇马主席,我会炒掉齐达内,改请克洛普
齐达内:拿小本本把你记上
(译注:恩里克-里克尔梅,32岁西班牙商人,近期宣布参选皇马主席)
[–]【利物浦】gruka_45 227 points 17 hours ago
Ridiculous comparison to make tbh, Zidane has Vasquez, Klopp has 0 Vasquez
这种比较太荒唐了,人家齐达内有巴斯克斯,克洛普有个毛的巴斯克斯
[–]【海德拉巴FC】HakunaMatata69 224 points 17 hours ago*
Delusional mf*, how can a president nominee talk shit about Zidane lol
这家伙得妄想症了吧,身为皇马主席候选人居然对齐达内大不敬
[–]【皇马】KnownStuff 289 points 17 hours ago
"I promise if I win I will fire the man who won 3 CLs and 2 LA Ligas in 5 years"
“我承诺,如果我上台,我会解雇那个五年里三夺
欧冠两获
西甲的男人”
[–]【皇马】ISCOREDwithISCO 170 points 19 hours ago
Never bet against a Zidane under pressure.
不要跟处于压力之下的齐达内比命硬
[–]【皇马】Mak090 71 points 19 hours ago
ZZ is always on top - always. Never doubt the man.
齐祖一直都是最顶尖的,一直。永远不要怀疑他。
[–]【利物浦】CT_x 476 points 17 hours ago*
We need to talk about Sadio.
edit: every week that passes I'm more and more convinced he has long COVID - thoughts?
咱们得聊聊马内了。
编辑:这赛季一周一周过去,我越来越觉得他是被慢性新冠缠上了——你们怎么说?
[–]【皇马】shivam4321 263 points 17 hours ago
usually I wait till match is over to shit talk player , but I shit -talked about mane around 75th minute in match thread because he was awful
people call TAA but he has had worst drop in form of any Liverpool player ,
通常我都是等比赛结束才喷球员,但今天我在比赛进行到75分钟就去直播帖里喷他了,他踢得什么玩意嘛
人们都在念叨阿诺德,但马内才是利物浦队内竞技状态下滑最严重的球员
[–]【利物浦】CT_x 180 points 17 hours ago
He's been fairly shite for months now. Every week that passes I am wholly convinced he has a case of long COVID because I've never seen a dropoff in a player like this out of seemingly nowhere.
他的糟糕状态已经持续好几个月了。随着时间推移,我完全有理由相信他这是新冠病毒引起的慢性症状,因为我从来没有见过有球员像他这样毫无征兆就大幅滑坡的。
[–]【皇马】ISCOREDwithISCO 94 points 17 hours ago
A certain left winger for Real Madrid comes to mind
你这么一说,让我不禁想起了皇马的某位左边锋啊
[–]【皇家安特卫普】IvonbetonPoE 605 points 18 hours ago
Is it me or did KdB give so many goals on a silver platter?? Crazy how City struggled to score.
德布劳内这场比赛起码做了一炉子的饼吧??曼城进球居然这么困难,实在有够疯狂的
[–]DDAisADD 230 points 18 hours ago
His passing is too damn good.
他的传球真他喵的绝。
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曼联】rhythmpatel 56 points 18 hours ago
Yup.
Foden missed a couple of sitters.
Was a good game to watch overall.
确实各种做饼。
福登吐了好几张呢。
总体而言,不失为一场精彩的比赛。
[–]jackthe-stripper 267 points 17 hours ago
Welcome to city this year.
Honestly KDB could be on 40 assists if our attackers could put it away. We’ve been so dominant in the league that people who don’t watch us regularly have forgotten how much we need a striker.
