[传声筒][日刊20.09.06]别了！梅西与曼城一周半的姻缘！

[–]【巴萨】Vlad200511180 598 points 18 hours ago 

I actually wanna cry after reading this...

读完这篇采访我眼眶都湿了…

[–]【皇马】Su_Din 716 points 18 hours ago* 

This is one of the most well-rounded interview that I’ve read. As expected after the build-up until this point. I can see Barça fans tear a cry after reading this. Man is really hurt after everything that’s happened. The state of the club aside, the way his promise was broken, the thought of going against your club in a legal battle, the family problems etc, he tackles everything here.

I remember reading the former President claiming Messi is not a true Culé, Presidential candidates voicing their support for Barto to hold the fort. He even addresses money issues, that must’ve been gut wrenching.

The family problems really resonated with me. For someone who changed schools every two years or so, introducing yourself to new faces was hard. I can’t even fathom how devastated his wife and kids were after hearing his decision. After spending your entire life in the city, forming well knitted bonds with people, and all of a sudden you’ve got to pack your bags to Manchester.

这是我读过最全面的采访之一。事件发酵至今，这篇采访倒也符合预期。巴萨球迷读到这篇采访时眼泪决堤再正常不过了。所以这一切发生之后，梅西确实很受伤。除了俱乐部的官方声明以外，落空的承诺、与俱乐部对簿公堂的思绪、以及家庭问题等等，他不得不面对和承受这些压力直至今天。

我之前看到巴萨前主席（加斯帕特）在媒体上炮轰梅西不是真正的巴萨人，主席候选人也纷纷出来发声支持巴托梅乌坚守门户。梅西在这篇采访中甚至要专门为钱的问题表态，想必他一定心如刀绞。

家庭问题真的让我特别有共鸣。你想想，差不多每两年就要换个学校、去结识新面孔是一件多么困难的事情啊。我都没法想象当他之前决定离开时他太太和孩子会是多么崩溃。你这一辈子几乎都在这座城市生活，与这里的人们建立了紧密的羁绊，结果忽然之间，你就得收拾行囊远走曼乡。

[–]【英格兰】FourFreyPies 556 points 17 hours ago 

Barcelona come out from this looking absolutely pathetic, to me. Can't have any respect for a club like this.

依我看，就这篇采访反应的内容而言，巴萨真是够可悲的。从来没有这么瞧不起一家俱乐部。

[–]playmastergeneral 325 points 17 hours ago 

This has certainly shut up the people who thought messi was in the wrong. This is all on Barcelona.

这篇采访可以让那些认为错在梅西的人闭嘴了。所有的锅，巴萨背好吧。

[–]tabuuuuu 130 points 16 hours ago 

If clubs do this to players like Messi, imagine what could have happened in dealings with "lesser" players. This is why I don't really jump on the snake bandwagon whenever a player leaves. We really don't know what happens behind the scenes. It could be family issues or anything else.

如果俱乐部对待梅西这样的球员尚且如此，不敢想象那些“非巨星”球员离开时遭受过怎样的待遇。这就是为什么在一名球员离队时我不会无脑站俱乐部的原因。我们压根就无从得知幕后隐情。也许是因为家庭因素或者其他原因呢。

[–]gnorrn 89 points 15 hours ago 

   If clubs do this to players like Messi, imagine what could have happened in dealings with "lesser" players.

Arthur is a good example. He was treated like absolute shit. Yes, I know his own behaviour wasn't perfect either, but the board still treated him disgracefully.

   如果俱乐部对待梅西这样的球员尚且如此，不敢想象那些“非巨星”球员离开时遭受过怎样的待遇。

阿图尔就是个例子。俱乐部对他很不厚道。当然，我知道他自己的行为也不咋地，但是董事会对待他的方式还是不够体面。

[–]【利兹联】dirgetka 3420 points 18 hours ago 

All season:

"Barto, I want to leave."

"Not now Leo, we will discuss it later. You can decide at the end of the season whether or not you leave."

End of the season:

"Barto, I want to leave."

"You're not allowed. See me in court you cunt"

赛季中：

“巴托，我想离队。”

“现在不行莱奥，我们晚点再谈。到了赛季末，你可以决定是走是留。”

赛季末：

“巴托，我想离队。”

“你想得美。咱们法庭见吧贱人。”

[–]【国际米兰】jonbristow 973 points 18 hours ago 

So he'll leave for free next year?

They should've negotiated a deal this year. City would've gladly spent 100m for him

这么说，他明年就可以自由转会咯？

他们应该是今年先谈好了条件。曼城只掏1亿就能用上梅西的话肯定乐得合不拢嘴。

[–]【切尔西】Bmmaximus 930 points 18 hours ago 

For Barto this seems more like a PR battle and saving his own reputation than gaining 100m and actually thinking ahead of one year. There is very little chance of them winning anything this year with a new coach and a disrupted dressing room. All they will end up with is paying Messi an obscene amount, losing him for free, and destroying their reputation for future world class signings.

