LeDurable James belongs to a different era [OC]
詹姆斯的耐久程度可以说是完全属于另一个时代。
Y轴=前14个赛季的总上场时间（季后赛加常规赛）
X轴=进入联盟的时间
六个标注出来的名字，从左到右，从上到下的顺序依次为
张伯伦，埃尔文海耶斯，贾巴尔，卡尔马龙，勒布朗詹姆斯，伊戈达拉
[–]NBAsergeantkh2 446 指標 1 天前
lmao still cant believe Wilt averaged 48.5 min in a season.
哈哈哈哈我还是不敢相信张伯伦有个赛季场均48.5分钟。
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryanthowdoesilogin 219 指標 1 天前*
Averaged 45.8 for his career and 47.2 per game in the playoffs.
In his last two seasons at age 35 and 36 the lakers made the finals back to back (winning in '72 and losing in '73) Wilt was on the bench for a total of only 32 minutes in those two playoff runs (32 games)
职业生涯场均45.8分钟，季后赛场均47.2分钟。
在他35和36岁时的最后两个赛季里，湖人连续杀进了总决赛（72年赢了，73年输了）而两年的季后赛里，张伯伦加起来只在在板凳上坐了32分钟。
[–][CLE] J.R. Smith98rman 152 指標 1 天前
He rested for .8 minutes per game in the playoffs? What a scrub
他季后赛场均一场居然要休息0.8分钟？？？真是个渣渣。
[–][CLE] Manny HarrisSwift_taco_mechanic 80 指標 1 天前
That was probably the last 3 minutes of blowouts every few games too
估计那些时间就是偶尔会有比赛被打花时候剩下的最后3分钟。
[–]Pelicanshadwar 64 指標 1 天前
different era tho, the tempo was much higher so it was easier to.. oh w8 what
时代不一样了呀，当时节奏更快，所以会更容易做到（上场时间多）……噫，等一下，不太对劲啊……
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryanthowdoesilogin 58 指標 1 天前
Yeah thats the thing that changed my view about Wilt. Fuck the points and boards that can be chalked up to pace, the level of competition etc. But playing season after season basically without sitting on the bench? That's just unreal.
Imagine what that guy could do now with all the advanced data on lineups and bench rotations. Like you have a problem like OKC does the team is really bad when Westbrook sits, with Wilt you dont have that problem, ever (he never fouled out of a game in his career either). Plus he's going 10-15 minutes a game against backup guys
是啊，就是这个事情改变了我对张伯伦的看法。那种节奏快刷出来的得分和篮板不说，比赛竞争的激烈程度也不说。但是一个接一个的赛季，他都几乎不需要在板凳席上休息？这太不现实了
想一想再加上现在的这些关于阵容调配的高阶数据，还有板凳轮换。就比如雷霆这样的球队，威斯布鲁克一下场休息球队表现就变差，但如果是张伯伦的话，这样的问题就从来不存在的（他从来没有在职业生涯的任何一场比赛里被罚下）。而且他还有10-15分钟对上的是对面的替补球员。
[–]WizardsPOINT_DADDY_HARDEN 45 指標 1 天前
Imagine being that benched backup centre though lol. Looking forward to that 20 seconds of playing time each game.
哈哈哈想像一下自己是那个给张伯伦做替补的人，每场只能期盼着自己上场的那20秒钟。
[–]CavaliersStosstruppe 62 指標 1 天前
This has to be the real unreachable record right? That's pretty fucking insane for any players regardless of era to do.
张伯伦这个肯定是真的最不可能达到的记录了吧？不管那个年代，任何一个球员做到这个都很疯狂吧。
[–]Trail BlazersnotDAME 46 指標 1 天前
most unreachable record in sports that i know of
我了解的体育项目里。最不可能达到的记录。
[–]TimberwolvesYouArentMe 77 指標 1 天前
In Wilt's 1962 season he averaged 48.52 minutes a game. There were only 80 games back then, so at 48 minutes a game there were 3840 total minutes in that season. Now accounting for overtime games, of which they had 7, including a double OT game and a triple OT game, it adds a total of 50 minutes to the season. Wilt played a total of 3882 minutes that season, meaning he missed only 8 total minutes of playtime throughout that entire season including OT games.
