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引用 @糊塗的mori小五郎 发表的:
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当被问到谁是最强现役车手时,马克斯-维斯塔潘答道:“阿隆索。” 而他今年的队友,另一位F1新同学,西班牙人小塞恩斯也表示了赞同:“费尔南多啊,必须的。” https://bbs.hupu.com/11724910.html
当被问到谁是最强现役车手时,马克斯-维斯塔潘答道:“阿隆索。”

而他今年的队友,另一位F1新同学,西班牙人小塞恩斯也表示了赞同:“费尔南多啊,必须的。”
https://bbs.hupu.com/11724910.html
头哥的确超强,他不能跑在前面,老是看一群比他蹩脚的车手争来争去真没意思。
头哥的确超强,他不能跑在前面,老是看一群比他蹩脚的车手争来争去真没意思。
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还好2017赛季即将结束
还好2017赛季即将结束
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是指13年还是14年,这两年mc是什么衰样子?现在雷诺不是原厂车队吗,为啥又用雷诺引擎?
是指13年还是14年,这两年mc是什么衰样子?现在雷诺不是原厂车队吗,为啥又用雷诺引擎?
我说的是这个周期的头一年2014年。

为什么用雷诺其实也挺无奈的---法拉利因为间谍门的事情直接剔除;本田实在是扶不起;奔驰可以谈得下来,但肯定没有好得支持;雷诺既可以谈得下来又可以有好的支持,麦克拉伦用底盘技术和雷诺深度合作。

这两年麦克拉伦真不衰,要是麦克拉伦衰的话,奔驰早提供引擎了。
我说的是这个周期的头一年2014年。

为什么用雷诺其实也挺无奈的---法拉利因为间谍门的事情直接剔除;本田实在是扶不起;奔驰可以谈得下来,但肯定没有好得支持;雷诺既可以谈得下来又可以有好的支持,麦克拉伦用底盘技术和雷诺深度合作。

这两年麦克拉伦真不衰,要是麦克拉伦衰的话,奔驰早提供引擎了。
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"实际情况是,迈凯伦放弃了最好的F1引擎换用了最差的。但车队不满于当时的客户引擎位置,特别是考虑到他们坚实的润滑油合作伙伴美孚失去了梅赛德斯官方合作资格,梅赛德斯V6引擎是针对马石油的燃油和润滑油进行优化的。

迈凯伦发现,他们不可能使用客户版引擎,挑战梅赛德斯厂商车队,所以他们放弃了奔驰引擎,成为了一支“厂商”车队,以再次争夺世界冠军"
https://bbs.hupu.com/14943218.html
"实际情况是,迈凯伦放弃了最好的F1引擎换用了最差的。但车队不满于当时的客户引擎位置,特别是考虑到他们坚实的润滑油合作伙伴美孚失去了梅赛德斯官方合作资格,梅赛德斯V6引擎是针对马石油的燃油和润滑油进行优化的。

迈凯伦发现,他们不可能使用客户版引擎,挑战梅赛德斯厂商车队,所以他们放弃了奔驰引擎,成为了一支“厂商”车队,以再次争夺世界冠军"
https://bbs.hupu.com/14943218.html
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我说的是这个周期的头一年2014年。 为什么用雷诺其实也挺无奈的---法拉利因为间谍门的事情直接剔除;本田实在是扶不起;奔驰可以谈得下来,但肯定没有好得支持;雷诺既可以谈得下来又可以有好的支持,麦克拉伦用底盘技术和雷诺深度合作。 这两年麦克拉伦真不衰,要是麦克拉伦衰的话,奔驰早提供引擎了。
我说的是这个周期的头一年2014年。

为什么用雷诺其实也挺无奈的---法拉利因为间谍门的事情直接剔除;本田实在是扶不起;奔驰可以谈得下来,但肯定没有好得支持;雷诺既可以谈得下来又可以有好的支持,麦克拉伦用底盘技术和雷诺深度合作。

这两年麦克拉伦真不衰,要是麦克拉伦衰的话,奔驰早提供引擎了。
13 14年烂很大部分是迈凯轮的主力设计师都被挖走了,将军也不够给力,这几年虽说是烂引擎,但是研发实力还是很强的,如果有匹配竞争力的引擎,我相信迈凯轮会优化的很好,期待明年啊。也希望明年冬测的时候范多恩先上,验证一下稳定性再说,不然头哥不能跑的话,就愤怒了。
13 14年烂很大部分是迈凯轮的主力设计师都被挖走了,将军也不够给力,这几年虽说是烂引擎,但是研发实力还是很强的,如果有匹配竞争力的引擎,我相信迈凯轮会优化的很好,期待明年啊。也希望明年冬测的时候范多恩先上,验证一下稳定性再说,不然头哥不能跑的话,就愤怒了。
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丹尼斯认为这样的情况会导致客户车队永远都慢下去:“我和车队内部的很多人持有的观点是,如果你获得的引擎并不是引擎制造商所能提供的最好的引擎,你就没有机会赢得世界冠军。”