今年才看曼城的吗。
说真的,若不是我们的锋线浪费机会的话,丁丁早就刷出40个助攻了。我们在
英超的领先优势太大,那些不看我们比赛的人已经忘了我们有多么渴望一名靠谱的中锋。
[–]tbbt11 125 points 17 hours ago
Best midfielder on the planet. When he’s properly on, he’s like a force of nature, relentlessly driving the whole team on. He doesn’t back down from challenges and it lifts the team. What a player
丁丁就是地表最强中场球员。只要他状态在线,他就像自然之力一样,源源不断地驱动整支球队前进。他从不畏难拒险,正是这样的品质支撑着球队。多棒的球员啊
[–]【曼城】jethroo23 129 points 17 hours ago
Now imagine Haaland on the receiving end of that.
想象一下锋线上坐等吃饼的是哈兰德。
[–]【多特蒙德】Xian244 192 points 17 hours ago
Don’t think Kevin is joining us.
德布劳内应该不会来大黄蜂的。
[–]【利物浦】slaughtered_gates 146 points 17 hours ago
I don't want to. Thanks
这画面我可不想看。敬谢不敏
[–]【巴萨】Thugging_inPublic 441 points 17 hours ago
Wow... being a Dortmund fan must not be easy
哇噢……做多特蒙德的球迷一定很不容易吧
[–]【多特蒙德】biggieBpimpin 305 points 17 hours ago
It’s been a long year my friend. A very long year.
这是漫长的一年朋友。非常漫长的一年。
[–]【多特蒙德】Lam0rak 73 points 17 hours ago
It's only been one year? Feels like 2
只过了一年?感觉都过了两年了
[–]【多特蒙德】biggieBpimpin 48 points 17 hours ago
Our form is wildly unpredictable, manager got the sack, a lot of guys underperforming, so many late game goals conceded with shambolic defending. It’s a rollercoaster of emotion but man the highs feel so high.
A break will be nice, but once we hit the transfer window I’ll be absolutely buzzing for the pre season friendlies to kick off next season. Hopefully we can snatch the cup and have a strong finish to close this season out.
我们的状态完全不可捉摸,主帅中途下课,众多球员表现不佳,防守拉胯导致比赛尾声阶段过多失球。这就是一列情感上的过山车,但身在高处时真的嗨翻天。
能够稍作休整当然不错,但转会窗口一旦开启,我就恨不得赶紧来点季前友谊赛拉开新赛季的大幕。希望我们能捧个杯,能给这个赛季收个豹尾。
[–]【多特蒙德】SkoCubs01 74 points 17 hours ago
I’m tired
我累了
[–]【多特蒙德】fueledbywhiskey 743 points 17 hours ago
I feel like we got screwed over by the Ederson situation but overall I'm satisfied with the result. I would have loved another away goal but alas, looking forward to the second leg and maybe we can put in another good performance.
我觉得埃德森那次出击我们吃了大亏,但总体来说我还是满意这个结果的。能再多一个客场进球当然更好,不过嘛,还是展望次回合吧,说不定我们会再一次踢出好的表现。
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拜仁】sc2isalivegaem 248 points 17 hours ago
Away goal is huge
有客场进球已经赚了
[–]【曼联】DontYouWantMeBebe 82 points 17 hours ago
Yeah this isn't the worst result, either side could kick on and win this
对啊,这不是最坏的结果,两队在次回合都还有晋级的希望
[–]【AC米兰】LegalSeagal 514 points 17 hours ago
man idk how you are so casual about it, im not even a dortmund fan and im fuming, you guys got fucking robbed
哥们,我不知道你为啥还能这么看得开,我都不是多特蒙德球迷还气得火冒三丈呢,你们今天根本就是被打劫了啊
[–]Pack1du 127 points 17 hours ago
The thing is that we didn't expect much coming into today, dortmund played better than expected and we have a decent score going into the second leg
重点是,我们本来也没期待今天能打出个什么花样来,多特蒙德今天的发挥已经超出预期了,而且也拿到了相对不错的比分可以带到第二回合再战。
[–]tbbt11 324 points 17 hours ago
Foden
Bellingham
Christ England has some fucking talent
福登
贝林厄姆
英格兰的天才还真不少
[–]bobbylafrentz 89 points 17 hours ago*
Jude's fucking 17. Jaysus he's so good
贝林厄姆才17岁。他踢得太棒了。
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南安普顿】TheRalphExpress 245 points 17 hours ago
More than one talking head in the media ought to apologize to Pep for all the chat about him “stifling Foden’s career” that was happening on a regular basis couple years ago
倒退些年,媒体上经常都有人在指责
瓜迪奥拉“扼杀了福登的职业生涯”,现在这帮人应该向瓜帅道歉才对。
[–]velsor 178 points 17 hours ago
They were actually upset that a 19 year old wasn't a starter for one of the best ever PL teams.