张伯伦在1962年的那个赛季，场均48.52分钟。当时只有80场比赛，所以48分钟一场，那个赛季一共是3840分钟。再算上打了加时的比赛，一共七场，包括一个双加时，还有一个三加时。一共给那个赛季又加了50分钟。张伯伦那个赛季一共打了3882分钟，意味着他那个赛季算上加时一共只错过了8分钟的比赛。
[–][GSW] Andre Iguodalacoconuts3 24 指標 1 天前
Thats absolutely disgusting. Was there a single stat he didn't stuff the hell out of? I feel like there wasn't, he did literally everything.
太恶心啦！到底有没有哪个数据没有被他的名字塞得满满当当？？我觉得是不存在的，他几乎啥都做到过了。
[–]Speed_Bump 47 指標 1 天前
He never fouled out in his career. He felt he was paid to be on the court playing so he was more judicious when he got in foul trouble.
他还从来没在比赛里被罚下过。他觉得自己领工资就是要在场上打球，所以他一陷入犯规麻烦就开始变得很谨慎。
[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingiseduardonachocamacho 13 指標 1 天前*
It's worth pointing out, though, that the level of effort he had to exert was nothing compared to LeBron, or even Hayes for that matter.
If you watch his old games, specifically those early on, it was like watching a high school senior against middle schoolers. Sure he's running around, but he's not taking any abuse on a near daily basis like LeBron.
So really, if there was a way to calculate for attained stress on the body per minute (obviously something incalculable), LeBron would be far and away the leader in, I don't know what you'd call it, "body-miles per minute"?
但还是值得指出一下他需要付出的努力，跟詹姆斯或者是海耶斯比起来不是一个级别的。
如果你看他原来的比赛，尤其是那些早年间的，就好像是看着高中毕业生对付初中生一样。确实他也在场上跑来跑去，但他并不用每天承受詹姆斯的身体所承受的那种滥用。
所以讲真，如果可以通过某种方式检测出身体平均每分钟所承受的压力（很明显计算不出来）。詹姆斯肯定会领先很多，我不知道这个该怎么称呼，“身体每分钟里程数”？
[–]nowhathappenedwas 377 指標 1 天前
While LeBron is obviously ridiculously durable, this chart is a combination of his durability and his excellence.
First, LeBron was excellent enough to get huge minutes as a rookie. If you look at seasons 3-14, LeBron is essentially tied with Dirk, Kobe, Garnett, and Joe Johnson in regular season minutes.
Second, LeBron was excellent enough to repeatedly take his teams deep into the postseason. For example, Gary Payton played just 500 fewer regular season minutes than LeBron through 14 seasons, but LeBron has nearly 4000 extra minutes in the postseason. And LeBron began his career the year after the first round was expanded, so he's basically the only star on the chart who's played a full 14 seasons under the expanded playoffs.
Also, it should be noted that he appears to be more of an outlier than he actually is due to the Y-axis starting at 35000 rather than 0.
当然詹姆斯的持久力非常令人吃惊，但这个表格也是对于詹姆斯持久力和优秀程度的综合反应。
首先，詹姆斯很优秀在新秀赛季就可以得到大把的上场时间。如果你看他第3-14个赛季的话，詹姆斯基本上和诺维茨基，科比，加内特，还有乔约翰逊都打了相同的常规赛时间。
第二，詹姆斯足够优秀，可以让自己的球队每次季后赛之旅都很深入。举个例子，加里佩顿打到第14个赛季常规赛只比詹姆斯少打了500分钟的比赛，但詹姆斯在季后赛却比他多了整整4000分钟。同时詹姆斯进入联盟的时候，首轮比赛已经从五局三胜制变成了七局四胜制。所以他基本上就是表格里唯一一个打了整整14个赛季的加长版季后赛的球员。
同时，应该注意到，他比他本应该在的位置看起来更在整个表格的轮廓之外，是因为Y轴是从35000开始的，而不是0。
[–]Jacien-Visenad 508 指標 1 天前
But he rested that one time!