对巴托梅乌来说，比起真金白银一亿元和高瞻远瞩多一年，眼下更像是一场公关战和个人声誉抢救战。科曼新帅上任、更衣室暗流涌动，今年的巴萨很难有机会赢得什么荣誉。他们最终只能付给梅西一大笔钱，任由他免费离开，并且在今后的世界级球员转会市场上口碑尽毁。

[–]【巴萨】tskee2 366 points 17 hours ago 

Seems like exactly what Messi was talking about when he said there is no project. Barto isn’t thinking about even a year in advance, he only cares about the PR right now.

这不就是梅西在采访中说的“缺乏计划”吗。巴托梅乌根本就没做好哪怕最近一年的考量，他在乎的只有当前的公共关系。

[–]【曼城】blueradium 1783 points 18 hours ago 

Lionel Messi: "The truth is that there's been no project [at Barcelona] and nothing in a while - they juggle and they're plugging holes as things go by. As I said before, I always thought about the well-being of my family and the club."

梅西：“真相就是，（巴萨）一直都缺乏计划，很长一段时间都没有——他们总是在糊弄，总是缝缝补补又一年。就像我之前讲过的，我一直希望我的家庭和俱乐部都能得到最好的待遇。”

[–]【利物浦】ciakmoi 921 points 18 hours ago 

That's a really good way to sum up how Barca's been building their team the past few years and I'm surprised Messi isn't afraid to say it.

这真是对巴萨数年来建队状况的最佳总结了，梅西这么直抒胸臆我还蛮惊讶的。

[–]【丹麦】Pek-Man 407 points 16 hours ago 

   I'm surprised Messi isn't afraid to say it.

Messi has been quite blunt as he's been getting older. The Rome, Anfield, and Lisbon games clearly broke his belief in Bartomeu actually giving two shits about the future of this club. I'm so happy he said it. It needs to be heard, especially by the older socis in the city, that stood by Bartomeu in last election. He won that because too many people were blinded by the Triplete, but in reality Bartomeu was just an extension of Sandro Rosell. Both have done terrible, terrible damage to this club. Sure, we've kept winning titles but that's certainly not because of their decisionmaking. We've been carried mainly by Messi, Piqué and ter Stegen (and until two years ago, also Suárez and Busquets).

   梅西这么直抒胸臆我还蛮惊讶的。

随着年龄的增长，梅西已经变得很直率了。对罗马、利物浦和拜仁的比赛很显然摧毁了他对于巴托梅乌的信任，这位主席根本就不在乎俱乐部的未来。他能这么直说我很高兴。这样的意见应该被人知晓，尤其是那些在上次主席选举中投票给巴托梅乌的老会员。他的当选很大程度上是因为太多人被三冠王所蒙蔽，但实际上巴托梅乌只是罗塞尔第二罢了。这两任主席都给俱乐部造成了极大的损害。当然，我们还是有在赢得冠军，但那肯定与他们的决策无关。我们基本上都是由梅西、皮克与特尔施特根在扛着球队前行（两年前的话还包括苏亚雷斯和布斯克茨）。

[–]【拜仁】GOATJames_23-6 8141 points 18 hours ago 

How have goal pulled this off

够力足球是怎么拿到这则独家专访的？

[–]【利物浦】other_batman 6708 points 18 hours ago 

It looks like they just showed up at his house and he thought fuck it why not

大概就是够力足球的人直接找上门去，然后梅西心想干脆择日不如撞日吧

[–]【荷兰】Magnetronaap 3278 points 18 hours ago 

Probably went something like

"Hi Lionel we were in the area and figured we'd ring your doorbell, wanna give us the biggest fucking scoop in football of the past 20ish years?"

"Sure, come in."

事情可能是这么展开的

“嗨梅老板，我们恰好就在附近，恰好摸了一下你家门铃，你会不会恰好也想给我们一个20年以来足球界最劲爆独家采访的机会？”

“行啊，换鞋套吧。”

[–]【巴萨】kuroinferuno 1286 points 17 hours ago 

How Goal managed to get this scoop deserves an article for itself. Absolute madness.

够力足球怎么拿到独家采访这事都够单独写篇报道了。真是疯狂。

[–]【切尔西】superfrankie189 246 points 18 hours ago 

he looks like he was having a bbq party and they interrupted him

梅西看起来像是正在后院办烧烤派对，结果这帮人半路闯进来了。

[–]The__Chosen__1 1041 points 18 hours ago 

It's 2020.