一名19岁的年轻人在英超史上最强球队之一打不上主力,这帮人还真的因此打抱不平呢
[–]【多特蒙德】-Jfree- 54 points 17 hours ago
and the 3rd arguably better talent was even missing today
而第3位也许更加出色的大英天才球员,今天还缺席了比赛(指桑乔)
[–]【曼城】Mr-Mertle 124 points 17 hours ago
Agreed, Scott Carson will get his chance though.
是啊,斯科特-卡森(曼城35岁的替补门将)总会得到出场机会的。
[–]【曼联】1337ified 382 points 17 hours ago
Absolutely shambolic refereeing here. Dortmund robbed of a goal.
This happens too often in too many games - these are some terribly trained refs. the drop off has been immense
这判罚就离谱。多特蒙德被活生生吃了一个球。
这种判罚失误在太多比赛里频繁上演——有些裁判的上岗证纯属混的吧。执法水平下滑太严重了
[–]【曼联】rhythmpatel 82 points 17 hours ago*
Why can’t VAR be used in cases like these even after the whistle has been blown?
就算哨响在先,为什么这种情况下VAR就不能介入了呢?
[–]【利物浦】-MCMXCIX- 40 points 17 hours ago
What can VAR do? Give Dortmund a drop ball? The referee blowing his whistle so early meant VAR couldn't do anything.
VAR能做什么?判给多特蒙德一次掷球重开?主裁判过早鸣哨导致了VAR爱莫能助
[–]curlyjoe696 63 points 17 hours ago
Because you can't guarantee he would have scored.
Yes it sounds stupid but if you went on YouTube you'd probably find 100s of misses worse without much effort.
That's why it's an error to blow so early with VAR in play, just let it go and come back and watch it again if necessary.
因为你无法保证福登一定能打进那球。
是的,听起来是很蠢,但你上油管能随随便便找到100个比这球机会还好的空门不进视频。
所以说当配备有VAR时,过早鸣哨就是个错误,完全应该让比赛继续,有需要的时候回头再确认也不迟。
REPLAY:36' 贝林厄姆抢断埃德森被吹犯规
[–]foshiiy 3702 points 19 hours ago
Let Bellingham score and then blow the whistle. Jesus
放贝林厄姆射门,然后又吹哨。天呐
[–]DLifts777 1833 points 18 hours ago
Just shows how arrogant this douche referee is
这二逼裁判有多么傲慢可见一斑
[–]_awake 778 points 18 hours ago
In my opinion the guy was nervous as hell since the moment the match started. Bad fit for a game like this.
在我看来,这裁判自打比赛开场就紧张得要死。他压根就不适合执法这种级别的赛事
[–]Kicker4343 414 points 18 hours ago
Pretty sure he has refereed 2 world cups this shouldn’t be anything new for him
他已经执法过两届世界杯了,欧冠比赛对他来说应该是轻车熟路才对啊
[–]holemanm 208 points 16 hours ago
Refereeing in World Cup games not a guarantee of quality.
(一段执法集锦)
执法过世界杯不代表你的执法水平就有多高
[–]sIurrpp 235 points 16 hours ago
That’s not the point, he should be used to refereeing under huge pressure. The World Cup is much bigger than the ucl
重点不在这,他应该习惯于在压力山大的情况下执法比赛。世界杯的压力可比欧冠大多了吧
[–]【拜仁】aure__entuluva 473 points 18 hours ago
I just don't get why the there are rules saying VAR can't be used here. If the VAR officials feel something needs to be reviewed, it should be reviewed ffs. Anyone who looks at this more than once allows the goal.