Think of the fans!
I'm triggered!
但是他轮休了一次啊！
考虑一下球迷！
我被惹怒了！
[–]miriczivojin 146 指標 1 天前
'Back injury', sabbatical, MVP's don't take games off.
“后背伤病”，休息，MVP才不会选择轮休比赛。
[–][PHI] Chris Webbertheb3arjevv 37 指標 1 天前
There are quite a few super durable guys still around. DeAndre Jordan and Tristain Thompson are both extremely physical and have missed like one game a piece in their careers.
现在还是有不少耐久力优秀的球员的。小乔丹和特里斯坦汤普森身体素质都极为出色，可能各自的职业生涯都只缺席过一场比赛吧。
[–]Rockets BandwagonKsanti 86 指標 1 天前
Both DJ and Tristan's career highs in minutes per game are lower than Lebron's career low.
小乔丹和汤普森的职业生涯最高场均出场时间，都比詹姆斯职业生涯最低出场时间低。
[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesjloy88 10 指標 1 天前
If you combine his games with the Olympic national team and the playoffs James has played 3.5 seasons more basketball than an average NBA player who played the same amount of seasons. he has literally played 17.5 seasons of basketball in 14.
如果再算上他在奥林匹克国家队的比赛时间和他在季后赛里的时间，詹姆斯比一般的，跟他打了相同年限的NBA球员多打了整整3.5个赛季。他真的是等于在14年里打了17.5个赛季。
翻译：@ClydeBot
LeDurable James belongs to a different era [OC]
詹姆斯的耐久程度可以说是完全属于另一个时代。
Y轴=前14个赛季的总上场时间（季后赛加常规赛）
X轴=进入联盟的时间
六个标注出来的名字，从左到右，从上到下的顺序依次为
张伯伦，埃尔文海耶斯，贾巴尔，卡尔马龙，勒布朗詹姆斯，伊戈达拉
[–]NBAsergeantkh2 446 指標 1 天前
lmao still cant believe Wilt averaged 48.5 min in a season.
哈哈哈哈我还是不敢相信张伯伦有个赛季场均48.5分钟。
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryanthowdoesilogin 219 指標 1 天前*
Averaged 45.8 for his career and 47.2 per game in the playoffs.
In his last two seasons at age 35 and 36 the lakers made the finals back to back (winning in '72 and losing in '73) Wilt was on the bench for a total of only 32 minutes in those two playoff runs (32 games)
职业生涯场均45.8分钟，季后赛场均47.2分钟。
在他35和36岁时的最后两个赛季里，湖人连续杀进了总决赛（72年赢了，73年输了）而两年的季后赛里，张伯伦加起来只在在板凳上坐了32分钟。
[–][CLE] J.R. Smith98rman 152 指標 1 天前
He rested for .8 minutes per game in the playoffs? What a scrub
他季后赛场均一场居然要休息0.8分钟？？？真是个渣渣。
[–][CLE] Manny HarrisSwift_taco_mechanic 80 指標 1 天前
That was probably the last 3 minutes of blowouts every few games too
估计那些时间就是偶尔会有比赛被打花时候剩下的最后3分钟。
[–]Pelicanshadwar 64 指標 1 天前
different era tho, the tempo was much higher so it was easier to.. oh w8 what
时代不一样了呀，当时节奏更快，所以会更容易做到（上场时间多）……噫，等一下，不太对劲啊……
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryanthowdoesilogin 58 指標 1 天前
Yeah thats the thing that changed my view about Wilt. Fuck the points and boards that can be chalked up to pace, the level of competition etc. But playing season after season basically without sitting on the bench? That's just unreal.