毕竟2020年。

[–]akpommed 1503 points 18 hours ago 

Goal straight from tier 10 to tier 1.5 today

够力足球今天从第10级媒体直升第1.5级媒体

[–]【巴萨】The_Dumblebee 1272 points 18 hours ago 

1.5? This is 0. Actual masterclass

1.5？这根本就是传说中的第0级媒体大神好吗

[–]【马竞】AlekRivard 573 points 18 hours ago 

Yeah, this is right out of the man's mouth lol

对啊，这可是嘴对嘴直采，还有谁

[–]【曼城】Eskomo 7222 points 18 hours ago 

RIP Messi to City, August 25, 2020 - September 4, 2020.

安息吧，“梅西赴曼城”，2020年8月25日-2020年9月4日。

[–]【切尔西】Nero1988420 1899 points 18 hours ago 

The "Welcome to Manchester City" video, that was supposed to be uploaded to Youtube, will not see the light of day this year.

那个本该上传到油管的“曼城欢迎你”视频，今年之内怕是见不着了。

[–]【曼城】KevinDeBrownie 978 points 18 hours ago 

Was a good few days

短暂而甜蜜

[–]【巴萨】LosTerminators 550 points 18 hours ago 

You'll probably get him for free next year. I'm glad he's staying, but only due to the fact his final match for the club is not the disaster against Bayern.

明年你们应该就能免费带走他了。他能留下我很欣慰，但也只是因为他的巴萨生涯谢幕战不会是对拜仁那场惨案罢了。

[–]SnapeWasEvil 629 points 18 hours ago 

Inb4 last match is a disasterclass 7-0 loss to Eibar

冒死说一句，最后一战搞不好是7-0被埃瓦尔血洗。

[–]【皇马】TacoInManBun 1127 points 18 hours ago 

Idk if as a madridista im happy or not

我不知道作为一名皇马人我是否应该感到高兴

[–]【皇马】tweazz 1501 points 18 hours ago 

Call Florentino, tell him to evacuate agent Bartomeu immediately. They might be onto him.

给弗洛伦蒂诺打电话，告诉他让巴托梅乌特工立刻撤离。巴萨那边估计盯上他了。

[–]【霍尔斯泰因基尔】102330 453 points 18 hours ago 

Evacuate the city. Engage all defenses. And get this man a shield.

疏散全城。启动防御。给这个男人一面盾牌。

（译注：此为《复仇者联盟3》中黑豹的台词。）

[–]【切尔西】Lykxn 161 points 23 hours ago 

RIP

愿“黑豹”安息

[–]【巴萨】mjitylandv2 374 points 18 hours ago 

You should be, we're going to be fucked even harder when he leaves next season

你应该高兴，再过一个赛季当梅西离开之后，我们只会被蹂躏得更惨。

[–]summersoulxdd 485 points 18 hours ago 

So instead of selling him for over 100m Barto decided that it would be better if they pay him 100m in wages this year only to lose him next year for nothing. And the fact that Barca gonna have a very slim chance for La Liga and UCL? Oh boy

所以，与其以1亿以上的价格卖掉梅西，巴托梅乌觉得不如再给他开一年1亿元的薪水，以便在明年免费放他离队。而且事实上巴萨在新赛季西甲和欧冠的前景都不太乐观？这操作绝了

[–]【巴萨】mjitylandv2 260 points 18 hours ago 

Barto doesn't give a fuck about the club, hopefully the socis get the required number of signatures to get him out

巴托梅乌根本不管俱乐部的死活，希望俱乐部会员能达到足够的动议票数把他罢免掉。

[–]【莱斯特城】AKCJ_ 659 points 18 hours ago 

Surely Bartomeu has no choice but to resign. His position must be completely untenable.

巴托梅乌这下肯定走投无路，只能辞职了。他的立场如今完全站不住脚。

[–]【曼城】Jagacin 347 points 18 hours ago 

He won't step down. The only way he forfeits his position as president is if he's literally dragged out of the Nou Camp.

他不会退位的。要让他从主席位置上下来只有一个办法，那就是把他从诺坎普直接拖出去。

[–]s2added 186 points 17 hours ago 

He's going to hang onto his power long enough to balance the books so he doesn't end up going to prison after his presidency.

This is like watching Emperor Palpatine win at the end of Return of the Jedi.

他会尽可能地延长自己的在位时间，方便平衡账目，这样他才不会在卸任后去吃牢饭。

这就像是在看帕尔帕廷皇帝在《星球大战：绝地归来》里笑到最后一样。

[–]【沙尔克04】lang12 111 points 18 hours ago 

Lads, stop the Stuttgart fundraiser

兄弟们，谁去通知一下那个斯图加特的众筹哥可以停手了

[–]【马竞】Hol_Win 111 points 17 hours ago 

No, accelerate the Stuttgart fundraiser. It's now a hostage rescue fund.