我就完全没明白为什么要规定VAR不适用于这种情况。如果VAR裁判认为有需要回看的地方,那就应该回看。只要再看一遍这球的慢镜头,谁都能判断出进球有效。
[–]igowhereiwantyeye 201 points 18 hours ago
Shocking decision to whistle that early in the first place. There is no explanation
根源在于裁判那么早就鸣哨的惊人决断。没啥可解释的
[–]【切尔西】geez_james24 5880 points 18 hours ago
Why blow the whistle if VAR can check the goal later?
在有VAR可以稍后确认进球是否有效的情况下,你吹哨干啥?
[–]【曼联】JaboiSkkrt 3713 points 18 hours ago
Well the guy is obviously and idiot has had 3 really bad calls already.
这个嘛,他之前就已经有过3次辣眼的判罚了,显而易见他就是个傻缺。
[–]【切尔西】EdEnsHAzArD 2254 points 18 hours ago
It should be possible to sub a ref at half-time
应该有一项中场休息时更换主裁的制度才对
[–]【曼联】LUHG_HANI 704 points 17 hours ago
It is. They could just make him feel ill and have the 4th official ref the game. Been done before.
不是不行。他们可以让他感到不舒服,然后换第四官员执法比赛。以前有过这事。
[–]【切尔西】EdEnsHAzArD 640 points 17 hours ago
'Make him feel ill' sounds so sinister hahah
“让他感到不舒服”好家伙,缺了大德了哈哈哈
[–]【曼联】PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_ 533 points 16 hours ago
The Putin approach
普京行为
[–]Brucebanner678 497 points 17 hours ago
They did mention it on BT that the he refs in the Romanian league where they don’t have VAR. So he wouldn’t have had as much experience with it. That is just appalling for this to be happening at this level in the champions league.
Also how was he giving high foot for a knee level foot and then didn’t retract the yellow after it was corrected?
BT体育提到这位主裁是在
罗马尼亚联赛执法,那里没有VAR。所以他大概缺乏这方面的经验。在欧冠级别的赛事里出现这种事还真是让人惊掉下巴。
还有,他把与膝盖齐平的抬脚判定为抬脚过高,在被纠正之后为啥不撤回给贝林厄姆的黄牌?
[–]danmac0817 233 points 15 hours ago
This explains the complete lack of clarity with overturning the penalty call. He made no gestures, obviously not properly trained on it. Unacceptable for such a prestigious competition.
这说明了在推翻判罚决定这件事上完全缺乏透明度。他连个手势都没做,裁判培训班白上了。这样的执法水平对于如此严肃的赛事来说是不可接受的。
[–]【多特蒙德】Tarantantara 1076 points 18 hours ago
1. ref is just incredibly bad at his job and can't adjust his refereeing in accordance to the VAR technology
2. ref is so full of himself and egoistic, that in his mind he could've never been wrong there and thus blew the whistle immediatly
3. match fixing
there are no other explanations, and one is worse than the other
1. 裁判的水平从南极low穿到香港,而且也无法通过VAR技术来调整他的判罚
2. 裁判过于自大自负,他压根就没怀疑过自己可能犯错,立马就鸣哨了
3. 比赛被操纵了
除了上述三种可能,没有其他解释了,而且这三种可能一种比一种糟糕
[–]【阿森纳】patchh93 242 points 17 hours ago
Daylight robbery, so sorry.
光天化日之下的抢劫,真为你们遗憾。
[–]【曼城】Jamiedawkins 280 points 17 hours ago
Feel for you guys tonight. I don't want to win like that, you guys should definitely have drawn at a minimum
为你们感到遗憾。我也不希望通过这种方式获胜,你们最起码应该拿到一场平局才是。
[–]【堪萨斯城竞技】108241 5355 points 18 hours ago
So Bellingham gets a yellow card for getting kicked by the last man?
