好吧,我认错了。
但是,我还是不会接受任何时期的大Z出现在我们下个赛季的队伍里。
9/16/2015 jking 948:
Two options: 1) Mark Price. This lets the team move Kyrie to the two guard and gives us perhaps the best perimeter attack in NBA history. The big weakness would be too many guys won need the ball but I think we'd figure it out. Easy championship team. 2) Big Z. The offensive attack in a lineup of Kyrie-JR-LBJ-Love-Z would be insane. It would be Patriots-Tom Brady-Wes Welker-Randy Moss type spread attack. Then, when you need D, you have Moz and Shump who are both fantastic defensive players as well as an improving Tristan. This would be another easy championship team. People forget but the Cavs have had some great players throughout our history. Time to finally win a ring.
两个选择:
1). 马克-普莱斯. 这可以让球队把欧文位置上移打双控位,这可能给我们得到NBA历史上最好的外线攻击。 最大的缺点就是,太多人需要球权了,但我想我们应该会找到方法的。 轻松夺冠的球队。
2). 大Z. 一套有欧文-JR-詹姆斯-乐福-大Z的阵容,进攻能力将是疯狂的。 这将是爱国者*那套- 汤姆-布兰迪 - 威斯-威尔克 - 兰迪-莫斯 般的分散攻击力。然后,你需要防守, 你有墨子和香波特 两个杰出的防守球员,还有一个在进步的汤普森。 这是另一个轻松夺冠的球队。
人们总是忘记骑士也曾在自己的历史上有过许多杰出球员。 是时候该赢一个戒指了。
译者注: 爱国者 - New England Patriots 美橄榄球强队。
主页地址: http://www.patriots.com/
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9/16/2015 Walter White:
LeBron. Oh wait.
詹姆斯. 噢,等等.
9/16/2015 CBBI:
2008-09 Delonte West would be high on the list for me. .457/.399/.833 shooting line with legit ability to play both on and off the ball plus guard 1s and 2s.
2008-09赛季的德隆特-韦斯特将会在我的名单里排在很前面。
45.7%/39,9%/83.3%的命中率,完全有能力去打有球或者无球,加上可以防守1和2号位。
9/16/2015 UncleDrew:
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CBBI said: ↑ http://bbs.hupu.com/template/fbd/coldwindeditor/http://realcavsfans.com/community/styles/achik2/xenforo/gradients/category-23px-light.png); background-p_w_upload: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 50% 0%; background-repeat: repeat-x;">2008-09 Delonte West would be high on the list for me. .457/.399/.833 shooting line with legit ability to play both on and off the ball plus guard 1s and 2s.
9/16/2015 Snarly:
Mark Price, that back court Of Mo, Delly, Irving and Price would be insane. And would make the splash brothers look weak.
马克-普莱斯,莫,戴利,欧文和普莱斯的后场阵容将是疯狂的。可以让水花兄弟黯然失色。
9/16/2015 selby56:
2007 ECF Game 6 Daniel Gibson. We are allowed to be as specific as we want right? Because any other form of Daniel Gibson is trash.
2007 东决第六场的丹尼尔-吉布森。
我们可以按我们想要的尽可能具体,对吧? 因为其他任何时候的丹尼尔-吉布森都是垃圾。
9/17/2015 brownsbuck6:
I have been swayed to the Mark Price / Kyrie backcourt.. instant titles. I fail to see how anyone is stopping that train. Sorry Mr Nance.
我已经被马克-普莱斯/欧文的后场动摇了...疯狂的想法啊。我想不出任何人可以阻挡它。 对不起了,南斯先生。
9/17/2015 TyGuy:
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brownsbuck6 said: ↑ http://bbs.hupu.com/template/fbd/coldwindeditor/http://realcavsfans.com/community/styles/achik2/xenforo/gradients/category-23px-light.png); background-p_w_upload: initial; background-size: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-position: 50% 0%; background-repeat: repeat-x;">I have been swayed to the Mark Price / Kyrie backcourt.. instant titles. I fail to see how anyone is stopping that train. Sorry Mr Nance.
The offense would be fantastic with these guys, but the defense would be pretty bad. You could get away with it against a lot of teams as they wouldn't have the personnel to expose them, but certain key match ups would be brutal. Chicago it would be awful against, same goes for warriors, but you could get away with it against the spurs as Danny Green isn't really going to make either guy pay. The one great thing though is the warriors couldn't hide steph like they did throughout the playoffs. Making someone work on the defensive end can help reduce a guys effectiveness on offense. I see a lot of people picking a replacement for Tristan. Remember, Tristan is going to be on the club no matter what next season. You don't really need to replace his production since he is pretty dang good in his role with the team. I feel weird sticking up for Tristan here because I have been one of his biggest critics since day 1. Now if you want to bring a guy back because he was your favorite player, that is cool too.