丹尼斯关注的是引擎的原始数据而不是单纯的动力问题:“而当今的大奖赛的引擎关注的焦点不是单纯的马力问题,它是关于你如何收获能量、如何储存能量。事实上,如果你不能控制那个过程,也就是说得到那个过程的源代码,就意味着你不能让你的车稳定的进入弯道等,而你会因此损失很多时间。即使你有相同制造商的引擎,这并不意味着你能最优化引擎的能力。”
http://sports.163.com/14/1023/09/A97T1MSC00051CDQ.html
丹尼斯认为这样的情况会导致客户车队永远都慢下去:“我和车队内部的很多人持有的观点是,如果你获得的引擎并不是引擎制造商所能提供的最好的引擎,你就没有机会赢得世界冠军。”

丹尼斯关注的是引擎的原始数据而不是单纯的动力问题:“而当今的大奖赛的引擎关注的焦点不是单纯的马力问题,它是关于你如何收获能量、如何储存能量。事实上,如果你不能控制那个过程,也就是说得到那个过程的源代码,就意味着你不能让你的车稳定的进入弯道等,而你会因此损失很多时间。即使你有相同制造商的引擎,这并不意味着你能最优化引擎的能力。”
http://sports.163.com/14/1023/09/A97T1MSC00051CDQ.html
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Fernando Alonso is in line for a Toyota LMP1 WEC test in Bahrain later this month
Fernando Alonso is in line for a Toyota LMP1 WEC test in Bahrain later this month
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Horner: Red Bull tried to sign Alonso in 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2012
http://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2017/11/07/5a0215b4468aebab208b456d.html
Horner: Red Bull tried to sign Alonso in 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2012
http://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2017/11/07/5a0215b4468aebab208b456d.html
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引用 @黄箕音鞋 发表的:
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13 14年烂很大部分是迈凯轮的主力设计师都被挖走了,将军也不够给力,这几年虽说是烂引擎,但是研发实力还是很强的,如果有匹配竞争力的引擎,我相信迈凯轮会优化的很好,期待明年啊。也希望明年冬测的时候范多恩先上,验证一下稳定性再说,不然头哥不能跑的话,就愤怒了。
13 14年烂很大部分是迈凯轮的主力设计师都被挖走了,将军也不够给力,这几年虽说是烂引擎,但是研发实力还是很强的,如果有匹配竞争力的引擎,我相信迈凯轮会优化的很好,期待明年啊。也希望明年冬测的时候范多恩先上,验证一下稳定性再说,不然头哥不能跑的话,就愤怒了。
你说的对,13和14年烂的确是上一任领队糟糕决策的后遗症。放汉密尔顿走可以,但随便怎么都不能放走以洛维为首的那帮技术人员。丹尼斯回归后有一点做得很对:不管是车手还是技术人员,先挖人,而这些人倒还真坚持了下来。

所以可以说这三年麦克拉伦的产品很烂,但底子非常好。
你说的对,13和14年烂的确是上一任领队糟糕决策的后遗症。放汉密尔顿走可以,但随便怎么都不能放走以洛维为首的那帮技术人员。丹尼斯回归后有一点做得很对:不管是车手还是技术人员,先挖人,而这些人倒还真坚持了下来。

所以可以说这三年麦克拉伦的产品很烂,但底子非常好。
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這幾年被本田摧殘的結果,我覺得頭哥只要再得分站冠軍就是勝利
這幾年被本田摧殘的結果,我覺得頭哥只要再得分站冠軍就是勝利
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- spec 3.8 is about 60 hp behind,

- GPS data say that on the first 1/3 of the straight they are competitive, not afterwards

- because of the MGU-H, they drive it detuned

- because of broken sealings and bearings in former races



- Renault: turbine and compressor at the back of the engine

- different to Honda (we all know that), but consequence is

- new gearbox design and clutch bell housing

- cooling config completely different, McLaren will use works teams recommdandations, but