所以贝林厄姆因为被对方最后一人踢中而吃到一张黄牌?
[–]【阿森纳】Khudobin 1316 points 18 hours ago
yes
没错
[–]【多特蒙德】TinyDickHugeUsername 1169 points 18 hours ago
And a goal taken away for good measure.
而且还被吹掉了一个进球
[–]ArtDoesNotComeEasy 464 points 18 hours ago
Mind-boggling really
真让人难以置信
[–]SeriousPuppet 134 points 17 hours ago
Can someone explain what the call was, and what it should have been?
It seems to me to not be anyone's fault. Ederson was trying to play the ball. Bellingham gets to it first so def should not be a foul on Bellingham. I didn't see the game - sounds like it was called a foul on Bellingham?
I would say play on. If Bellingham retains possession then it's advantage and play on.
谁来解释一下这判罚到底什么情况,还有实际情况又是如何?
在我看来双方都没什么过错。埃德森是想把球踢出去。贝林厄姆先触到皮球,所以肯定不该是他犯规。我没看比赛——听起来像是最后吹了贝林厄姆犯规?
要我说就该让比赛继续。如果贝林厄姆拿到了球权,那他就有利用好这次得分机会的权利。
[–]【苏格兰】Mellon__Collie 517 points 17 hours ago
The ref called a foul by Bellingham on Ederson which is the one thing it could never be. Its a foul by Ederson, doesn’t matter if hes going for the ball or not. Ref whistled before Bellingham put it into the net so VAR can't decide on awarding a goal. At that point though VAR should pick up that Ederson fouled Bellingham instead and so should have been sent off for DOGSO.
So in reality ref has made 2 glaringly bad decisions in a row.
主裁判吹了贝林厄姆对埃德森犯规,这根本就是没影的事。其实应该是埃德森犯规,他是不是冲球去的都不重要。贝林厄姆将球打进之前主裁判就鸣哨了,所以VAR无法介入判定进球是否有效。在这种情况下,VAR本该去核查埃德森对贝林厄姆的犯规,那样的话埃德森就该因为阻挡绝佳得分机会而被罚下。
[–]【冠军纪录保持者】DemetriusXVII 8693 points 19 hours ago2
I'd be fuming if I was Dortmund fan. Hell I'm not a Dortmund fan and I'm fuming. Disgraceful call.
我要是多特蒙德球迷,我肯定气炸了。妈蛋,我不是多特蒙德球迷我也气炸了。可耻的判罚。
[–]【多特蒙德】antadani 3707 points 18 hours ago33
Confirmed. Am fuming
您说对了。正在气头上呢
[–]【多特蒙德】The_Bread_Is_Wet 2181 points 18 hours ago*11115& 10 more
Half hour later and im still mad as fuck
Edit: whoever gave me wholesome award, you’ve got a sick sense of humor
半小时过去了,我的七窍依然浓烟滚滚
编辑:给我打赏的家伙们,你们的幽默感有点病态啊
[–]【多特蒙德】Weed_Scout420 895 points 18 hours ago3
Forty minutes later and I'm still mad as fuck as well.
四十分钟过去了,我也依旧七窍生烟。
[–]Economy-Ad-6278 278 points 18 hours ago
i'am Chelsea fan, but i'am also mad af. Used to sh1t refering from Premier League, week in and week out.
我是车迷,我也非常气愤。英超的判罚一样糟,每周都要受煎熬。
[–]tripsafe 62 points 18 hours ago
It's been 10 mins pls give update
又过去十分钟了,感觉好点没?
[–]【多特蒙德】eed_Scout420 190 points 18 hours ago
Still mad, but not as fuck.
还是很气,但是没冒烟了。
[–]【沙尔克04】moneybooy 386 points 18 hours ago
I'm a Schalke fan and even i can say they got robbed
沙矿球迷在此,连我也要说一声这球纯属抢劫
[–]【曼城】g209 260 points 18 hours ago
City fan here and they got robbed
曼城球迷发来慰问电,这球纯属抢劫
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