这些家伙的进攻将是顶级的,但是防守却会很糟。你可以在面对许多球队时避开这个问题,因为他们不会有足够人手去打爆他们。 但是面对某些特定的对手时,将会很残酷的。比如芝加哥就非常难应付,同样的还有勇士;但你可以避开它,像面对马刺的丹尼-格林时,他不会让这两的任何一个为糟糕的防守买单。一个好的方面是,勇士再也不能在季后赛像以前那样把库里藏起来了。让一个人在防守上耗费精力,可以减少他在进攻上的效率。
我看到很多人寻找一个汤普森的替代品。记住,不管下赛季发生什么,汤普森都会待在队里。 你不需要去找人来替代他的贡献,鉴于他在球队里自己角色上干的还不错。我对汤普森出现在这里感到很好奇,尽管从他在球队的第一天起,我就是他最大的批评者之一。
当然,如果你想把自己最喜欢的一个球员带回球队里,这也很酷。
9/17/2015 Lord Mar:
Dujuan Wagner with a colon. Carlos Boozer with a soul.
有肠子的 达胡安-瓦格纳*。
有良心的卡洛斯-布泽尔。
译者注: 达胡安-瓦格纳. 骑士2002年六号秀。 格纳凭借过人的速度和强悍的得分能力,时常被人拿来和当时如日中天的阿伦·艾弗森对比。曾在高中的一场比赛中得到100分,高中最后一年场均42.5分。新秀赛季,瓦格纳为骑士场均贡献13.4分和2.8助攻,不过命中率很低。他于04-05赛季患上大肠溃疡,长期腹泻,无法承受高强度比赛。终于2005年入院Mount Sinai Hospital进行大肠溃疡切除重建手术。术后不再具有NBA比赛实力,经过1年恢复,曾于2006年为金州勇士队打过一场后被裁。之后曾转战波兰,但最终也没能再复当年之勇。
9/17/2015 kovanovich:
I have a soft spot for Ron Harper -- will never get over that trade -- but given his lack of shooting, he probably isn't the best fit. That's a tough call between Nance and Hot Rod. Nance was obviously a much better player, but I can see the argument that Hot Rod's ability to play center is a plus. Even during his Cavs' years, Nance played a lot at the 3, so that's a point in his favor. I just think Nance is really a David Griffin type of player. High basketball IQ, unselfish, good shooter. He would find a role here and fit in, although he would be severely underutilized, on the assumption Love would start over him. I think Ehlo is actually a darkhorse candidate. Can play 2 or 3. Very crafty, smart player, solid defender, plus rebounder, good passer, clutch player, excellent long range shooter (poor FT shooter). Ehlo is one of my all-time favorites and would fill a need on this team. Not a huge need at this point unless Jefferson is washed up (which is conceivable). I just think he is the sort of guy who would accept a bench role for this team and thrive. I just don't see the fit of Price playing alongside Irving. And Daugherty, while maybe it would work, would require more work to integrate into the team. Plus his defense was adequate at best. Just not convinced him taking minutes from Mozgov would be a good thing. Maybe that's wrong though. I would take Ehlo over Person -- based on what this team needs -- and I think Daugherly over Ilgauskas, though I could probably be convinced otherwise on that.