Imagine what that guy could do now with all the advanced data on lineups and bench rotations. Like you have a problem like OKC does the team is really bad when Westbrook sits, with Wilt you dont have that problem, ever (he never fouled out of a game in his career either). Plus he's going 10-15 minutes a game against backup guys
是啊，就是这个事情改变了我对张伯伦的看法。那种节奏快刷出来的得分和篮板不说，比赛竞争的激烈程度也不说。但是一个接一个的赛季，他都几乎不需要在板凳席上休息？这太不现实了
想一想再加上现在的这些关于阵容调配的高阶数据，还有板凳轮换。就比如雷霆这样的球队，威斯布鲁克一下场休息球队表现就变差，但如果是张伯伦的话，这样的问题就从来不存在的（他从来没有在职业生涯的任何一场比赛里被罚下）。而且他还有10-15分钟对上的是对面的替补球员。
[–]WizardsPOINT_DADDY_HARDEN 45 指標 1 天前
Imagine being that benched backup centre though lol. Looking forward to that 20 seconds of playing time each game.
哈哈哈想像一下自己是那个给张伯伦做替补的人，每场只能期盼着自己上场的那20秒钟。
[–]CavaliersStosstruppe 62 指標 1 天前
This has to be the real unreachable record right? That's pretty fucking insane for any players regardless of era to do.
张伯伦这个肯定是真的最不可能达到的记录了吧？不管那个年代，任何一个球员做到这个都很疯狂吧。
[–]Trail BlazersnotDAME 46 指標 1 天前
most unreachable record in sports that i know of
我了解的体育项目里。最不可能达到的记录。
[–]TimberwolvesYouArentMe 77 指標 1 天前
In Wilt's 1962 season he averaged 48.52 minutes a game. There were only 80 games back then, so at 48 minutes a game there were 3840 total minutes in that season. Now accounting for overtime games, of which they had 7, including a double OT game and a triple OT game, it adds a total of 50 minutes to the season. Wilt played a total of 3882 minutes that season, meaning he missed only 8 total minutes of playtime throughout that entire season including OT games.
张伯伦在1962年的那个赛季，场均48.52分钟。当时只有80场比赛，所以48分钟一场，那个赛季一共是3840分钟。再算上打了加时的比赛，一共七场，包括一个双加时，还有一个三加时。一共给那个赛季又加了50分钟。张伯伦那个赛季一共打了3882分钟，意味着他那个赛季算上加时一共只错过了8分钟的比赛。
[–][GSW] Andre Iguodalacoconuts3 24 指標 1 天前
Thats absolutely disgusting. Was there a single stat he didn't stuff the hell out of? I feel like there wasn't, he did literally everything.
太恶心啦！到底有没有哪个数据没有被他的名字塞得满满当当？？我觉得是不存在的，他几乎啥都做到过了。
[–]Speed_Bump 47 指標 1 天前
He never fouled out in his career. He felt he was paid to be on the court playing so he was more judicious when he got in foul trouble.
他还从来没在比赛里被罚下过。他觉得自己领工资就是要在场上打球，所以他一陷入犯规麻烦就开始变得很谨慎。
[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingiseduardonachocamacho 13 指標 1 天前*
It's worth pointing out, though, that the level of effort he had to exert was nothing compared to LeBron, or even Hayes for that matter.
If you watch his old games, specifically those early on, it was like watching a high school senior against middle schoolers. Sure he's running around, but he's not taking any abuse on a near daily basis like LeBron.
So really, if there was a way to calculate for attained stress on the body per minute (obviously something incalculable), LeBron would be far and away the leader in, I don't know what you'd call it, "body-miles per minute"?