- with more experience own development in this area makes sense



- Updates the last races were breakthrough, because

- maybe the best car in fast corners, but

- have to work on slow corners

http://forums.autosport.com/topic/207339-mclaren-honda-mcl32-part-6/page-80
- spec 3.8 is about 60 hp behind,

- GPS data say that on the first 1/3 of the straight they are competitive, not afterwards

- because of the MGU-H, they drive it detuned

- because of broken sealings and bearings in former races



- Renault: turbine and compressor at the back of the engine

- different to Honda (we all know that), but consequence is

- new gearbox design and clutch bell housing

- cooling config completely different, McLaren will use works teams recommdandations, but

- with more experience own development in this area makes sense



- Updates the last races were breakthrough, because

- maybe the best car in fast corners, but

- have to work on slow corners

http://forums.autosport.com/topic/207339-mclaren-honda-mcl32-part-6/page-80
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从15年开始。。。年年兴奋。。。
从15年开始。。。年年兴奋。。。
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引用 @糊塗的mori小五郎 发表的:
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- spec 3.8 is about 60 hp behind, - GPS data say that on the first 1/3 of the straight they are competitive, not afterwards - because of the MGU-H, they drive it detuned - because of broken sealings and bearings in former races - Renault: turbine and compressor at the back of the engine - different to Honda (we all know that), but consequence is - new gearbox design and clutch bell housing - cooling config completely different, McLaren will use works teams recommdandations, but - with more experience own development in this area makes sense - Updates the last races were breakthrough, because - maybe the best car in fast corners, but - have to work on slow corners http://forums.autosport.com/topic/207339-mclaren-honda-mcl32-part-6/page-80
- spec 3.8 is about 60 hp behind,

- GPS data say that on the first 1/3 of the straight they are competitive, not afterwards

- because of the MGU-H, they drive it detuned

- because of broken sealings and bearings in former races



- Renault: turbine and compressor at the back of the engine

- different to Honda (we all know that), but consequence is

- new gearbox design and clutch bell housing

- cooling config completely different, McLaren will use works teams recommdandations, but

- with more experience own development in this area makes sense



- Updates the last races were breakthrough, because

- maybe the best car in fast corners, but

- have to work on slow corners

http://forums.autosport.com/topic/207339-mclaren-honda-mcl32-part-6/page-80
鉴于终于甩掉了最大的拖累,没准曙光真的快来了,或许可以在麦版开个新帖子放放懒的翻译的新闻啊流言蜚语什么的;
鉴于终于甩掉了最大的拖累,没准曙光真的快来了,或许可以在麦版开个新帖子放放懒的翻译的新闻啊流言蜚语什么的;
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如果现在给你奔驰引擎的话,会不会更兴奋? 如果是的话,14年又何必转投本田? 如果MC认为客户车队永远也赢不了冠军的话,那从现在开始,MC为了什么而战?
如果现在给你奔驰引擎的话,会不会更兴奋?
如果是的话,14年又何必转投本田?
如果MC认为客户车队永远也赢不了冠军的话,那从现在开始,MC为了什么而战?
原来选择本田时是这么说的,是丹尼斯的想法。虽然一直不喜欢他,但是觉得挺可惜的。
原来选择本田时是这么说的,是丹尼斯的想法。虽然一直不喜欢他,但是觉得挺可惜的。
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鉴于终于甩掉了最大的拖累,没准曙光真的快来了,或许可以在麦版开个新帖子放放懒的翻译的新闻啊流言蜚语什么的;
鉴于终于甩掉了最大的拖累,没准曙光真的快来了,或许可以在麦版开个新帖子放放懒的翻译的新闻啊流言蜚语什么的;
本田 spec 3.8的后面是60 hp,直线上,他们是本田有竞争力
本田 spec 3.8的后面是60 hp,直线上,他们是本田有竞争力
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McLaren: WEC could become 'huge distraction' for Alonso in 2018

McLaren thinks a significant programme alongside Formula 1 would be a "huge distraction" for Fernando Alonso amid speculation of a Toyota World Endurance Championship and Le Mans 24 Hours deal.

Alonso is tipped to join Toyota for next week's WEC rookie test at Bahrain, as discussions continue over a potential assault with the Japanese manufacturer on next year's 24-hour race at Le Mans.

There have been suggestions that, in a bid to prepare himself for Le Mans, Alonso could take part in several WEC events that do not clash with F1 races in the early part of the year.

Alonso took part in this year's Indianapolis 500 after McLaren-Honda's awful start to 2017, but his preparation was limited to simulator work and a couple of tests.