罗恩-哈珀在我心里有特殊的位置 - 我永远不会对他被交易感到释怀 - 但是,鉴于他缺乏射程,他可能不是很好的人选。
在南斯和飞车手罗德之间选择很难。南斯很明显是更好的球员,但我能看到关于飞车手罗德有能力打中锋的观点是个加分项。南斯在骑士的时期,他大多打3号位置,所以这是更倾向他的地方。
我认为南斯是个大卫-格里芬风格的球员。有很高的篮球智商,无私,不错的射手。他可以在这找到自己的定位,并融入其中,尽管他最终会被大材小用,假设乐福会代替他先发。
我认为埃卢会是个黑马般的候选。他能打2,3号位。非常的灵巧,聪明的球员,还是个稳定的防守者,加上他篮板也不错,传球也好,能打关键球,优良的长距离射手(罚球很烂). 埃卢是我最喜欢的选择之一,他可以满足这只球队的需求。虽然球队在这点上没有庞大的需求,除非杰弗森顶了上来(这是可以想象到的). 我认为他是可以接受替补角色并成功的人。
我没有看到普莱斯搭配欧文的适用性。还有多尔蒂。也许这种选他有效,但是需要球队更多的努力去磨合。尽管他的防守足够的好,但这不能说服让他顶替墨子的上场时间是件好事。或者这就是个错误的想法。
鉴于球队的需求,我会选埃卢多于帕特森 - 还有我选多尔蒂多于大Z, 虽然这个反着来我也能接受。
9/17/2015 TyGuy:
Larry Nance isn't playing small forward in this era of NBA. Back in the 80's and 90's teams got away with playing power forwards at small forward because of the rule differences and less emphasis on perimeter play and shooting. You're much more likely to see him move up a position to center as that is the way things have evolved. There aren't going to be many people in this NBA that would abuse him at center so his quickness and athletic advantage would be significant and you want him closer to the hoop on defense to block shots. I think you could play Tristan and Nance together for spells because Nance does at least have a mid range shot. You would have a lot of athleticism at 4 and 5 with those two out there.
拉里-南斯在这个时代的NBA里可打不了小前锋。 回溯到80年代和90年代,球队可以找到让大前锋打小前锋的方法,因为规则不同,那时候没那么强调外线能力还有射程。 你将会看到他更多的被上摆到中锋的位置,这就是事情的发展方式。 现在的NBA里可没有太多人能在中锋位置上虐他,所以他的速度和运动能力将会有极大的优势,你希望他更靠近篮筐防守去盖掉那些投篮。
我想你可以让汤普森和南斯搭配出场,因为南斯至少有一手中投。 有这两在场上,你将在4和5号位上有强大的运动能力。
9/18/2015 The Human Q-Tip:
http://baike.baidu.com/view/3382108.htm
9/17/2015 kovanovich:
I have a soft spot for Ron Harper -- will never get over that trade -- but given his lack of shooting, he probably isn't the best fit. That's a tough call between Nance and Hot Rod. Nance was obviously a much better player, but I can see the argument that Hot Rod's ability to play center is a plus. Even during his Cavs' years, Nance played a lot at the 3, so that's a point in his favor. I just think Nance is really a David Griffin type of player. High basketball IQ, unselfish, good shooter. He would find a role here and fit in, although he would be severely underutilized, on the assumption Love would start over him. I think Ehlo is actually a darkhorse candidate. Can play 2 or 3. Very crafty, smart player, solid defender, plus rebounder, good passer, clutch player, excellent long range shooter (poor FT shooter). Ehlo is one of my all-time favorites and would fill a need on this team. Not a huge need at this point unless Jefferson is washed up (which is conceivable). I just think he is the sort of guy who would accept a bench role for this team and thrive. I just don't see the fit of Price playing alongside Irving. And Daugherty, while maybe it would work, would require more work to integrate into the team. Plus his defense was adequate at best. Just not convinced him taking minutes from Mozgov would be a good thing. Maybe that's wrong though. I would take Ehlo over Person -- based on what this team needs -- and I think Daugherly over Ilgauskas, though I could probably be convinced otherwise on that.
罗恩-哈珀在我心里有特殊的位置 - 我永远不会对他被交易感到释怀 - 但是,鉴于他缺乏射程,他可能不是很好的人选。
在南斯和飞车手罗德之间选择很难。南斯很明显是更好的球员,但我能看到关于飞车手罗德有能力打中锋的观点是个加分项。南斯在骑士的时期,他大多打3号位置,所以这是更倾向他的地方。
我认为南斯是个大卫-格里芬风格的球员。有很高的篮球智商,无私,不错的射手。他可以在这找到自己的定位,并融入其中,尽管他最终会被大材小用,假设乐福会代替他先发。
我认为埃卢会是个黑马般的候选。他能打2,3号位。非常的灵巧,聪明的球员,还是个稳定的防守者,加上他篮板也不错,传球也好,能打关键球,优良的长距离射手(罚球很烂). 埃卢是我最喜欢的选择之一,他可以满足这只球队的需求。虽然球队在这点上没有庞大的需求,除非杰弗森顶了上来(这是可以想象到的). 我认为他是可以接受替补角色并成功的人。
我没有看到普莱斯搭配欧文的适用性。还有多尔蒂。也许这种选他有效,但是需要球队更多的努力去磨合。尽管他的防守足够的好,但这不能说服让他顶替墨子的上场时间是件好事。或者这就是个错误的想法。
鉴于球队的需求,我会选埃卢多于帕特森 - 还有我选多尔蒂多于大Z, 虽然这个反着来我也能接受。
9/17/2015 TyGuy:
Larry Nance isn't playing small forward in this era of NBA. Back in the 80's and 90's teams got away with playing power forwards at small forward because of the rule differences and less emphasis on perimeter play and shooting. You're much more likely to see him move up a position to center as that is the way things have evolved. There aren't going to be many people in this NBA that would abuse him at center so his quickness and athletic advantage would be significant and you want him closer to the hoop on defense to block shots. I think you could play Tristan and Nance together for spells because Nance does at least have a mid range shot. You would have a lot of athleticism at 4 and 5 with those two out there.