但还是值得指出一下他需要付出的努力，跟詹姆斯或者是海耶斯比起来不是一个级别的。
如果你看他原来的比赛，尤其是那些早年间的，就好像是看着高中毕业生对付初中生一样。确实他也在场上跑来跑去，但他并不用每天承受詹姆斯的身体所承受的那种滥用。
所以讲真，如果可以通过某种方式检测出身体平均每分钟所承受的压力（很明显计算不出来）。詹姆斯肯定会领先很多，我不知道这个该怎么称呼，“身体每分钟里程数”？
[–]nowhathappenedwas 377 指標 1 天前
While LeBron is obviously ridiculously durable, this chart is a combination of his durability and his excellence.
First, LeBron was excellent enough to get huge minutes as a rookie. If you look at seasons 3-14, LeBron is essentially tied with Dirk, Kobe, Garnett, and Joe Johnson in regular season minutes.
Second, LeBron was excellent enough to repeatedly take his teams deep into the postseason. For example, Gary Payton played just 500 fewer regular season minutes than LeBron through 14 seasons, but LeBron has nearly 4000 extra minutes in the postseason. And LeBron began his career the year after the first round was expanded, so he's basically the only star on the chart who's played a full 14 seasons under the expanded playoffs.
Also, it should be noted that he appears to be more of an outlier than he actually is due to the Y-axis starting at 35000 rather than 0.
当然詹姆斯的持久力非常令人吃惊，但这个表格也是对于詹姆斯持久力和优秀程度的综合反应。
首先，詹姆斯很优秀在新秀赛季就可以得到大把的上场时间。如果你看他第3-14个赛季的话，詹姆斯基本上和诺维茨基，科比，加内特，还有乔约翰逊都打了相同的常规赛时间。
第二，詹姆斯足够优秀，可以让自己的球队每次季后赛之旅都很深入。举个例子，加里佩顿打到第14个赛季常规赛只比詹姆斯少打了500分钟的比赛，但詹姆斯在季后赛却比他多了整整4000分钟。同时詹姆斯进入联盟的时候，首轮比赛已经从五局三胜制变成了七局四胜制。所以他基本上就是表格里唯一一个打了整整14个赛季的加长版季后赛的球员。
同时，应该注意到，他比他本应该在的位置看起来更在整个表格的轮廓之外，是因为Y轴是从35000开始的，而不是0。
[–]Jacien-Visenad 508 指標 1 天前
But he rested that one time!
Think of the fans!
I'm triggered!
但是他轮休了一次啊！
考虑一下球迷！
我被惹怒了！
[–]miriczivojin 146 指標 1 天前
'Back injury', sabbatical, MVP's don't take games off.
“后背伤病”，休息，MVP才不会选择轮休比赛。
[–][PHI] Chris Webbertheb3arjevv 37 指標 1 天前
There are quite a few super durable guys still around. DeAndre Jordan and Tristain Thompson are both extremely physical and have missed like one game a piece in their careers.
现在还是有不少耐久力优秀的球员的。小乔丹和特里斯坦汤普森身体素质都极为出色，可能各自的职业生涯都只缺席过一场比赛吧。
[–]Rockets BandwagonKsanti 86 指標 1 天前
Both DJ and Tristan's career highs in minutes per game are lower than Lebron's career low.
小乔丹和汤普森的职业生涯最高场均出场时间，都比詹姆斯职业生涯最低出场时间低。
[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesjloy88 10 指標 1 天前
If you combine his games with the Olympic national team and the playoffs James has played 3.5 seasons more basketball than an average NBA player who played the same amount of seasons. he has literally played 17.5 seasons of basketball in 14.
如果再算上他在奥林匹克国家队的比赛时间和他在季后赛里的时间，詹姆斯比一般的，跟他打了相同年限的NBA球员多打了整整3.5个赛季。他真的是等于在14年里打了17.5个赛季。
翻译：@ClydeBot