McLaren racing director Eric Boullier thinks that the physical demands of committing to two top-line series may be too much.

"I don't think you can physically do two programmes, it is too complicated," he said.

"If you commit to two programmes it is a huge distraction.

"Doing Le Mans, or doing Indianapolis, or doing Daytona, why not? Because it is a one off.

"But doing more than this would definitely be a distraction from his main commitment which is F1."

Boullier knows that Alonso is eager to secure motor racing's unofficial triple crown of victories in the Monaco Grand Prix, the Indy 500 and Le Mans.

He thinks that McLaren's job is to give the Spaniard such a competitive car in F1 that his thoughts do not drift elsewhere.

"He said he is keen to do some races outside this triple crown, and there are case-by-case discussions," said Boullier when asked if Alonso could be released for some WEC events.

"Obviously his main and his first focus is F1 - and that has priority.

"We will do everything we can to give him a competitive car and if we do this he will not race anything else."

While in Brazil, Alonso has avoided stoking the speculation he is poised to drive an LMP1 car in Bahrain, or the prospect of Le Mans or any other WEC races next season.

"I'm here and nothing is going to happen over the next few days," he said at Interlagos, before adding about Le Mans: "We will see if this could be a possibility or not, but right now there's nothing yet."
McLaren: WEC could become 'huge distraction' for Alonso in 2018

McLaren thinks a significant programme alongside Formula 1 would be a "huge distraction" for Fernando Alonso amid speculation of a Toyota World Endurance Championship and Le Mans 24 Hours deal.

Alonso is tipped to join Toyota for next week's WEC rookie test at Bahrain, as discussions continue over a potential assault with the Japanese manufacturer on next year's 24-hour race at Le Mans.

There have been suggestions that, in a bid to prepare himself for Le Mans, Alonso could take part in several WEC events that do not clash with F1 races in the early part of the year.

Alonso took part in this year's Indianapolis 500 after McLaren-Honda's awful start to 2017, but his preparation was limited to simulator work and a couple of tests.

McLaren racing director Eric Boullier thinks that the physical demands of committing to two top-line series may be too much.

"I don't think you can physically do two programmes, it is too complicated," he said.

"If you commit to two programmes it is a huge distraction.

"Doing Le Mans, or doing Indianapolis, or doing Daytona, why not? Because it is a one off.

"But doing more than this would definitely be a distraction from his main commitment which is F1."

Boullier knows that Alonso is eager to secure motor racing's unofficial triple crown of victories in the Monaco Grand Prix, the Indy 500 and Le Mans.

He thinks that McLaren's job is to give the Spaniard such a competitive car in F1 that his thoughts do not drift elsewhere.

"He said he is keen to do some races outside this triple crown, and there are case-by-case discussions," said Boullier when asked if Alonso could be released for some WEC events.

"Obviously his main and his first focus is F1 - and that has priority.

"We will do everything we can to give him a competitive car and if we do this he will not race anything else."

While in Brazil, Alonso has avoided stoking the speculation he is poised to drive an LMP1 car in Bahrain, or the prospect of Le Mans or any other WEC races next season.

"I'm here and nothing is going to happen over the next few days," he said at Interlagos, before adding about Le Mans: "We will see if this could be a possibility or not, but right now there's nothing yet."
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He thinks that McLaren's job is to give the Spaniard such a competitive car in F1 that his thoughts do not drift elsewhere.

"We will do everything we can to give him a competitive car and if we do this he will not race anything else."

大概对于双不双线全不全勤领队真的没什么决定权

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He thinks that McLaren's job is to give the Spaniard such a competitive car in F1 that his thoughts do not drift elsewhere.

"We will do everything we can to give him a competitive car and if we do this he will not race anything else."

大概对于双不双线全不全勤领队真的没什么决定权

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我覺得雙不雙線取決於隊友強度,如果跟HAM同隊玩雙線就很...

VAN是個好青年?!(雖然心機的選了2號車號)
ALO玩雙線導致輸隊友的風險也是有,只是沒那麼大
(就算真的排位輸了,靠正賽應該扳的回來)
我覺得雙不雙線取決於隊友強度,如果跟HAM同隊玩雙線就很...

VAN是個好青年?!(雖然心機的選了2號車號)
ALO玩雙線導致輸隊友的風險也是有,只是沒那麼大
(就算真的排位輸了,靠正賽應該扳的回來)
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引用 @Yonoi 发表的:
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尾速感人,真的冠了,倒冠
尾速感人,真的冠了,倒冠
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