拉里-南斯在这个时代的NBA里可打不了小前锋。 回溯到80年代和90年代,球队可以找到让大前锋打小前锋的方法,因为规则不同,那时候没那么强调外线能力还有射程。 你将会看到他更多的被上摆到中锋的位置,这就是事情的发展方式。 现在的NBA里可没有太多人能在中锋位置上虐他,所以他的速度和运动能力将会有极大的优势,你希望他更靠近篮筐防守去盖掉那些投篮。
我想你可以让汤普森和南斯搭配出场,因为南斯至少有一手中投。 有这两在场上,你将在4和5号位上有强大的运动能力。
9/18/2015 The Human Q-Tip:
I think you're wrong about Nance not being able to play the 3 today- at least when he first came to Cleveland and was younger. He was a slim guy - playing weight under 220 for much of his career. And he was very athletic, winning the first ever slam dunk competition. He was only 28 when he came to the Cavs, and here are his per 36 that first season: ,539 FG%, 80% FT%, 8.3 boards, 2.9 blocks, 17.9 ppg. And a very smart player. Let TT back up Moz, and have Nance backup Love and LBJ. Nance in a modern day small ball lineup would be absolutely devastating because of his length and rim protecting abilities that most small ball lineups lack. Not sure if it is still true, but when he retired, he was the best shot-blocking forward ever .
我认为你关于南斯在今天不能打3号位是错的 - 至少他第一次来骑士时还很年轻。 他很苗条 - 职业生涯大部分时间轻于220磅。 还有他非常有运动能力,赢下了首个扣篮大赛冠军。
他来骑士时才28岁,看看他第一个赛季的36分钟数据: 53.9%命中率, 80%罚球命中率, 8.3板,2.9盖帽, 17.9效率值。 而且还是个很聪明的球员
让TT作为墨子的替补,然后让南斯作为乐福和詹姆斯的替补。 南斯在现今的小球阵容里绝对是毁灭性的,因为他有绝大多小球阵容所欠缺的高度和护框能力。不确定我说的是否还对,但是当他退役时,他是前锋里最好的封盖手。
9/19/2015 iamacavalier:
As i was to young to watch harper, price, nance and the others I don't feel justified in choosing one. . But I will have to go with Ben Wallace... One of my many unexplainable favorite cavs. I was so excited bring him here. And he would fit well with this team. The only guy that I have seen that made lebron look scrawny. Let the first who doesn't have a random favorite cav throw the first stone.
鉴于我看哈珀,普莱斯,南斯还有其他人打球时还太年轻,我不认为自己能选出正确的人选... 但是我会选择本-华莱士... 一个我众多不能解释的最喜欢骑士球员之一。 我很激动能把他加入球队。 他能很好的补充这只球队。他是唯一一个能让我觉得詹姆斯瘦骨如柴的人。就让我这个没有特别偏爱的骑密来扔出这个骰子吧。。
9/21/2015 Captain S:
Anthony Bennett.
安东尼-本内特
9/22/2015 enigmatic:
If we're talking about a guy to stick in as a rotation player Hot Rod Williams would be nice coming off the bench; if it's a starter probably Ehlo in place of Shump. If we're getting crazy, Mike Mitchell would be a monster on this roster w/ LeBron and Kyrie feeding him the ball.
如果我们谈论的是让一个球员填补替补阵容的话,快车手罗德威廉姆斯是一个很好的选择。 如果是选择首发的话,埃卢可以拿来填补香波特的位置。
如果我们脑洞大开的话,麦克-米切尔或许可以在詹姆斯和欧文的喂球下变成一个野兽。