不，让他加快众筹。现在这是一项人质解救基金了。

（译注：梅西此前宣布离队后，一名斯图加特球迷在网上发起9亿欧元目标的众筹项目，希望为斯图加特筹集到签下梅西的资金。截至本期传声筒发稿前，该项目已筹集到近7000欧。）

[–]【热刺】the_suspicious_crab 724 points 18 hours ago 

Thanks, I hate it

感谢你留队，我讨厌你的决定（译注：指无法在英超看到梅西）

[–]【利兹联】imadethisforonething 386 points 18 hours ago 

Would have loved to see Messi play on a cold winter night in Leeds.

Shame.

本来可以满心欢喜看梅西在利兹的凛冬寒夜里踢球的。

太遗憾了。

[–]【狼队】Jayyburdd 112 points 18 hours ago 

Have to wait till next season I guess. Stoke isn't going anywhere. :(

我估计要再等一个赛季才有机会了。反正斯托克城又不会跑。 :(

[–]【阿森纳】Kayr- 1027 points 18 hours ago 

The atmosphere at Barca next season is going to be toxic as fuck lmao, they should of just let him go for 100m

下赛季巴塞罗那的队内气氛铁定有毒，他们就该干脆拿1亿然后放人的。

[–]【皇马】PonchoHung 89 points 17 hours ago 

How discouraging must it be for the young players to know that the club captain is only there because he's being forced to? That can't be good for the dressing room.

知道球队队长只是被迫留队，那些年轻球员会有多丧气啊？这么下去更衣室好不了。

[–]【皇马】Cruz AzulChaco10CAZ 732 points 18 hours ago 

Bale has found a new golfing buddy

贝尔找到新的高尔夫球搭档了

[–]wystrs1 1352 points 18 hours ago 

He's basically a hostage

他现在基本上就是一名人质

[–]DisposableMAYBE 731 points 18 hours ago* 

Yes. The only reason he isn't leaving is coz of the legal battle which will be taxing for both him and Barca and fans.

He is definitely gonna leave unless next year Barto resigns, Xavi comes and then begs him to stay by buying some better players

He is wasting one more year

是的。他选择留下的唯一原因就是原本可能引起的官司对梅西本人、巴萨俱乐部和球迷来说都太繁重了。

他肯定还是会走的，除非明年巴托梅乌辞职，哈维回归然后招兵买马求他留下。

他又要再蹉跎一年了。

[–]【多特蒙德】LeonTablet 191 points 18 hours ago 

Maybe the vote of no confidence that’s due on sep 17 will kick him out earlier.

搞不好9月17号的不信任投票就能提早把巴托梅乌搞下台。

[–]【曼城】Jagacin 61 points 18 hours ago 

I feel like Messi would leave if Barto gets voted out before the end of the transfer window. But I don't see Barto getting voted out, unfortunately.

如果巴托梅乌在转会期结束前被投下台的话，我觉得梅西可能会离队。但是很不幸，我不看好巴托梅乌会被投下台。

[–]【曼城】gd-28 94 points 17 hours ago 

Barto won't get voted out. I have full confidence in our Socis to make the wrong decision. They already did it a couple times in the last few years if I remember right.

投票是OUT不了巴托梅乌的。我对我们的俱乐部会员做出错误决定这件事有百分百的信心。没记错的话，过去几年里他们干出这种事已经不是一次两次了。

[–]The_Everclearest 295 points 18 hours ago 

I'm just happy that his last game in a Barca shirt won't be 8-2 v Bayern. He deserves a proper send-off as a club legend.

我很开心，他身披巴萨战袍的最后一场比赛总算不是8-2负拜仁那场了。作为俱乐部传奇，他配得上更体面的告别。

[–]【弗拉门戈】panteraepantico 194 points 18 hours ago 

Scenes when his farewell next year is an even worse thrashing

试想一下，要是明年的告别演出更惨烈咋办

[–]【热刺】Mick4Audi 52 points 18 hours ago 

Assuming Barca even make it that far in the CL

姑且先假设巴萨明年在欧冠还能走那么远吧

[–]_0ZYMANDIAZ_ 239 points 18 hours ago 

4-0 loss to Real Madrid at the Nou Camp with a Coutinho hatrick. Yes, Coutinho was loaned to Real Madrid on Deadline Day.

在诺坎普被皇马打个4-0，库蒂尼奥帽子戏法。没错，库蒂尼奥在转会截止日压哨租借皇马。

[–]【AC米兰】bumpy4skin 88 points 18 hours ago 

So his family started crying at the thought of living in Manchester - can't blame them.

他的家人一想到要搬到曼彻斯特住，眼泪就掉下去——这确实怪不得他们。

[–]【纽约城】Camus____ 43 points 18 hours ago 

Anyone know where I can sell this unworn Man City jersey?

谁能告诉我上哪儿能把这件全新未拆封的曼城球衣卖掉吗？